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bryanrabalais
Reg. Oct 2014
Posted 2015-03-30 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale


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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.

I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
Β Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?

ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.Β  Not what I expected to see.Β 

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She told you already.


Going big time



and ftr, I sort of agree with her.


She kinda smart. She got some skillz.
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-03-30 9:19 PM
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I've thought about sending one through BFA, Texas Best or Heritage. But I think I make more on weanlings. I'm in TX. Ideal market. I sold mine to Canada. If they are desirable enough they will sell. The other interested people were in AZ and MT. It was the pics and pedigree that got people to call me, not the location. There are horses who have local appeal and those that have national. Breed the national ones.
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BMW
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-03-30 10:18 PM
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Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-03-30 10:31 PM
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BMW - 2015-03-30 10:18 PM

Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?

Depending on the stallion I can go either way. These particular foals I have targeted more for barrels and race people won't like them as much. In the future I am going to stick with racing lines that can go either way (Ivory James, tres seis, Stoli, etc). The only thing I know will hinder race foals is my location, I am going to have to breed earlier in the year then I would like or risk having foals later and not as developed.

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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-03-30 10:45 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.



I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
 Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?



ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.  Not what I expected to see. 


 
She told you already. Going big time and ftr, I sort of agree with her.
She kinda smart. She got some skillz.

Yes...Going Big Time is my main hold back. But I don't think BBR is put on by them, so I'll have to look more in to that one.
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-03-30 10:47 PM
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A friend of mine really wanted me to try the Triangle sale coming up in May. I just don't know that that's the right sale to bring the big buyers. Anyone have any input on that one? 
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-03-30 11:14 PM
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oija - 2015-03-30 9:19 PM

I've thought about sending one through BFA, Texas Best or Heritage. But I think I make more on weanlings. I'm in TX. Ideal market. I sold mine to Canada. If they are desirable enough they will sell. The other interested people were in AZ and MT. It was the pics and pedigree that got people to call me, not the location. There are horses who have local appeal and those that have national. Breed the national ones.

I understand this as well; but from my friends and my personal experiences I find a person is more likely to bring one up into Canada then down into the US. People down there have a mentality that they can find something like that closer to them, and in all honesty there is the selection down there to possibly do so. I find mine from far away places regularly but also pay a good chunk bringing them home. I also have had people tell me they want nothing to do with the border, and think it's a lot of work and additional $$ to get them across (and depending on the prices it can be). I've done it several times and don't find it difficult, but it's the general thought process from people I talk too.


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BMW
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-03-30 11:39 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 10:47 PM

A friend of mine really wanted me to try the Triangle sale coming up in May. I just don't know that that's the right sale to bring the big buyers. Anyone have any input on that one?Β 

Judging by past catalogs, Triangle Sales attracts more cutters than anything else. They sell other modalities, but are top heavy on cutting breds.
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BMW
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-03-30 11:43 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.



I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
Β Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?



ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.Β  Not what I expected to see.Β 


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She told you already. Going big time and ftr, I sort of agree with her.
She kinda smart. She got some skillz.

Yes...Going Big Time is my main hold back. But I don't think BBR is put on by them, so I'll have to look more in to that one.

GoingBigTimes runs the BFA, Lance Graves and BBR Sales.
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BMW
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-03-30 11:48 PM
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BMW - 2015-03-30 10:18 PM

Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?

Depending on the stallion I can go either way. These particular foals I have targeted more for barrels and race people won't like them as much. In the future I am going to stick with racing lines that can go either way (Ivory James, tres seis, Stoli, etc). The only thing I know will hinder race foals is my location, I am going to have to breed earlier in the year then I would like or risk having foals later and not as developed.

Heritage Place has several sales in OKC through out the year. More and more barrel horse people are attending them looking for prospects. There have been a few straight barrel prospects (own son of Frenchman's Guy) sold there, but I don't follow the sale to know if it would be a good sale for a barrel bred horse.
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Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-03-31 1:40 AM
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Bred heifers are selling good now too. Market is really going up on calves next year. definitely a win win and no gamble. that's where i'd put my money...................
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-03-31 5:32 AM
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BMW - 2015-03-30 11:48 PM

ndiehl - 2015-03-30 10:31 PM

BMW - 2015-03-30 10:18 PM

Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?

Depending on the stallion I can go either way. These particular foals I have targeted more for barrels and race people won't like them as much. In the future I am going to stick with racing lines that can go either way (Ivory James, tres seis, Stoli, etc). The only thing I know will hinder race foals is my location, I am going to have to breed earlier in the year then I would like or risk having foals later and not as developed.

Heritage Place has several sales in OKC through out the year. More and more barrel horse people are attending them looking for prospects. There have been a few straight barrel prospects (own son of Frenchman's Guy) sold there, but I don't follow the sale to know if it would be a good sale for a barrel bred horse.

I was going to say Heritage Place too.
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abrooks
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2015-03-31 6:29 AM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 10:47 PM

A friend of mine really wanted me to try the Triangle sale coming up in May. I just don't know that that's the right sale to bring the big buyers. Anyone have any input on that one?Β 

We haven't been in years bc of the shift to cutters/cowbred buyers there. ItS probably been 15 years since we have gone to sell or buy anything there. Honestly we picked up some deals there and paid high for others. I haven't looked at the sale results catalog in forever.

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kuhlmann
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2015-03-31 8:41 AM
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If you have a true cross over baby with a solid to good catalog page, I'd put it in a Heritage mixed sale. Don't try to compete with the yearlings, that is a no win situation.

If you have mediocre to solid catalog pages I'd aim for a barrel sale. My personal preference is Texas Best but that is just because I'm comfortable there. I have a yearling that will be in it if I don't sell her first.

I have a 2015 colt that will go to Heritage at a fall or winter sale. He has a good female family (who also happens to have fashionable lines) and a well received sire. He has a legitimate shot at being a stakes horse and an arena star. He also has stallion potential.

You want to make sure your horse is going to get attention and that the money to go with that attention is there. Money might show up at every sale, you just have to know which money.Β 


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dhanover
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-03-31 7:45 PM
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 One thing about the Texas Best Sale is no other sale advertises your sale horses like the Texas Best Sale.  Your sale horses will be in a great central location.  Consignors are  treated well & the sale team is there to help.   Consignors & buyers are treated with a appreciation dinner.  The sale office is open @ 9am-5pm. Wednesday thru Sunday & on sale day the office opens @ 8am..  Have a veterinarian on the sale premise.  

Heritage Sale:  Consignment fee:  $600
Texas Best Sale:  Consignment fee:  $400  Commission: 7%  PO 5%

We will strive to be of assistance to consignors & buyers from the day you consign your horse....no matter how your horse is bred.  We will work to sell your horse.

 
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dhanover
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-03-31 7:53 PM
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA

 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.
 
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Posted 2015-04-01 4:50 AM
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dhanover - 2015-03-31 7:45 PM  One thing about the Texas Best Sale is no other sale advertises your sale horses like the Texas Best Sale.  Your sale horses will be in a great central location.  Consignors are  treated well & the sale team is there to help.   Consignors & buyers are treated with a appreciation dinner.  The sale office is open @ 9am-5pm. Wednesday thru Sunday & on sale day the office opens @ 8am..  Have a veterinarian on the sale premise.  



Heritage Sale:  Consignment fee:  $600

Texas Best Sale:  Consignment fee:  $400  Commission: 7%  PO 5%



We will strive to be of assistance to consignors & buyers from the day you consign your horse....no matter how your horse is bred.  We will work to sell your horse.


 

When is the Texas Best Sale? Are the horses that pass through the ring eligible for any incentives or races?
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dhanover
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-04-01 6:20 AM
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dhanover - 2015-03-31 7:45 PM  One thing about the Texas Best Sale is no other sale advertises your sale horses like the Texas Best Sale.  Your sale horses will be in a great central location.  Consignors are  treated well & the sale team is there to help.   Consignors & buyers are treated with a appreciation dinner.  The sale office is open @ 9am-5pm. Wednesday thru Sunday & on sale day the office opens @ 8am..  Have a veterinarian on the sale premise.  



Heritage Sale:  Consignment fee:  $600

Texas Best Sale:  Consignment fee:  $400  Commission: 7%  PO 5%



We will strive to be of assistance to consignors & buyers from the day you consign your horse....no matter how your horse is bred.  We will work to sell your horse.


 
When is the Texas Best Sale? Are the horses that pass through the ring eligible for any incentives or races?

 November 13th @ 7:30.....it is held in conjunction with the Elite Extravaganza & JBQH Futurity.

Please private  message me for more info.....I don't want to break rules.....which I think I may already have.  :(  or check it out on FB.  :)

 
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Posted 2015-04-01 6:25 AM
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dhanover - 2015-04-01 6:20 AM
LRQHS - 2015-04-01 4:50 AM
dhanover - 2015-03-31 7:45 PM  One thing about the Texas Best Sale is no other sale advertises your sale horses like the Texas Best Sale.  Your sale horses will be in a great central location.  Consignors are  treated well & the sale team is there to help.   Consignors & buyers are treated with a appreciation dinner.  The sale office is open @ 9am-5pm. Wednesday thru Sunday & on sale day the office opens @ 8am..  Have a veterinarian on the sale premise.  



Heritage Sale:  Consignment fee:  $600

Texas Best Sale:  Consignment fee:  $400  Commission: 7%  PO 5%



We will strive to be of assistance to consignors & buyers from the day you consign your horse....no matter how your horse is bred.  We will work to sell your horse.


 
When is the Texas Best Sale? Are the horses that pass through the ring eligible for any incentives or races?
 November 13th @ 7:30.....it is held in conjunction with the Elite Extravaganza & JBQH Futurity.



Please private  message me for more info.....I don't want to break rules.....which I think I may already have.  :(  or check it out on FB.  :)


 

Ok. I found it on FB. Thanks for the info. I'll look at it :
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-04-01 10:25 AM
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA

Β Long yearlings sell very well in November. Β So do 3yo's.
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Thank you, I was leaning at selling them as long yearlings. I can't take the chance of weanlings not showing well. I know a lot of people like to train them their way too.
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