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| teebluesage - 2015-04-10 1:54 PM
You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves.
Been there and it was scary how they scream and yell and carry on. No wonder people get scared and run. I am not defending the suspects who attack first or act like they have a weapon, but it's not always the suspect's fault. Sometimes the cops act like little scared, tempermental children. | |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this. | |
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       Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this.
I think it's because it's been so long since we've seen something of that level, or at least I have any way. What I find interesting though is the two sides of the fence - those that think because it's a thug it's always automatically open season & ok to gang punch someone 37 times vs those that think there's a line that you don't cross if you're a police officer. | |
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| Fairweather - 2015-04-10 4:29 PM komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this. I think it's because it's been so long since we've seen something of that level, or at least I have any way. What I find interesting though is the two sides of the fence - those that think because it's a thug it's always automatically open season & ok to gang punch someone 37 times vs those that think there's a line that you don't cross if you're a police officer.
And there are those that are arguing both sides for the sake of conversation. | |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Whiteboy - 2015-04-10 4:35 PM
Fairweather - 2015-04-10 4:29 PM komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this. I think it's because it's been so long since we've seen something of that level, or at least I have any way. What I find interesting though is the two sides of the fence - those that think because it's a thug it's always automatically open season & ok to gang punch someone 37 times vs those that think there's a line that you don't cross if you're a police officer.Β
And there are those that are arguing both sides for the sake of conversation.Β Β
It depends on who you are. As a horse person, cop or not I'd have been first in line to start beating on this fella. But.... Someone said horse thieves used to be hanged for this crime... but even then the cops were not allowed to do this to you while being arrested. | |
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         Location: So. California | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 11:11 AM MS2011 - 2015-04-10 11:00 AM Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker! As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught. Kinda my thoughts.... You could take my truck, trailer, saddle, pretty much anything out of my house, but if you mess with my dogs or horses, you will need the police to come save you.
Anyone know what he did during the chase? How long had they been chasing him?
HERE Are THE FACTS, CUT AND PASTED FROM NEWS REPORT In San Bernadino County on Thursday, sheriff’s deputies were reportedly serving a search warrant on Pusok in connection with an investigation into alleged identity theft. He allegedly fled in a car, which he then abandoned. Pusok is alleged to have stolen a horse after encountering a group of riders on the edge of the Mojave desert, and to have then led officers on a hazardous chase through the rough landscape, during which the horse was reportedly injured.
That is what the media is reporting, unfortunately, not necessary ALL the facts as they are getting their information from LEO. The video being shown was shot and streamed live from a media helicoptor and allegedly shows the criminal being "...kicked 17 times, punched 37 times and hit with a baton four times.."
I agree he should have been given a good a$$-whooping somewhere along the way, just NOT at the hands of LEO AFTER he had surrendered. Another multi-million $ civil lawsuit that the public has to pay for... 
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this.
I certainly do NOT agree with the actions of these idiots in the video called “cops”……. They are thugs with badges. That being said, I find it reprehensible to blame ALL police officers for the “bad deeds” of those who beat Rodney King in 1991 or have been involved in any “bad acts” that have happened recently. Since 1991, 3800 police officers have been killed in the line of duty….HOW MANY good officers have been beaten or shot by “perps”? HOW MANY of the hundreds of thousands of DECENT officers get recognized for their “good deeds”? | |
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     Location: Texas | GLP - 2015-04-10 4:13 PM teebluesage - 2015-04-10 1:54 PM You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves. Been there and it was scary how they scream and yell and carry on. No wonder people get scared and run. I am not defending the suspects who attack first or act like they have a weapon, but it's not always the suspect's fault. Sometimes the cops act like little scared, tempermental children.
My husband had a sports car in high school. He swears to this day he wasn't racing. Anyway he got pulled over by an unmarked police car. He was getting his ID out and what not and looked up when the cop got to the window and the cop has his gun drawn and pointed straight at him. He was yelling about get your hands up, take the keys out of the ignition etc. My husband has never been in trouble with the law other then traffic violations when he was younger (go figure). Of course he was scared. The cop treated him like crap, yelled at him etc. Then let him go with a warning. It is crazy to me how much the cop escalated something so simple. I can also see how things can get out of hand when the cop is already on the defensive, add someone else that wants to fight, run, argue or whatever and I think that is how we get so many crazy stories.
By the way I am not anti-cop, and neither is my husband. I am sure though there are some instances where the cop kind of starts the whole thing out on the wrong foot. | |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-04-10 4:45 PM
komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this.
I certainly do NOT agree with the actions of these idiots in the video called βcopsββ¦β¦. They are thugs with badges. Β That being said, I find it reprehensible to blame ALL police officers for the βbad deedsβ of those who beat Rodney King in 1991 or have been involved in any βbad actsβ that have happened recently. Since 1991, 3800 police officers have been killed in the line of dutyβ¦.HOW MANY good officers have been beaten or shot by βperpsβ? HOW MANY of the hundreds of thousands of DECENT officers get recognized for their βgood deedsβ?
I don't AGREE with it either.... and I never said ALL cops are bad... but I DO understand why some of them think they can get away with this sort of behavior.. Lets face it. It's been happening all along the timeline, it just never made it into the news before people could record it as easily as they can today. Everybody and their dog has a cell phone today and most of them can record videos. | |
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     Location: Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM Whiteboy - 2015-04-10 9:49 AM If I fell off my horse, I'm pretty sure none of them would just stand there. lol The guy deserved it. If you dont want an ass whoopin, dont steal **** and try to run away. If his mother had done more of it when he was young he would have learned his lesson then. Thank goodness someone else in this world sees it like I do. I don't care what color you are, you BROKE THE LAW, FLED FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, if you get your butt whipped, it was your choice. Same goes for all this prison inmate rights junk, if you hadnt broke the law you wouldnt have to worry about it.. We have more people incarcerated in the USA than any other country in the world and we pay, on average, $40,000 PER INMATE of tax payer money to take care of them. DO we have more criminals than other countries? NO. Breaking the law in this country entitles you free food, free rent, in some cases free education etc. In some other countries in the world if your in prison and you need food, family has to bring it or you don't get any. I agree 100%!
Our judicial system sucks! He would have gotten a slap on the hand and not had any consequences.
ETA: Folks use to get hung for stealing horses and cattle, it's a shame that doesn't happen anymore.
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| They just reported on the news here locally that the suspect shot his child's puppy just before he fled. The suspect was already on probation for other crimes and was suspected of being armed. | |
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     Location: Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 5:42 PM They just reported on the news here locally that the suspect shot his child's puppy just before he fled. The suspect was already on probation for other crimes and was suspected of being armed.
Makes me even happier that he got his butt whooped. If he would have stole my horse, he would have gotten shot. End of story. | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 5:42 PM They just reported on the news here locally that the suspect shot his child's puppy just before he fled. The suspect was already on probation for other crimes and was suspected of being armed.
Wow he shot his own kids puppy, I hope that the child did not see this. So he was armed when he was running? What a sorry punk, so sad for his child  | |
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     Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Clearly need more training in the police department and psychiatric daily evaluation.This is equal to beating a dog till he bleeds while on a chain. Same mentality. | |
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| It amazes me how today people are taking sides of the criminals. For example Michael Brown, this guy who we speak of, etc. Are we forgetting cause and effect? Don't break the law. If you don't do that one simple thing none of this would happen. The cops are getting such a bad rap from the media and I am surprised most of them have not thrown up their hands and said FINE YOU DEAL WITH IT!! I think that is why shooting and other crimes are getting so out of hand, because people can plead insanity or other things to get their way out of it. How do any of you not know what led up to the cops frustration? You can bad talk cops all you want, but every single time I see something like this. I think you made that choice to run, break the law, commit a crime etc. You deserve what you get. Everything that happens to you when you make that choice is your own freakin fault! Our country is sadly turning into a bunch of wusses because nobody is held accountable anymore.
P.S. They school is system is the same way. I am surprised anyone wants to be teachers anymore. | |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 6:19 PM
It amazes me how today people are taking sides of the criminals. For example Michael Brown, this guy who we speak of, etc. Are we forgetting cause and effect? Don't break the law. If you don't do that one simple thing none of this would happen. The cops are getting such a bad rap from the media and I am surprised most of them have not thrown up their hands and said FINE YOU DEAL WITH IT!! I think that is why shooting and other crimes are getting so out of hand, because people can plead insanity or other things to get their way out of it. How do any of you not know what led up to the cops frustration? You can bad talk cops all you want, but every single time I see something like this. I think you made that choice to run, break the law, commit a crime etc. You deserve what you get. Everything that happens to you when you make that choice is your own freakin fault! Our country is sadly turning into a bunch of wusses because nobody is held accountable anymore.
P.S. They school is system is the same way. I am surprised anyone wants to be teachers anymore.
The sad fact that you can't seem to understand is, you don't HAVE to break the law to be abused by police today.
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| I realize there are bad cases. It sucks. I was referring to this case and ONLY cases where people break the law and everyone stands up for the criminal as a victim. As in this one. Who this man apparently shot his kids dog, ran from the cops, and stole someones animal/family to save his own self whom in the end injured as well.
My brother got a crappy end of the deal with a cop one time as well. But it doesnt make me hate cops because when there is someone in my home threatening my family. I will be calling them, so I support them. | |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 6:37 PM
I realize there are bad cases. It sucks. I was referring to this case and ONLY cases where people break the law and everyone stands up for the criminal as a victim. As in this one. Who this man apparently shot his kids dog, ran from the cops, and stole someones animal/family to save his own self whom in the end injured as well.
My brother got a crappy end of the deal with a cop one time as well. But it doesnt make me hate cops because when there is someone in my home threatening my family. I will be calling them, so I support them.
No matter what this man did. He had surrendered and was spread eagle on the ground when they attacked him... This is just as wrong as what happened in SC the other day when a cop decided he was judge, jury and executioner. The penalty for failure to pay child support is not death or to be beaten half to death.
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