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        Location: USA | TXBO - 2015-04-14 11:53 AM Scripture does not call for women to be weak. It's calling for men to be strong. It also gives men the responsibility of loving his wife as Jesus loved the church. That's calling for a pretty high bar.
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     Location: Texas | Let me say that I am no theologian, not a Bible scholar, not a preacher, just a plain old gal that has a heart for the Lord. God has taught me so much about who He is just through "feel". I've read my Bible over the years and every time I read it I learn something new - about me and my walk. I don't care what the rest of the world does or how they perceive the words written in scripture - that is between them and God. The Holy Spirit will answer our questions for us, He will show us the pathway to knowledge if we will open our hearts and minds to hear His words. It doesn't matter to me how smart or well versed someone might be in regards to theology. I want to see character, I want to see their Light shine. That is what truly matters to God. Anyone can know scripture... The devil himself quoted scripture to Jesus "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
We need to study to show ourselves approved, we need to diligently SEEK God's face and we need to keep an open heart and listen for the voice of the Lord to speak to us in the Spirit. There was a time when I thought that people who think like I think now were looney tunes, lol. But God has done a work in me that I didn't even see Him doing. It has taken years for me to get to where I am today, and I have by no means reached the place where I need to be, but I'm sure not stuck in the same place I was yesterday. I am excited to be on this journey and I can't wait to see what happens next! Run your own race, be blessed and go be someone's blessing!
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   Location: Kansas and loving it | My favorite. 2 Corinthians chapter 12 verse 9 and 10. My Grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness. Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so Christ's power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, and in insults, hardship, persecutions, in difficulty. For when I am weak, then I am strong. | |
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | Β I know you asked for the opinion of women so I hope you don't mind. I am traveling today so doing this on a phone is harder.First of all the death of the first born was symbolic and it was under the law of Moses a lower law. Little children are alive in Christ. Baptism is performed on those those that are accountable and capable of committing sin and the baptism is symbolic to wash away sin. Babies are sinless and if God allows their death they are saved no matter what because they have not sinned. Our earth life is a testing process for us to show our faith and willingness to believe and follow the laws of God. Our earth life is preparation time to meet Good. Those children they were killed were because the parents did not have faith to put the symbolic blood of the Savior above the door. Those children that died were alive in Christ. Their probation time on earth was short.Women in the church. Man and women are equals in the sight of God. They compliment each other.However God's house is a house of order. God has allowed only worthy men tobe allowed to hold the Priesthood power of God. It was his decision and their must be a reason why. Does this make it that God looks down on females I say no. God has establish different rolls for men and women in the church. Is a woman's voice just as important as a man's heck yes. Women may be even closer to God spirituality because they seem to be more humble and receptive to the spirit. Women are a huge part of God's gospel plan. Sorry I don't have access to the new testament to back up my opinions because I am on my phone and waiting for a flight.If any man or preacher says a woman is less than a man. They are false and don't understand how God delegates. | |
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       Location: Montana | americanpride08 - 2015-04-14 11:57 AM What are some of the versus that you use for guidance in your dark moments, moments of doubt? I'm not as knowledgable yet to know any by heart.
Quite often it depends on the dark times I am going through. A lot of people, myself included, get comfort from Psalm 23, I'm sure that is why it is so popular. I also get quite a lot of comfort from some of Paul's writings...another favorite of mine is 1st Corinthians 13, but that has more to do with love. Romans 5:1-11 I enjoy as it talks abuot faith. One of my most favorite verses in the Bible is Hebrews 11:1, it has carried me through quite a few things. Also, Psalm 91 is very uplifting, for me. Those are just a few. As I think of them I'll try to add them. :) | |
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | Β I wouldn't be so quick to discard Paul's writting. They are there for a spiritual reason. If you believe in Revelation, Paul wrote by the power of the Holy Ghost. To understand his writings a person needs to study, pray, cross reference his writtings, and pray asking God that the power of the Holy Ghost may be given to you to understand Paul's writtings. The job so to speak of the Holy Ghost is to bare truth of God. Truth is important. Each person can have personal revelations from God to have a witness of truth by the Holy Ghost. Then meditating the subjects and praying for understanding and studying by preparing yourself spiritually being in tune with God so you can hear the still small whispering of the Holy Ghost bearing truth to you. | |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | Douglas J Gordon - 2015-04-14 3:52 PM I wouldn't be so quick to discard Paul's writting. They are there for a spiritual reason. If you believe in Revelation, Paul wrote by the power of the Holy Ghost. To understand his writings a person needs to study, pray, cross reference his writtings, and pray asking God that the power of the Holy Ghost may be given to you to understand Paul's writtings. The job so to speak of the Holy Ghost is to bare truth of God. Truth is important. Each person can have personal revelations from God to have a witness of truth by the Holy Ghost. Then meditating the subjects and praying for understanding and studying by preparing yourself spiritually being in tune with God so you can hear the still small whispering of the Holy Ghost bearing truth to you.
It isn't all the Holy Spirit. You have to separate the Holy Spirit from Paul's ego, which a pretty darn powerful one. Catholic priests live as virgins because of 1 Corinthians 7. It has caused a lot of issues like the pedophilia present there. Again, the bible was written BY THE HANDS OF FALLIBLE MEN, Paul among them.
1 Corinthians 7
Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. 8Now to the unmarrieda and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. 12To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? Concerning Change of Status 17Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 18Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 19Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. 20Each person should remain in the situation they were in when God called them. 21Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 24Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them. Concerning the Unmarried 25Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. 26Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for a man to remain as he is. 27Are you pledged to a woman? Do not seek to be released. Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife. 28But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this. 29What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not; 30those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; 31those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away. 32I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord. 36If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strongb and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married. 37But the man who has settled the matter in his own mind, who is under no compulsion but has control over his own will, and who has made up his mind not to marry the virgin—this man also does the right thing. 38So then, he who marries the virgin does right, but he who does not marry her does better.c 39A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. 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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | oija - 2015-04-14 4:29 PM Douglas J Gordon - 2015-04-14 3:52 PM I wouldn't be so quick to discard Paul's writting. They are there for a spiritual reason. If you believe in Revelation, Paul wrote by the power of the Holy Ghost. To understand his writings a person needs to study, pray, cross reference his writtings, and pray asking God that the power of the Holy Ghost may be given to you to understand Paul's writtings. The job so to speak of the Holy Ghost is to bare truth of God. Truth is important. Each person can have personal revelations from God to have a witness of truth by the Holy Ghost. Then meditating the subjects and praying for understanding and studying by preparing yourself spiritually being in tune with God so you can hear the still small whispering of the Holy Ghost bearing truth to you. It isn't all the Holy Spirit. You have to separate the Holy Spirit from Paul's ego, which a pretty darn powerful one. Catholic priests live as virgins because of 1 Corinthians 7. It has caused a lot of issues like the pedophilia present there. Again, the bible was written BY THE HANDS OF FALLIBLE MEN, Paul among them.
And that right there is a big reason why I think Paul needed therapy. Dude was warped. And caused so much harm. Most of what people use in defense of hating on groups of people came from his writings, not what Jesus said. I have heard people say that if the Bible isn't 100% accurate, then their Faith is a lie, so they cannot accept that possiblity. But that is soooo not true. God is so much more than words in a book cobbled together and edited by men over the centuries. Jesus lived and died and rose for us whether the church stayed true to his message or not. Believing that, knowing that in your heart, THAT is Faith.
I don't discount the Bible at all. It's a wonderous book filled with God's love and lessons, and the good news about Jesus. I just don't believe the entire thing is the infallible Word of God--too many changes made by men by design and on accident. | |
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       Location: Montana | Douglas J Gordon - 2015-04-14 2:52 PM I wouldn't be so quick to discard Paul's writting. They are there for a spiritual reason. If you believe in Revelation, Paul wrote by the power of the Holy Ghost. To understand his writings a person needs to study, pray, cross reference his writtings, and pray asking God that the power of the Holy Ghost may be given to you to understand Paul's writtings. The job so to speak of the Holy Ghost is to bare truth of God. Truth is important. Each person can have personal revelations from God to have a witness of truth by the Holy Ghost. Then meditating the subjects and praying for understanding and studying by preparing yourself spiritually being in tune with God so you can hear the still small whispering of the Holy Ghost bearing truth to you.
I'm a little confused, are you talking about revelation or the book of Revelation, because the book of Revalation was written by the Apostle John while on the island of Patmos.  | |
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Come on guys, let's put aside egos and remember what this post is about. If you want to hold a theological debate, maybe do it at a different place. Everyone is at a different place in their journey, and believe it or not... but your view may one day change. In the interim isn't the whole thing about helping people to find salvation and letting the Holy Spirit do His job. Young Christians can be totally turned off when "mature" Christians debate theology. It's baby food right now. :)
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | mtcanchazer - 2015-04-14 5:18 PM
Douglas J Gordon - 2015-04-14 2:52 PM Β I wouldn't be so quick to discard Paul's writting. They are there for a spiritual reason. If you believe in Revelation, Paul wrote by the power of the Holy Ghost. To understand his writings a person needs to study, pray, cross reference his writtings, and pray asking God that the power of the Holy Ghost may be given to you to understand Paul's writtings. The job so to speak of the Holy Ghost is to bare truth of God. Truth is important. Each person can have personal revelations from God to have a witness of truth by the Holy Ghost. Then meditating the subjects and praying for understanding and studying by preparing yourself spiritually being in tune with God so you can hear the still small whispering of the Holy Ghost bearing truth to you.
Β I'm a little confused, are you talking about revelation or the book of Revelation, because the book of Revalation was written by the Apostle John while on the island of Patmos.Β 
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | grinandbareit - 2015-04-14 5:40 PM
Come on guys, let's put aside egos and remember what this post is about. If you want to hold a theological debate, maybe do it at a different place. Everyone is at a different place in their journey, and believe it or not... but your view may one day change. In the interim isn't the whole thing about helping people to find salvation and letting the Holy Spirit do His job. Young Christians can be totally turned off when "mature" Christians debate theology. It's baby food right now. :)
I agree with you and yet . . . Somewhat not. Many young Christians need just the basics. But as a young Christian it can be hard to reconcile our views of a loving God with the angry one of the Old Testament which is what the OP was originally worried about. Just as many young Christians can be driven out because they become disillusioned at the seeming contradictions and what may seem like a lack of satisfactory answers. How can a loving God be so cruel? And saying well it's God and you'll just never get it may not be enough. Many people struggle with their faith and sometimes the answer is prayer but sometimes the answer is study, both can result in a more mature believer. Paul is another point which people who struggle with their faith can get stuck on. If they come to understand that a belief in Christ does not necessitate a belief in all of Paul's doctrines then they may have get over some of their struggles with faith and see Paul as a guide but maybe not the be all end all for a practical Christian life. Dealing with both types of struggles with faith, the emotional (through prayer) and the logical (through study and yes some theology) may help resolve some of those faith struggles. It's not all about ego. It is an honest attempt to help the OP on both sides of that struggle. It helps create a better reader of the bible and thus someone who may be more comfortable in their faith. | |
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11 My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of his correction:
12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
13 Happy is the man that findeteh wisdeom, and that eman that getteth understanding.
I also have been reading the book of Luke and agree with a previous post on this being a beautiful book on Jesus as a person. I love the story that begins in Luke 7:37 and talks about a woman who came to Jesus that was a 'sinner' and Jesus was questioned in helping her and he tells a parable about a person that owes 550 pence, and another that owes 50 pence then asked the question if the creditor forgives both the loans who received the most forgiveness? The answer is the person with the greater debt. I love this parable in that it just goes to show that no matter how you think you 'aren't good enough' have 'sinned too much' have done something 'terrible' all is forgiven with the Lord and he will love us unconditionally and eternally.
If you are searching I would let you heart and the Lord guide you to what you are looking for. I am having a lot of martial problems right now and am doing the same thing you are doing. Through just mild curiousity I was lead to the book of Luke and have found a lot of peace in the wisdom and level of love that is portrayed in that book.
Ultimately, I think this is a very personal journey for anyone but wish you the best of luck and hope that you are able to find what you are looking for!
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grinandbareit - 2015-04-14 5:40 PM
Come on guys, let's put aside egos and remember what this post is about. If you want to hold a theological debate, maybe do it at a different place. Everyone is at a different place in their journey, and believe it or not... but your view may one day change. In the interim isn't the whole thing about helping people to find salvation and letting the Holy Spirit do His job. Young Christians can be totally turned off when "mature" Christians debate theology. It's baby food right now. :)
I agree with you and yet . . . Somewhat not. Many young Christians need just the basics. But as a young Christian it can be hard to reconcile our views of a loving God with the angry one of the Old Testament which is what the OP was originally worried about. Just as many young Christians can be driven out because they become disillusioned at the seeming contradictions and what may seem like a lack of satisfactory answers. How can a loving God be so cruel? And saying well it's God and you'll just never get it may not be enough. Many people struggle with their faith and sometimes the answer is prayer but sometimes the answer is study, both can result in a more mature believer. Paul is another point which people who struggle with their faith can get stuck on. If they come to understand that a belief in Christ does not necessitate a belief in all of Paul's doctrines then they may have get over some of their struggles with faith and see Paul as a guide but maybe not the be all end all for a practical Christian life. Dealing with both types of struggles with faith, the emotional (through prayer ) and the logical (through study and yes some theology ) may help resolve some of those faith struggles. It's not all about ego. It is an honest attempt to help the OP on both sides of that struggle. It helps create a better reader of the bible and thus someone who may be more comfortable in their faith.
Agreed! My concern is that we are all giving our "opinion" on the meaning of certain scripture. What I have learned is that something that spoke to me years ago, may speak to me in a totally different way today. Some things that I have skipped over in the past - JUMP out at me now. It is confusing to a young Christian or those seeking the truth to hear debate between teachers.
To the OP... You will hear so many different takes on scripture. The answers you seek are already in your heart. The more you read and study the Word, the more it will be revealed to you. Debating is for those who are strong in their beliefs, not those who are searching to find their truth. And trust me, their truth could change, so can yours. The important thing is to know Jesus died for YOU. Your salvation is through Him. Once you know and understand the love that God has for you, the rest will come as you grow in your relationship with him. Find a mentor to talk to, one on one. Someone you know and respect. Someone who puts God first, and let them help guide you in the right direction.
When I think back on my journey with the Lord, I now realize how truly blessed I was. I was blessed even before I knew anything about the nature of God. He watched over me and took care of me while I learned about Him. I was so undeserving of that love and protection... but now... well, I'm hoping that I can begin to catch up with my blessings. I know that it will never happen, because God's goodness far outweighs any works that I could ever do. Even so, I will continue to lift Him up to others so that they may discover the peace that comes with knowing God is on your side. :)
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grinandbareit - 2015-04-14 5:40 PM
Come on guys, let's put aside egos and remember what this post is about. If you want to hold a theological debate, maybe do it at a different place. Everyone is at a different place in their journey, and believe it or not... but your view may one day change. In the interim isn't the whole thing about helping people to find salvation and letting the Holy Spirit do His job. Young Christians can be totally turned off when "mature" Christians debate theology. It's baby food right now. :)
I agree with you and yet . . . Somewhat not. Many young Christians need just the basics. But as a young Christian it can be hard to reconcile our views of a loving God with the angry one of the Old Testament which is what the OP was originally worried about. Just as many young Christians can be driven out because they become disillusioned at the seeming contradictions and what may seem like a lack of satisfactory answers. How can a loving God be so cruel? And saying well it's God and you'll just never get it may not be enough. Many people struggle with their faith and sometimes the answer is prayer but sometimes the answer is study, both can result in a more mature believer. Paul is another point which people who struggle with their faith can get stuck on. If they come to understand that a belief in Christ does not necessitate a belief in all of Paul's doctrines then they may have get over some of their struggles with faith and see Paul as a guide but maybe not the be all end all for a practical Christian life. Dealing with both types of struggles with faith, the emotional (through prayer ) and the logical (through study and yes some theology ) may help resolve some of those faith struggles. It's not all about ego. It is an honest attempt to help the OP on both sides of that struggle. It helps create a better reader of the bible and thus someone who may be more comfortable in their faith.
Agreed! My concern is that we are all giving our "opinion" on the meaning of certain scripture. What I have learned is that something that spoke to me years ago, may speak to me in a totally different way today. Some things that I have skipped over in the past - JUMP out at me now. It is confusing to a young Christian or those seeking the truth to hear debate between teachers.
To the OP... You will hear so many different takes on scripture. The answers you seek are already in your heart. The more you read and study the Word, the more it will be revealed to you. Debating is for those who are strong in their beliefs, not those who are searching to find their truth. And trust me, their truth could change, so can yours. The important thing is to know Jesus died for YOU. Your salvation is through Him. Once you know and understand the love that God has for you, the rest will come as you grow in your relationship with him. Find a mentor to talk to, one on one. Someone you know and respect. Someone who puts God first, and let them help guide you in the right direction.
When I think back on my journey with the Lord, I now realize how truly blessed I was. I was blessed even before I knew anything about the nature of God. He watched over me and took care of me while I learned about Him. I was so undeserving of that love and protection... but now... well, I'm hoping that I can begin to catch up with my blessings. I know that it will never happen, because God's goodness far outweighs any works that I could ever do. Even so, I will continue to lift Him up to others so that they may discover the peace that comes with knowing God is on your side. : )
I understand and appreciate your perspective on the independent scriptural passages. It can come across in a multitude of ways depending on theaudience. I really appreciate your last couple paragraphs though. These words of encouragement are often helpful to many. I personally respond with relatively little emotion when I think on God or pray. BUT when I listen to certain praise songs, especially those of Don Francisco, and when I read the beautiful words in the Bible, the words of these, the study of these make my love for God overwhelm me. I hope the OP can find that some upwelling of love in her spirit. There may be one answer--Jesus. But there are many questions we can ask to find him. :) | |
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       Location: Montana | Douglas J Gordon - 2015-04-14 4:43 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-04-14 5:18 PM Douglas J Gordon - 2015-04-14 2:52 PM I wouldn't be so quick to discard Paul's writting. They are there for a spiritual reason. If you believe in Revelation, Paul wrote by the power of the Holy Ghost. To understand his writings a person needs to study, pray, cross reference his writtings, and pray asking God that the power of the Holy Ghost may be given to you to understand Paul's writtings. The job so to speak of the Holy Ghost is to bare truth of God. Truth is important. Each person can have personal revelations from God to have a witness of truth by the Holy Ghost. Then meditating the subjects and praying for understanding and studying by preparing yourself spiritually being in tune with God so you can hear the still small whispering of the Holy Ghost bearing truth to you. I'm a little confused, are you talking about revelation or the book of Revelation, because the book of Revalation was written by the Apostle John while on the island of Patmos.  I am speaking of direct revelation from God through the Holy Ghost. When a Prophet or Apostle speaks in authority from God he is speaking through inspiration from God by the power of the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost testifies of truth.
Thanks very much for the explanation! I understand the meaning of revelation, where it was capitalized it had me confused. :)
I have to agree with Grin and bare it, while I'm typing, getting too many opinions on different Bible verses is extremely confusing, especially for those who are just renewing their faith or have just started searching.
I once had a friend who was just starting to search, and I felt one of the best books of the Bible to read was the book of James for someone searching, and I still recommend it. Proverbs is a great book to read, too, for some conventional wisdom. | |
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