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Location: Texas | Roxie, You are one of the most kind people I've ever known. You send a nice package to my nephew Lincoln when he was in the hospital. You are loving, sensitive and caring, and compasionate, and because of that I know you take this very serious. The world needs more people like you.
That is a big understatement!!!
It's a shame more people don't have half the kindness, respect, morals and dignity that Roxie has.
Yes, Whiteboy, your correct we do not all have the same upbringing, values and morals, the standard we are held to is the same. The standard this vet was held to was the same as every other vet in the state of Texas. Honestly, this situation is VERY black and white. WRONG IS WRONG. She knowingly chose to be a vet and knowingly killed a domestic cat - with a bow and arrow. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | Whiteboy - 2015-04-22 3:58 PM TrailGirl - 2015-04-21 4:52 PM I haven't seen a thread yet on the Unborn Child you mentioned...My guess is most of us here would be giving our thoughts on that issue and take up probably just as many pages in debate/outrage/sympathy. One KEY difference might be that no one in that scenario sounds as though they WANT to kill the baby for sport. Its the apparent gleeful pride in the killing of the cat by the veterinarian that sets this cat story apart from your run of the mill person shooting a cat and quietly disposing of it. And this is a forum of folks that clearly care for and have compassion for animals. No surprise that this topic got our attention. This is a forum for discussion...we are discussing. Why is it that some feel the need to concern themselves with whether or not a particular topic warrants the number of pages we use to discuss it? We comment where we have an interest and feel like contributing. It's pretty simple. I'm not talking about just BHW, but rather all of social media. I have no problem with discussing...its the targeting that bothered me most I think.
How do you figure she is being targeted? She posted the photo on FB, she opened herself up to the discussion. It's not just about the cat, that is where you are off base. It's about the moral compass of an individual who took an oath to protect animals. People need to stand up with outrage over this. I'm sorry, but if she loses her license, it is a consequence of her actions. IMO she does deserve to lose her license because what she did flys in the face of her chosen profession and the oath she took to be a member of that profession. Just because she went to school does not mean she is entitled to a career. Like every professional, a career is something you build AFTER YOUR EDUCATION. The fact that she made really bad choices is going to impact her career, as it should. When the hell do you feel that people should be held accountable for their actions? If she is being tried in the court of public opinion, remember it was SHE, HERSELF, that brought the issue to the court by posting it on social media. She just didn't get the result she was looking for. |
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Location: Texas | What disconnect?!
The fact that I'm not ranting, raving and sticking my foot in my mouth, like a dumb***, because of something ONE person supposedly saw on Facebook. Have no doubt, if it is true and legitimate news outlets share the details, I will raise hell. |
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Location: North Dakota | I'm with you Whiteboy.... |
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Location: Texas | I was reading the comments on her blog a little bit ago... and Oh my goodness. Wanting her house to burn down with her and her family in it, telling her to shoot her grandpa with an arrow because he has cancer. And they call her sick in the same breath. SMH
I heard your old gramps is dead now. Died in 2013? Right? Cool. Now he can hang with Tiger in the afterlife. And watch down on you, being shamed, ridiculed and hated. You won't see gramps or tiger tho when you die, you will be meeting up with the little red man with horns. Right before he shoves an arrow up your dirty ***! Go ahead and get an arrow and be gone. No one will care. No one will miss you. No one will feel bad or have compassion. What you did - no one will care anymore if you live or die. HOW AWESOME ARE YOU NOW, ****? are you still feeling awesome. Lol?
ETA: Took out a couple of words.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I was waiting for someone to insert their relatavistic perspective into this.
Try this one on for size Whiteboy: Here some pitiful misguided practitioner of veterinary medicine has decided to do what she enjoys, namely kill things, so she gets close enough to drive an arrow through the skull of a domestic pet cat, pick it up while it's still writhing, smile, boast about it, and call out for votes to make her "vet of the year". We have the audacity to focus on this when terrorists are beheading people and burning others alive. Shame on us. There are bigger fish to fry.
You are right, Whiteboy. Shame on us for not putting this into some morally relativistic perspective. After all, she's not nearly the monster we see demonstrated by the ISIS monsters. She poses no threat to anyone......right? |
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| I agree that ISIS is a threat. This girl...probably not. But that's not really my point either.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 6:01 PM
I agree that ISIS is a threat. This girl...probably not. But that's not really my point either.
Really? What do you base that on? I see her as a potential psychopath, based on her words and actions. I think she needs serious help. This is not normal behavior that falls under the bell curve. |
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Location: SE Missouri | I tend to agree. I don't know the whole story, the dang cat could have been spraying personal items, fighting with their cats, etc. I wouldn't have done it and IF I would have I wouldn't have put it on social media at all... I think if she honestly thought it was a feral cat (which I have no idea again what the situation was) then maybe I could find some reasoning for her killing it. I see no reason for her to hold up a cat like a trophy?? It is just dumb. It's a cat for crying out loud, shoot the dang thing and move on if it's a problem.
The second part of this blows my mind. I honestly do not understand how we have moved animals higher up on priority than unborn children. I honestly can say for a large time in my life (high school and college) I never thought of how wrong it was.. My family has always been adamantly prolife but there was a part of me that just didn't even acknowledge this issue in our country. Even typing that makes me cringe but that's so wrong. Maybe b/c I'm just older now and it being a struggle to have children has shifted my mindset. I don't know this story and pointing this out just brings up how weird my mindset was. I would have been all up in arms about this not too awfully long ago but now I just think there are so many more issues we are facing I can't muster the energy to get mad about an adult tom cat getting shot by a bow b/c someone thought it was feral... |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Oh my, Whiteboy.....here you are trying to right the "moral compass" of others..........yes, we all have been raised with different morals but that was really NOT the point, that you apparently missed, of the long thread......it boiled down to the fact that she was a VET and took an oath to do no harm......If she had been "Suzie Homemaker" from down the block, she would have garnered zilch attention. Additionally, IMO, the comments here have not been out of line since several Vet colleges and Vets have posted the same things.....she should lose her license........ |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | abrooks - 2015-04-21 6:10 PM
I tend to agree. I don't know the whole story, the dang cat could have been spraying personal items, fighting with their cats, etc. I wouldn't have done it and IF I would have I wouldn't have put it on social media at all... I think if she honestly thought it was a feral cat (which I have no idea again what the situation was) then maybe I could find some reasoning for her killing it. I see no reason for her to hold up a cat like a trophy?? It is just dumb. It's a cat for crying out loud, shoot the dang thing and move on if it's a problem.
The second part of this blows my mind. I honestly do not understand how we have moved animals higher up on priority than unborn children. I honestly can say for a large time in my life (high school and college) I never thought of how wrong it was.. My family has always been adamantly prolife but there was a part of me that just didn't even acknowledge this issue in our country. Even typing that makes me cringe but that's so wrong. Maybe b/c I'm just older now and it being a struggle to have children has shifted my mindset. I don't know this story and pointing this out just brings up how weird my mindset was. I would have been all up in arms about this not too awfully long ago but now I just think there are so many more issues we are facing I can't muster the energy to get mad about an adult tom cat getting shot by a bow b/c someone thought it was feral...
How about the image of her smiling and holding up that cat exclaiming, "I love killing things!" Maybe you are right. We shouldn't worry about people who make this kind of public statement. I think maybe people are looking for drama and overreacting. After all, I'm sure we've all gone through this phase.
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Location: SE Missouri | Bear - 2015-04-21 6:15 PM
abrooks - 2015-04-21 6:10 PM
I tend to agree. I don't know the whole story, the dang cat could have been spraying personal items, fighting with their cats, etc. I wouldn't have done it and IF I would have I wouldn't have put it on social media at all... I think if she honestly thought it was a feral cat (which I have no idea again what the situation was) then maybe I could find some reasoning for her killing it. I see no reason for her to hold up a cat like a trophy?? It is just dumb. It's a cat for crying out loud, shoot the dang thing and move on if it's a problem.
The second part of this blows my mind. I honestly do not understand how we have moved animals higher up on priority than unborn children. I honestly can say for a large time in my life (high school and college) I never thought of how wrong it was.. My family has always been adamantly prolife but there was a part of me that just didn't even acknowledge this issue in our country. Even typing that makes me cringe but that's so wrong. Maybe b/c I'm just older now and it being a struggle to have children has shifted my mindset. I don't know this story and pointing this out just brings up how weird my mindset was. I would have been all up in arms about this not too awfully long ago but now I just think there are so many more issues we are facing I can't muster the energy to get mad about an adult tom cat getting shot by a bow b/c someone thought it was feral...
How about the image of her smiling and holding up that cat exclaiming, "I love killing things!" Maybe you are right. We shouldn't worry about people who make this kind of public statement. I think maybe people are looking for drama and overreacting. After all, I'm sure we've all gone through this phase.
Carry on...
I think she is an idiot for doing it. No I haven't went through this "phase" but I also have no idea what else went on to decide that 1-the cat was feral 2-causing a problem that it needed to die. Maybe you do..
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Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 6:01 PM
I agree that ISIS is a threat. This girl...probably not. But that's not really my point either.
Really? What do you base that on? I see her as a potential psychopath, based on her words and actions. I think she needs serious help. This is not normal behavior that falls under the bell curve.
I cant believe you actually feel this way, just amazing to be honest.
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| There are bigger/other issues out there, it has crossed my mind how the vet clinic and sheriff's office has been bombarded with phone calls and the aggrevation this has caused them and what other business did this take them away from. I wish child abuse would garner this much outrage (not referring to this site). That said, in general, you don't let the "little things" get a free pass- that is what could lead to "big things". I understand the outrage of her actions and her relevant posts about what she did. I don't understand the crazy threats.
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| It boiled down to THIS for me: The veterinarian invited each and every ugly comment and hate letter/fb post/email she receives. She deemed herself tough enough to take it when she chose to post her disgusting and oh so proud of herself picture. I do believe she could possibly have some mental issues as what she did was so bizarre. The pregnant girl, I have no knowledge of but the veterinarian brought it all on herself. It's becoming more and more apparent that people, many people, while academically gifted, do not necessarily have common sense and/or morals....most do, but sooooo many lack pure common sense. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Itsme - 2015-04-21 6:24 PM
Bear - 2015-04-21 6:08 PM
Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 6:01 PM
I agree that ISIS is a threat. This girl...probably not. But that's not really my point either.
Really? What do you base that on? I see her as a potential psychopath, based on her words and actions. I think she needs serious help. This is not normal behavior that falls under the bell curve.
I cant believe you actually feel this way, just amazing to be honest.
Oh well, I dont wish any harm to you for having differing opinions.
I can understand.. Some of the most horrendous deviants in history started out torturing animals. |
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| abrooks - 2015-04-21 6:23 PM Bear - 2015-04-21 6:15 PM abrooks - 2015-04-21 6:10 PM I tend to agree. I don't know the whole story, the dang cat could have been spraying personal items, fighting with their cats, etc. I wouldn't have done it and IF I would have I wouldn't have put it on social media at all... I think if she honestly thought it was a feral cat (which I have no idea again what the situation was) then maybe I could find some reasoning for her killing it. I see no reason for her to hold up a cat like a trophy?? It is just dumb. It's a cat for crying out loud, shoot the dang thing and move on if it's a problem. The second part of this blows my mind. I honestly do not understand how we have moved animals higher up on priority than unborn children. I honestly can say for a large time in my life (high school and college) I never thought of how wrong it was.. My family has always been adamantly prolife but there was a part of me that just didn't even acknowledge this issue in our country. Even typing that makes me cringe but that's so wrong. Maybe b/c I'm just older now and it being a struggle to have children has shifted my mindset. I don't know this story and pointing this out just brings up how weird my mindset was. I would have been all up in arms about this not too awfully long ago but now I just think there are so many more issues we are facing I can't muster the energy to get mad about an adult tom cat getting shot by a bow b/c someone thought it was feral... How about the image of her smiling and holding up that cat exclaiming, "I love killing things!" Maybe you are right. We shouldn't worry about people who make this kind of public statement. I think maybe people are looking for drama and overreacting. After all, I'm sure we've all gone through this phase. Carry on... I think she is an idiot for doing it. No I haven't went through this "phase" but I also have no idea what else went on to decide that 1-the cat was feral 2-causing a problem that it needed to die. Maybe you do..
What went on was she was target practicing in the backyard and the cat walked out and she shot it. This is documented in a FB convesation that someone took a screen shot of before she could delete it. The cat was not feral, it has unique markings that match a pet that lives in her area. The cat was tame - how she was able to get a shot through the eyes, it was not a wild cat running from her. He was healthy and loved my someone. Google it, lots of info and pics of her FB postings. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Komet basically hit the nail on the head. He's correct. itsme, do you understand what I'm talking about? |
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| Bear - 2015-04-21 6:41 PM
Komet basically hit the nail on the head. He's correct. itsme, do you understand what I'm talking about?
List all females that started the serial killing sprees on animals...
She is a moron that posted some moron things, nothing more in my opinion.
Im a big time hunter and I hunt to KILL, not harvest, thats for tractors, I kill.
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Location: Minnesota | If she would of been holding up any other animal would there be this discussion? I'm really just curious. I haven't read the other thread but have heard about this. I'm an animal lover and will go out of my way to pick up a turtle in the road or take in and care for as many animals as I can but I'm also a hunter. I've taken pictures with birds, geese and ducks. I think what she did was in poor judgement and her profession contradicts her actions. |
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