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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Whiteboy - 2015-05-15 4:56 PM It's probably just mare issues.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LRQHS - 2015-05-15 4:52 PM MeepMeep - 2015-05-15 4:47 PM From the videos he doesn't look patterned enough to be entering. He doesn't even know how to use himself around a barrel yet. I wouldn't be hauling him yet if he was mine, At the most if I HAD to haul I would trot exhibitions Meep Meep has spoken. End of discussion. lolololol You crack me up Meep Meep.
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Location: North Dakota | MeepMeep - 2015-05-15 4:47 PM From the videos he doesn't look patterned enough to be entering. He doesn't even know how to use himself around a barrel yet. I wouldn't be hauling him yet if he was mine, At the most if I HAD to haul I would trot exhibitions I do agree that the videos "aren't showing much". Honestly, for his first couple races, I really didn't pick on him much (and maybe I should have). I just wanted him QUIET and to have a good calm experience. He does do a much better job at home, and we have (or should I say *I*) have been getting him to work better at the last few races, as far as using his body right. Well, the best I can based on his "baulking" issue, which maybe isn't the right word because he's not flat out stopping on me; just reluctant to go forward.
I will have to try to get a recent video the next time we go to something.
As ItsMe said, he honestly has no clue what is going on, haha. It hasn't really "clicked" for him yet on why we are going around 3 barrels. "Lost" is a good word for him!
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Location: North Dakota | Whiteboy - 2015-05-15 4:56 PM It's probably just mare issues.
I'm probably missing the boat on the joke here, so forgive me for "not getting it" ...... but he's a gelding. ?? |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | My opinion, which is worth exactly what you paid for it.... I like him. You appear to be doing a good job with him. He is a colt. You are riding him like a colt & expecting him to behave like an older horse. When you start circling at the begining of the first video it looks to me like you are hoping he will pick up a lope. It also looks like you are hoping he will lope up to the barrels & turn them. You need to ride him like you mean it. I don't mean get aggressive with him, I just mean ride confidently. If you expect him to geek & look he will. If you expect him to pay attention to you he will. And that slow to lope business--- ask, then tell - then make.. no more than those 3 chances ever. You are leading this light brigage - be a confident leader. Riding colts is like talking with children...say what you mean & mean what say.
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| I have watched the videos, and read your comments.
As others say, I am not sure he is broke enough to be competing.
It looks like you have to try very hard to get him into a lope, it took over a circle at one time to lope him, he should be doing this in a few strides this is what I expect of my green horses.
On the video where he spooks at the barrel and jumps sideways, he is not collecting around the barrel, on the first barrel on the back side he dumps on his front end to slow down which then throws you forward and you become unbalanced. I notice he is doing this on all his turns.
Also he doesn't seem to give his nose well, when you are circling first, his nose is always sticking out even when you have contact on the reins, I would expect when I pick up they tuck their nose.
To comment on my first comment, hauling for 2 years can mean different things, this is where the too much pressure for a horse can come from. I will start hauling mine and leaving them tied up to the trailer, then I will progress to riding before or after then I will progress to riding around during the event, and lastly will start doing exhibitions on them.
I want a chance to win money before I enter, so I like them to be running fairly good before I enter.
Also all horses respond to pressure different, he looks like a very quiet horse, his response to the stimuli is to look around. He is overwhelmed with the environment and is not listening to you. This is when he is pressured up
I have one when he feels pressured up, you would never know to see it, and his response it to bolt, and refuse to listen. |
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Location: MI | I am in no way a pro, but I agree with Willrodeo. I have a 4yo I'm just taking out and went to a Lynn Mckenzie clinic with him - by far the best thing I could have done for both of us! He is still super 'lost' - I mean, doing flying lead changes and direction changes between barrels, it's pretty hilarious - but I am riding him a lot more confidently and asking him for more around the pattern. Not to say he doesn't look, but he is learning to listen to me and is doing a great job with trying.
My gelding is doing well with the pattern when there are 'markers' - cones, tires - around the barrels, but he hasn't learned how to pick barrels out of a pen yet and drive to them.
Your colt is cute. I think he's doing a really great job, but I wouldn't be worried to step it up on him and ask him for more. He'll probably still jump and look a bit, but riding with purpose will help him 'get in line' with you. |
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| Whiteboy - 2015-05-15 4:56 PM
It's probably just mare issues.
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Location: Missouri | Don't really have advice, just wanted to say that I'd be happy if my 5 y/o were loping around barrels like that! Your mare (? I got confused along the way...) looks great. You are a quiet, correct rider and it shows in your horse.
If you've been hauling that long, it may be time to up the ante a little bit. She (?) looks as if she'd be content to slow lope forever if you let her :) Also, imo, she is using her body correctly for the speed you are asking her to go...she probably hasn't had a reason to get down and dirty in a turn yet...
Also, jmo, enter away! She doesn't look competitive yet, but who cares...it's your money! Enjoy the ride. 
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| Itsme - 2015-05-16 12:15 PM
Whiteboy - 2015-05-15 4:56 PM
It's probably just mare issues.
Why you...
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Location: on my horse | I'm going to agree with willrodeo4food and then give you my COMPLETELY unprofessional opinion, I remember when you first started him yourself and were worried about doing it on your own and when he backed into the hot wire with you and have followed your journey with him. I would be tickled pink to have a 4 year old going that nicely, calmly, and honestly, confidently. If he was worried about stuff he wouldn't just toodle around with you like that. His little jumps are nothing I would be concerned with, I would take the most recent advice and ride him like you mean it (which is darn hard on a young horse because you start to wonder if they mean it too lol) because I think that will help him look to you and get moving around the barrels and in general.
He still has a lot to learn as all colts do but if you have the money and time I don't think he's too green to enter, it's a different feel than just exhibitioning so even if he's not totally ready to do it (which I think he is) he's still learning and growing and you're not stressing him out by entering him. I think it takes a long time to really get a horse working the pattern the way you want them to and I don't really see anything I would be super concerned about.
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Location: on my horse | just4fun - 2015-05-16 12:08 PM
Don't really have advice, just wanted to say that I'd be happy if my 5 y/o were loping around barrels like that! Your mare (? I got confused along the way...) looks great. You are a quiet, correct rider and it shows in your horse.
If you've been hauling that long, it may be time to up the ante a little bit. She (?) looks as if she'd be content to slow lope forever if you let her :) Also, imo, she is using her body correctly for the speed you are asking her to go...she probably hasn't had a reason to get down and dirty in a turn yet...
Also, jmo, enter away! She doesn't look competitive yet, but who cares...it's your money! Enjoy the ride.
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Location: North Dakota | Thanks for the tips and thoughts everyone. I guess that is mostly what I was wondering: should we continue to easy lope or should I start asking more of him. Again, I know it's hard to tell from videos that are almost 2 months old but it's a good reminder for me to ride him a little different.
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| Whiteboy - 2015-05-16 1:20 PM
Itsme - 2015-05-16 12:15 PM
Whiteboy - 2015-05-15 4:56 PM
It's probably just mare issues.
Why you...
lol...gotta give you some crap!!
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Location: Benton City, WA | willrodeo4food - 2015-05-16 8:18 AM My opinion, which is worth exactly what you paid for it.... I like him. You appear to be doing a good job with him. He is a colt. You are riding him like a colt & expecting him to behave like an older horse. When you start circling at the begining of the first video it looks to me like you are hoping he will pick up a lope. It also looks like you are hoping he will lope up to the barrels & turn them. You need to ride him like you mean it. I don't mean get aggressive with him, I just mean ride confidently. If you expect him to geek & look he will. If you expect him to pay attention to you he will. And that slow to lope business--- ask, then tell - then make.. no more than those 3 chances ever. You are leading this light brigage - be a confident leader. Riding colts is like talking with children...say what you mean & mean what say.
I agree with all this! He looks nice and relaxed, but he has no idea that its a timed event or that he needs to focus.
I wouldn't call him spooky at all- he's just not really paying attention. There is a big difference. I think you have a lot of good things going and foundation on him, although I would make some changes to get him working off his hindend better.
One thing that might actually help you is simply going faster to the barrels, and then really emphasizing the rate at/ around the barrels. Right now he's essentially going the same speed all the way through, which I think is allowing him to be pretty lazy. |
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