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Location: SE Louisiana | Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-18 1:27 PM
komet. - 2015-05-18 12:55 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-18 12:21 PM NJJ - 2015-05-18 12:12 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-18 10:58 AM NJJ - 2015-05-18 8:45 AM TheDutchMan01 - 2015-05-18 8:28 AM I had also read that it started in the bathroom over people bumping into each other or a wrong look and then escalated to the parking lot...so these are probably not liable answers and let's be real here there are much deeper issues to cause a fight over petty things. Especially one that would escalate so quickly. And you know something big was thought to go down if police where already at the restaurant trying to get them to refuse the bikers service..... I find it very interesting that no civilians were injured..... The reason that the police were already there was that this was a "planned" meeting (peace talks) between 5 different rival biker gangs, regarding turf, etc......The fight started in the bathroom and moved to the parking lot with a fist fight which escalated quickly to knives and guns. Most of the restaurant staff and patrons were hiding in a cooler.    It's a Twin Peaks... The only competition for Hooters... It IS a sleaze joint... Back home it's called a titty-bar... 
WAIT!! Just so there is no confusion here.... As a guy. I'm just as fond of a mammary system as the next fella... But I'm not about to shoot someone to get closer to them.... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | komet. - 2015-05-18 1:34 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-18 1:27 PM komet. - 2015-05-18 12:55 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-18 12:21 PM NJJ - 2015-05-18 12:12 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-18 10:58 AM NJJ - 2015-05-18 8:45 AM TheDutchMan01 - 2015-05-18 8:28 AM I had also read that it started in the bathroom over people bumping into each other or a wrong look and then escalated to the parking lot...so these are probably not liable answers and let's be real here there are much deeper issues to cause a fight over petty things. Especially one that would escalate so quickly. And you know something big was thought to go down if police where already at the restaurant trying to get them to refuse the bikers service..... I find it very interesting that no civilians were injured..... The reason that the police were already there was that this was a "planned" meeting (peace talks) between 5 different rival biker gangs, regarding turf, etc......The fight started in the bathroom and moved to the parking lot with a fist fight which escalated quickly to knives and guns. Most of the restaurant staff and patrons were hiding in a cooler. It's a Twin Peaks... The only competition for Hooters... It IS a sleaze joint... Back home it's called a titty-bar... WAIT!! Just so there is no confusion here.... As a guy. I'm just as fond of a mammary system as the next fella... But I'm not about to shoot someone to get closer to them....
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Oh lordy this is not going to be over anytime soon, heard that there is a greenlight for the outlaw gangs to target law officers, San Antiono is on high alert. They are excepting more biker gangs to show up now to protest the arest of their members and worried its going to be another bad outcome.
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Location: So. California | Listening to the radio this morning, I heard that the Bandido's was started by ex-military (marines?) and that is why they are so tactical in their approach. This turf war between the clubs, escalated by this recent violence, does not bode well for the citizens of Texas. You guys might have an all out turf war on your hands and it won't be pretty. Praying that tempers calm down and reasoning minds take control... |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Anniemae - 2015-05-19 10:39 AM Listening to the radio this morning, I heard that the Bandido's was started by ex-military (marines?) and that is why they are so tactical in their approach. This turf war between the clubs, escalated by this recent violence, does not bode well for the citizens of Texas. You guys might have an all out turf war on your hands and it won't be pretty. Praying that tempers calm down and reasoning minds take control...
The human race really needs to quit acting like animals. Between the a$$hat bikers and the thugs, I really think the popo should step out and let the animals eliminate themselves, then step in and do a little mop up for last man standing. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-19 11:49 AM
Anniemae - 2015-05-19 10:39 AM Listening to the radio this morning, I heard that the Bandido's was started by ex-military (marines?) and that is why they are so tactical in their approach. This turf war between the clubs, escalated by this recent violence, does not bode well for the citizens of Texas. You guys might have an all out turf war on your hands and it won't be pretty.  Praying that tempers calm down and reasoning minds take control...Â
Just wait, its going to come out that the biker clubs didnt even shoot and all the murders committed by guns were done by the govt run gang. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-19 11:49 AM Anniemae - 2015-05-19 10:39 AM Listening to the radio this morning, I heard that the Bandido's was started by ex-military (marines?) and that is why they are so tactical in their approach. This turf war between the clubs, escalated by this recent violence, does not bode well for the citizens of Texas. You guys might have an all out turf war on your hands and it won't be pretty. Praying that tempers calm down and reasoning minds take control...
I agree let the animals take themselves out.. |
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Location: So. California | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-19 9:49 AM Anniemae - 2015-05-19 10:39 AM Listening to the radio this morning, I heard that the Bandido's was started by ex-military (marines?) and that is why they are so tactical in their approach. This turf war between the clubs, escalated by this recent violence, does not bode well for the citizens of Texas. You guys might have an all out turf war on your hands and it won't be pretty. Praying that tempers calm down and reasoning minds take control...
Though I agree with you with your sentiment, humans will be humans and that animalistic behavior will continue as long as their is money, greed and power involved.
This isn't your 60's Biker gang that ran rogue and were the outlaws of the time... These are now sophisticated gangs, military training and tactics, with control of Texas' "criminal enterprise" on their minds. This is why they are considered a Tier 2 threat by LEO.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM I didn't know Waco had biker gangs. I just can't picture that.
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| Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM I didn't know Waco had biker gangs. I just can't picture that. They're in every big city.
Guess I still don't consider Waco a big city :O On the news this morning the owner of Twin Peaks, defending why he allowed them to meet there, said he has had "luncheons" before without any violence. I don't think I would call bikers getting together a "luncheon", lol. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Anniemae - 2015-05-19 1:06 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-19 9:49 AM Anniemae - 2015-05-19 10:39 AM Listening to the radio this morning, I heard that the Bandido's was started by ex-military (marines?) and that is why they are so tactical in their approach. This turf war between the clubs, escalated by this recent violence, does not bode well for the citizens of Texas. You guys might have an all out turf war on your hands and it won't be pretty. Praying that tempers calm down and reasoning minds take control...
This isn't your 60's Biker gang that ran rogue and were the outlaws of the time... These are now sophisticated gangs, military training and tactics, with control of Texas' "criminal enterprise" on their minds. This is why they are considered a Tier 2 threat by LEO.
Then they need to be taken out. Simple as that. Break the law, have the desire to kill and are actively looking for a fight, then they need taken out. I think the good ol USA needs to get a little western for awhile. I just don't have any sympothy for these people. They are not good people and I doubt would lose a minutes sleep if a stray bullet killed someone's child. |
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Location: Texas | rodeomom3 - 2015-05-19 2:50 PM Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM I didn't know Waco had biker gangs. I just can't picture that. They're in every big city.
I saw the police chief on the news blaming the restaurant owner and the Twin Peaks corporate revolking their franchise. Not sure that I understand exactly what he did. Could he not let them into his restaurant? Would that have not caused more conflict? Or maybe there was more to it that I didn't catch. |
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| There is so much more to this, just watch and listen with an open mind in the months to come. Head shots and 2 to the torso... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RocketPilot - 2015-05-19 9:35 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-19 2:50 PM Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM I didn't know Waco had biker gangs. I just can't picture that. They're in every big city.
I'm a bit confused on what happen to where the franchise was pulled, I know that the police were wanting the owner to refuse the gang members service. What would have been the difference I wonder if he did turn them away, I think that they would have stayed anyway are just gone down the road to have this gang war, they were all rived up for a fight and the police knew it... |
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| Exactly the cops couldnt stop it from happening but the restaurant could have? Am I taking crazy pills?
Cops were armed to the gills and picking off bikers at will. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | RocketPilot - 2015-05-19 9:35 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-19 2:50 PM Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM I didn't know Waco had biker gangs. I just can't picture that. They're in every big city.
Many of the restaurants in San Antonio won't let bikers in when they are wearing their MC vests as it stands for their gang colors.
There has been trouble brewing for sometime with a territory dispute and the restaurant was asked to work with police and they wouldn't. The police then went to the Corporate office and the Corporate office asked the management to work with police and they once again said no. It was a no brainer there was going to be trouble and that is why the police were on site and got it under control before it really got nuts. The body count would have been a lot higher and it might have included innocent people. All of it could have been prevented if Twin Peaks had done their part.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Itsme - 2015-05-19 10:09 PM Exactly the cops couldnt stop it from happening but the restaurant could have? Am I taking crazy pills? Cops were armed to the gills and picking off bikers at will.
The way I understand this is that the police knew it was going to go down and they were ready and I think they were there befor the bikers, and like you said armed to the gills. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 10:12 PM RocketPilot - 2015-05-19 9:35 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-19 2:50 PM Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM I didn't know Waco had biker gangs. I just can't picture that. They're in every big city.
There has been trouble brewing for sometime with a territory dispute and the restaurant was asked to work with police and they wouldn't. The police then went to the Corporate office and the Corporate office asked the management to work with police and they once again said no. It was a no brainer there was going to be trouble and that is why the police were on site and got it under control before it really got nuts. The body count would have been a lot higher and it might have included innocent people. All of it could have been prevented if Twin Peaks had done their part.
I just wonder how the owner if he could, just turn the bikers away, I would think that the bikers would have stayed anyway, this is one guy against more then 200 bikers. |
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| Nah, the bikers seemed very respectful of authority, they would have just packed up, apologized for the inconvenience and left... |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-19 10:07 PM
RocketPilot - 2015-05-19 9:35 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-19 2:50 PM Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM  I didn't know Waco had biker gangs.  I just can't picture that. They're in every big city. Â
I've never been in a Twin Peaks store, tho we have one right across the street. If the store didn't follow franchise guidelines I can understand why it got pulled. The store here hires off duty cops to sit in there as does Hooters. The Twin Peaks here has a large parking area in front designated just for bikes, so they cater to the bikers.. While I understand one gang had rented the place for an outside event that does not forbid other people from coming there to do business.. |
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