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Location: Kansas | After seeing some "camps" that the match racers all keep their horses at, no way in the world would I let one of my horses end up in the hands of one of those folks. |
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| oh my you all should have been in mexico when 50,000 match race beween beduino and and i really forget the american horse i know ronnie banks
was one of the jockeys and vessells stallion farm bought him and brought him to US
they had gauard guns its was wild i rember some as i worked with ronnie and saw the bediuno horse when he came to los al
gary fisher pony him a a mex with legs under a over girth was on him
don/t group them all aliike they are not
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | vjls - 2015-05-21 2:35 PM oh my you all should have been in mexico when 50,000 match race beween beduino and and i really forget the american horse i know ronnie banks
was one of the jockeys and vessells stallion farm bought him and brought him to US
they had gauard guns its was wild i rember some as i worked with ronnie and saw the bediuno horse when he came to los al
gary fisher pony him a a mex with legs under a over girth was on him
don/t group them all aliike they are not
probably not but it is too hard to decifer good ones from bad and I don't need the money that bad right now.
I did love watching that video of Beduino kicking some behind! He was a nice horse, just about perfect in my eyes. |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | Like I said I would sell to a match racer but I would never buy a match race horse because they are done match racing they are done. |
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| Griz - 2015-05-21 11:19 AM
FlyingJT - 2015-05-21 9:30 AM
I've actually watched a couple match races.. They tie themselves on bareback with a rope...... craziest thing I've seen!!!
Here the match races are just like a regular race, (only done under the table ).
Nope not around my area.. it's done on back roads in the middle of nowhere |
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| I sold a horse to a barrel racer. She made a point to tell me that the horse was not as represented and had sent her to the killers. That horse is still registered in my name. When you sell a horse to anyone, you have no control over what happens to them. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-21 10:09 AM
equussynergy - 2015-05-21 10:49 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-21 10:11 AM I just say sold if they call and can't speak english or if the emails sound like they may be match racers. Call it profiling if you want, but even hispanic names, I will ask some questions in the emails to see what their intentions are. I have sold a few that I know went to match racers. Never heard about those horses again. 3 to be exact (that I know of). I just do what I can to avoid them. Don't put no match racers in the ad or they will lie to you. I had one that played the game pretty good for a couple of weeks and then slipped up. This is the part that bothers me. I know once you sell a horse you have no control over it but honestly nothing makes me happier than hearing how a horse I bred and raised is doing.
My happiest customers are ones that are competing in their local 4D's etc. I have some that have futurity plans for them, but either way the horses are well loved, have great homes and I get updated pictures constantly. As a breeder that makes my day. Sure I would love to have the next BFA Champion, who doesn't hope for that with a home raised baby? But I got what I was asking out of them and they are in a good place. So life is good.
All the match racers around here can't wait for me to sell them the stud colt. The answer is NO! Since I live so close to the border I am glad he's branded so nicely. This is not a local brand and you only see it around here when the rodeos come to town other than on my colt. He is NFS! |
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Location: California | They run the **** out of them and hop the hell out of them too. Put on your ad - NO MATCHRACERS. I have a FB site where people list OTT QH and Paints. I tell people right off the bat that if they are a match racer, they are not welcome and I will ban them. Period. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-21 1:47 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-21 12:34 PM Ive actually seen several very nice well bred race horses for sale by mexicans....and I mean jaw dropping nice. I don't believe all are bad, some actually take very good care of their horses. I guess it would just depend on the individual and their rep, but I wouldn't shy away from it. Most turn around and list them after they race, and some end up in performance homes. I bought 2 of those REALLY nice prospects. One was hopped up on pain meds and died of severe laminitis 30 days later the other was supposedly turned out because she got sore from a bad bump in race training. In reality she probably flipped in the gates and broke her withers and bone in her tail.
If they are great looking, well bred and cheap. It IS too good to be true. We paid a lot for the 2 mentioned above, no way would I even think if buying one of their cheaper ones. If they were sound, their buddies would be buying them at that price.
I had 3 or 4 match racers call about the Rare Form granddaughter I sold a few weeks ago. They all low-balled me, so it was easy to tell them no deal without making excuses. |
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| I've sold a good number to match racers and have bought from them too. It flat doesn't bother me.
If the horse is nice enough (and in the US) they will run them regular track too.
One colt I sold made well over 70 matching, he set a track record regular track, won a few, made 26+ officially. Another has made I don't know how much matching, but he has a 94si and a win on his official record.
I've sold some to Mexico never to return buy I've seen win pictures :-) I've also sold some to "good homes" that have been anything but.
Judging an entire set by a few is rarely (if ever) a wise way to make decisions. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | kuhlmann - 2015-05-21 6:40 PM I've sold a good number to match racers and have bought from them too. It flat doesn't bother me.
If the horse is nice enough (and in the US) they will run them regular track too.
One colt I sold made well over 70 matching, he set a track record regular track, won a few, made 26+ officially. Another has made I don't know how much matching, but he has a 94si and a win on his official record.
I've sold some to Mexico never to return buy I've seen win pictures :-) I've also sold some to "good homes" that have been anything but.
Judging an entire set by a few is rarely (if ever) a wise way to make decisions.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Barnmom - 2015-05-21 7:45 PM kuhlmann - 2015-05-21 6:40 PM I've sold a good number to match racers and have bought from them too. It flat doesn't bother me.
If the horse is nice enough (and in the US) they will run them regular track too.
One colt I sold made well over 70 matching, he set a track record regular track, won a few, made 26+ officially. Another has made I don't know how much matching, but he has a 94si and a win on his official record.
I've sold some to Mexico never to return buy I've seen win pictures :-) I've also sold some to "good homes" that have been anything but.
Judging an entire set by a few is rarely (if ever) a wise way to make decisions. ^^^This
I Agree with you here, I've just heard bad things and I really love my horses and want them to go to good people. I'm terrible at selling horses! Lol. |
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Location: Arkansas | equussynergy - 2015-05-21 8:59 PM
Barnmom - 2015-05-21 7:45 PM kuhlmann - 2015-05-21 6:40 PM I've sold a good number to match racers and have bought from them too. It flat doesn't bother me.
If the horse is nice enough (and in the US) they will run them regular track too.
One colt I sold made well over 70 matching, he set a track record regular track, won a few, made 26+ officially. Another has made I don't know how much matching, but he has a 94si and a win on his official record.
I've sold some to Mexico never to return buy I've seen win pictures :-) I've also sold some to "good homes" that have been anything but.
Judging an entire set by a few is rarely (if ever) a wise way to make decisions. ^^^This
This is why mine never leave once they get here. . . . We bought one from a very nice Mexican that lives by us. He said he had never been raced-----yeah, that would be false. He was so hyped up and a MESS when we got him home and started working with him. He was totally unable to walk next to another horse----he freaked and tried to outrun anyone who even walked by. You could tell all he knew was "they're gonna beat the h-ll out of me and I better run." Such a nice horse to have that done to him. He's been to a trainer, but my bf has had back issues ever since he's been back, so hopefully we'll see a big difference when he's able to really start riding again. Either way, Lynn isn't going anywhere---he's at home to stay. |
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| FlyingJT - 2015-05-21 4:36 PM
Griz - 2015-05-21 11:19 AM
FlyingJT - 2015-05-21 9:30 AM
I've actually watched a couple match races.. They tie themselves on bareback with a rope...... craziest thing I've seen!!!
Here the match races are just like a regular race, (only done under the table ).
Nope not around my area.. it's done on back roads in the middle of nowhere
Same here, they are done off the beaten path away from the law but they ride with regular flat tack, have starting gates, starters - even a photographer. - It's almost a carnival atmosphere - and they have GOOD Mexican food!
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| Griz - 2015-05-22 5:20 AM
FlyingJT - 2015-05-21 4:36 PM
Griz - 2015-05-21 11:19 AM
FlyingJT - 2015-05-21 9:30 AM
I've actually watched a couple match races.. They tie themselves on bareback with a rope...... craziest thing I've seen!!!
Here the match races are just like a regular race, (only done under the table ).
Nope not around my area.. it's done on back roads in the middle of nowhere
Same here, they are done off the beaten path away from the law but they ride with regular flat tack, have starting gates, starters - even a photographer. - It's almost a carnival atmosphere - and they have GOOD Mexican food!
yep.. the works but they just had a pad and then had them selves tied on with rope... strange and brave! They usually slaughtered a goat and cooked it in the ground, load music, and a huge celebration after it was done... Their horses were treated well, they like their horses jumping up and down(even just their everyday riding horse), I think it's just their culture, but they were fed well and conditioned well. |
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Location: Southwest Louisiana | I had a really nice one that I had to sell because I had two (human) babies, husband working out of town and just couldn't care for the 5 horses I had at the time. He was green broke, smooth, very smart and very friendly. Had good running bloodlines and was registered appendix qh. Sold him to a nice Mexican man in Louisiana. didn't even think about match racing as a possibility. Emailed the guy a few months later to check on the horse and said he sold him to someone in houston. I'm thinking match racing because he's still registered in my name and this was 4 years ago. I hate it because that was a very smart, sweet horse and I hate not knowing how or where he ended up. |
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Location: North Dakota | I had no idea this was even a thing...shows how in the loop I am! Then again this sounds like a mexican thing and there's not a huge population in this area yet. |
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-22 3:08 PM
I had no idea this was even a thing...shows how in the loop I am! Then again this sounds like a mexican thing and there's not a huge population in this area yet.
not really we were brush tracking when I was 18 in liberty mo willisamburg mo several places and there was not a mexicam or black except dud
jockey.
first race I won brush also first ime I got him in the face with a stick yep I got into a fight over that learned a lot on brush tracka
how come we have so may holier than thou on here?
I bet there are quite a few here that rode brush
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| my daughters old horse ran on the tractrack forever then match raced. He's 20 and is still going strong. We have to medicate a little but what 20 Yr old performance horse doesn't need maintenance |
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Location: Arkansas | FlyingJT - 2015-05-22 9:50 AM
Griz - 2015-05-22 5:20 AM
FlyingJT - 2015-05-21 4:36 PM
Griz - 2015-05-21 11:19 AM
FlyingJT - 2015-05-21 9:30 AM
I've actually watched a couple match races.. They tie themselves on bareback with a rope...... craziest thing I've seen!!!
Here the match races are just like a regular race, (only done under the table ).
Nope not around my area.. it's done on back roads in the middle of nowhere
Same here, they are done off the beaten path away from the law but they ride with regular flat tack, have starting gates, starters - even a photographer. - It's almost a carnival atmosphere - and they have GOOD Mexican food!
yep.. the works but they just had a pad and then had them selves tied on with rope... strange and brave! They usually slaughtered a goat and cooked it in the ground, load music, and a huge celebration after it was done... Their horses were treated well, they like their horses jumping up and down (even just their everyday riding horse ), I think it's just their culture, but they were fed well and conditioned well.
The ones in our area are stalled or tied out in front yards by their necks all week and then jerked up on the weekend and get the crap run out of them down dirt turnrows. Then stuck back in the dark barn til next race. I wouldn't say these in our area are well conditioned. Then some are mysteriously gone after the weekend. . . . Just makes me sick. |
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