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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM
So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.
My question would be how long has horse been galloping? Breeding? |
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Location: Choctaw, OK | His sire is Some Beaches (who is the sire of the 04 barrel futurity ch) and is a son of Stoli. Bottom side is top moon and special task.
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-24 9:00 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-05-24 9:52 PM Leo - 2015-05-24 8:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-24 9:40 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. I would love to have a money tree  Me too! I'd probably drown it giving it too much water.....grow baby grow!!! lol 
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-25 9:01 AM His sire is Some Beaches (who is the sire of the 04 barrel futility ch) and is a son of Stoli. Bottom side is top moon and special task.
I would just save the money and send him to a barrel futurity trainer at around $750. |
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| RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM
So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.
What is your horses registered name ...
to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ...
Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ...
I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun
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| If you bought a 3yr old stud off the track thats just started galloping there was probably a reason he didn't go on to get a gate card or have any schooling races. Now if you just bought him from someone and he has not been tattooed etc you may still have one that might be worth a flip but you'd still haft to find a race trainer that would take a chance on a 3yr old stud. We send ours to the trainer as a yearling, they are tattooed, and ready to go as 2 yr olds....by 3yrs we've already decided they are headed to the barrel pen, culled out of performance discipline entirely, or they are good enough to keep racing.
Find a trainer with few horses in the barn, if your dead set on this. You need to be very cautious, you can get took by someone in a heartbeat. Also the risk of injury to your horse. IMO if you have a good amount invested in him I would not risk it at this point because he has already pasted the ideal age for things to happen at the track. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-05-25 12:42 PM RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma. What is your horses registered name ... to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ... Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ... I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun
This is absolutely false. They do not have to be tattooed to get on the grounds. This is why they have days set up to do such on the backside. Usually takes place in the test barn. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Is this a chicken across the road type of question.
Haul him up there and walk him on. ;)
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | oija - 2015-05-25 6:44 PM
Is this a chicken across the road type of question.
Haul him up there and walk him on. ; )
My first thought was "practice, practice, practice". lol
...like How do you get to Carnegie Hall?
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| We use a smaller trainer in Tx bc he's the ones actually training the horse vs a big name with a 100 head in their barn in which case your horses training is only as good as as the hired help. Here's a breakdown of a monthly bill for the Derby horse who is actually winning:
Trainer bill:
Training- $1100
Shoes- $110
Vet:
Adequan - $60
Ulcer gard- $100 ???
Lasix -$20
That was for one month! It takes several to prep one and he won his first and only out at Houston.
Nomination fees for upcoming sire race is $1000, I think and I've already paid the first 2 payment. His SI is in the high 80s lower 90s. EVERYTIME they win they have to "move up" in competition
The 2 fillies we have at the track have the same training/shoeing bill however one suffered from a bout with ulcers and the other got sick. Another $2185. Both had one out and only one placed 3rd.
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| Since your in Oklahoma.....yes I raced my boy at Remington.....I like Mike Howell, he races in Oklahoma and Texas. He is real good with the colts, a real down home horseman. Prices are better then most.
Pm me and Imwill give you his contact information.
Good luck with your horse it is so exciting to see your own horse run and sometimes win!
They get tattooed on the back side.....they CAN get on the track without a tattoo.
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-05-25 12:42 PM
RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM
So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.
What is your horses registered name ...
to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ...
Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ...
I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun
My experience has been a lot different. I've been running horses for about 15 years and I've yet to have one run a good SI # on their 1st race. In fact, my best horse ran a SI 59 in his 1st race and ended up running SI 106 as his best. Won over $100,000 too. Different tracks/trainers, who knows? I just thought I'd add the other side of the thought process.
I do agree with whoever said that it's a little late. If he didn't have some outs as a 2 yr old, he lacks experience and it's difficult to make up. I'd also want to know why he didn't have an out or two. Was he hurt? Immature?
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | JLPBR - 2015-05-26 2:48 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-05-25 12:42 PM RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma. What is your horses registered name ... to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ... Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ... I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun My experience has been a lot different. I've been running horses for about 15 years and I've yet to have one run a good SI # on their 1st race. In fact, my best horse ran a SI 59 in his 1st race and ended up running SI 106 as his best. Won over $100,000 too. Different tracks/trainers, who knows? I just thought I'd add the other side of the thought process. I do agree with whoever said that it's a little late. If he didn't have some outs as a 2 yr old, he lacks experience and it's difficult to make up. I'd also want to know why he didn't have an out or two. Was he hurt? Immature?
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Location: NE Texas | total performance - 2015-05-27 8:17 AM JLPBR - 2015-05-26 2:48 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-05-25 12:42 PM RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma. What is your horses registered name ... to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ... Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ... I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun My experience has been a lot different. I've been running horses for about 15 years and I've yet to have one run a good SI # on their 1st race. In fact, my best horse ran a SI 59 in his 1st race and ended up running SI 106 as his best. Won over $100,000 too. Different tracks/trainers, who knows? I just thought I'd add the other side of the thought process. I do agree with whoever said that it's a little late. If he didn't have some outs as a 2 yr old, he lacks experience and it's difficult to make up. I'd also want to know why he didn't have an out or two. Was he hurt? Immature? 
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| generally, how many months old are they when you send them to the trainer?
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | booney - 2015-05-27 8:08 AM generally, how months old are they when you send them to the trainer?
I was wondering the same thing. My foals are April and May babies because I'm not set up to foal earlier. I'd like to race to get a good S.I. and then move on with their training. |
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Location: NE Texas | If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year. It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Herbie - 2015-05-27 9:17 AM If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year. It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track.
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Herbie - 2015-05-27 8:42 AM total performance - 2015-05-27 8:17 AM JLPBR - 2015-05-26 2:48 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-05-25 12:42 PM RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma. What is your horses registered name ... to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ... Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ... I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun My experience has been a lot different. I've been running horses for about 15 years and I've yet to have one run a good SI # on their 1st race. In fact, my best horse ran a SI 59 in his 1st race and ended up running SI 106 as his best. Won over $100,000 too. Different tracks/trainers, who knows? I just thought I'd add the other side of the thought process. I do agree with whoever said that it's a little late. If he didn't have some outs as a 2 yr old, he lacks experience and it's difficult to make up. I'd also want to know why he didn't have an out or two. Was he hurt? Immature?
LMAO!! Well, we do know your hubby wanted to put him in a stake right off! |
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