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Location: the end of the rainbow | hammer_time - 2015-06-12 11:47 PM
I don't know how anyone CAN get up and over in a Bob Marshall. I've ridden in one and my boobs go forward and my butt goes back and my legs go out when I tried to get up and over because there's no structure to the saddle. I say just sit on your ass and actively ride to your next one.
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Location: Phoenix | I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggles in those saddles. By GOLLY they are comfy but I feel sucked in! I can get up and over in a split second to rope in my Tod Slone barrel/roper combo saddle but I feel downright retarded when I try in the Bob Marshall!!  |
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If you feel like the seat is too big try a seat plug.It straps in and will shorten the seat about an inch.We had two made by a saddle maker firend.They have them I think on NRS site.
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Location: Phoenix | OldSchoolCowgirl - 2015-06-14 11:52 AM clampitt - 2015-06-13 3:52 PM If you feel like the seat is too big try a seat plug.It straps in and will shorten the seat about an inch.We had two made by a saddle maker firend.They have them I think on NRS site. What is a "seat plug?" Do you mean bucking rolls?
Probably this?
http://www.nrsworld.com/martin-saddlery/saddle-seat-shrinker-6259
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Location: Texas | hammer_time - 2015-06-14 5:30 PM OldSchoolCowgirl - 2015-06-14 11:52 AM clampitt - 2015-06-13 3:52 PM If you feel like the seat is too big try a seat plug.It straps in and will shorten the seat about an inch.We had two made by a saddle maker firend.They have them I think on NRS site. What is a "seat plug?" Do you mean bucking rolls?
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99% of the time getting behind is caused by not being balanced in the turns and usually thats just a seat/confidence problem.
Best exercise is to ride. Lope lots and lots of circles without depending on the reins to balance. Have someone lounge your horse and use one hand to hold the horn if you must, eventually you want to focus on not touching anything. Youtube a reiner or stacy westfall (a bride less run) and watch them...they have their hands up for balance to help but they are completely out of that horses mouth balancing on their own.
Another one I've seen is setting your saddle up on a fence and you practicing like its a run and starfishes and kicking to win the world. It'll teach you balance or the fence with dump you LOL
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | astreakinchic - 2015-06-14 5:59 PM There really is no thing as a seat too big. A bigger seat will only help you sit deeper in the turns. Why do you think cutting ppl ride those big ol 16 in saddles? Most barrel ppl ride a saddle thats too small and too high a back that throws them forward in the turns and they have no idea it causes them to be off balance because they can't sit deep and stay balanced and with their horses in the turns. BUT i will say there are some girls those style of riding requires them to stay forward and some horses bottom line with not clock and work if not constantly pushed by a rider that stays forward and pushes on them however awkward that may look. Case in point Sarah and bling or the old team of Brian and Peaches. Google pics I'm too lazy to resize and post. Everyone has a different style and so does the horse...it'll work for some but not for others. Some ppl want a bob marshall saddle to help them stay with a horse that "bends into" or is "snakey" in the turns. I usually just sale that kinda horse LOL 99% of the time getting behind is caused by not being balanced in the turns and usually thats just a seat/confidence problem. Best exercise is to ride. Lope lots and lots of circles without depending on the reins to balance. Have someone lounge your horse and use one hand to hold the horn if you must, eventually you want to focus on not touching anything. Youtube a reiner or stacy westfall (a bride less run) and watch them...they have their hands up for balance to help but they are completely out of that horses mouth balancing on their own. Another one I've seen is setting your saddle up on a fence and you practicing like its a run and starfishes and kicking to win the world. It'll teach you balance or the fence with dump you LOL
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Location: Heart of Texas | I feel ya! Finally, after 4 years of soundness problems I believe my gelding is finally sound. Boy did I ever get left behind Tuesday night. Some how I still won the 1D despite my trick riding. I've never been left behind, even on him, but he's never been sound. My right palm is bruised badly from my death grip on the saddle horn. That's how much force he left the 3rd barrel with. All 14 hands of him. My friend said, "wow, you really caught some air on the 3rd." lol I need a seat belt and some glue. 
I borrowed a sports saddle for Friday night. And... he ducked the second barrel after smoking the 1st. I did not feel safe either and felt it bunch up. I think it freaked im out. 
Soooooooooooo, I'm going to shorten my stirrups and put some of that sticky stuff on my seat. It's too slick. And, start working out. I will be prepared for next time.
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Location: Texas | Okay... For what it's worth... I'm going to give you a little critique of your run.
I don't necessarily think you're behind. You actually ride her well. Here is what I see that could help you. Your seat looks a tad too small, your stirrups look a bit too short, and you are leaning forward in your run which is keeping your mare a little heavy on her front end. You are even leaning forward through your turns, which means you are not sitting up and using your legs and seat to urge your horse forward. When we lean forward we throw our horses on their front end which tends to slow down the motor in the turns as well as in our approach. That is how we lose that snappy turn around the barrels. Fix those little things and you can shave up to a half second off your runs.
edited to add... Your legs are too far forward in the saddle... That is why you are having trouble getting up out of it. If your legs were more in the correct riding position, under your hips, it would give you some leverage to push yourself up so you could be "lighter" in your saddle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz-R_eyj4Aw
That's a nice little horse, good luck!
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Okay... For what it's worth... I'm going to give you a little critique of your run.
I don't necessarily think you're behind. You actually ride her well. Here is what I see that could help you. Your seat looks a tad too small, your stirrups look a bit too short, and you are leaning forward in your run which is keeping your mare a little heavy on her front end. You are even leaning forward through your turns, which means you are not sitting up and using your legs and seat to urge your horse forward. When we lean forward we throw our horses on their front end which tends to slow down the motor in the turns as well as in our approach. That is how we lose that snappy turn around the barrels. Fix those little things and you can shave up to a half second off your runs.
edited to add... Your legs are too far forward in the saddle... That is why you are having trouble getting up out of it. If your legs were more in the correct riding position, under your hips, it would give you some leverage to push yourself up so you could be "lighter" in your saddle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz-R_eyj4Aw
That's a nice little horse, good luck!
Thanks. She is actually an exceedingly front endy horse. One I've mentioned before on another post. But in this video, for her, it's very engaged. I've thought about trying to get my feet behind me more through a turn to see if it would help. I have to use my legs to steer her through the first barrel, so it can be tricky for me to remember to keep my leg back, when I need it forward to push her over.
Gotta give me a break here. I'm working my butt of trying to regain my balance. Working through the week on reiners, equitation, and horsemanship... This is MY first run in almost 2 years. Second time going through the barrel pattern in this saddle. I'm struggling and working hard every single day to get back into any kind of shape. I think the majority of the run is just me reverting to whatever muscle memory I have from before, which is of course flawed. I didn't feel like I was too forward in the saddle... I felt like I was just struggling to stay forward. The saddle feels good, as far as size. It's a 16in seat, and I typically ride in a 15.5in treed saddle. Been told several times that shorter stirrups is necessary for these saddles. They are just a smidge MAYBE shorter than typical stirrup length. I've never ridden in one prior, so I'm really just trying to figure out the perfect configuration that works for me.
I know after the second, especially, I got left behind... probably a few strides behind her and didn't ride her appropriately and push her through the third barrel, she got dumped on the front end. But its truly because I wasn't there to do my job. She just turned it without a rider. When I ride in and get her hip pushed in, she can rip around one. I just have to help her. So frustrating... even with these mistakes, she placed in the 1D for her first race back. There will be mistakes, but I don't think critiquing the heck out of a first run is going to do much good. Especially after I've torn through it for days by now. lol But I do appreciate the perspective from the outside, in. lol I've never had anyone tell me to sit deeper and get my body back before. I'm usually the one who is yelled at to "jockey"...
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lol I can relate. This was the first competition run in over a year for her, then almost another year before that. After I had my daughter, I started her back in the reining and when I decided to put her on barrels again, she just started working like never before. I was taken aback when she wanted to run harder and turn harder than I remember. lol I swear if I had a seat belt and super glue, I would have won the whole dang thing! ;-)
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OldSchoolCowgirl - 2015-06-14 11:52 AM clampitt - 2015-06-13 3:52 PM If you feel like the seat is too big try a seat plug.It straps in and will shorten the seat about an inch.We had two made by a saddle maker firend.They have them I think on NRS site. What is a "seat plug?" Do you mean bucking rolls? http://www.nrsworld.com/martin-saddlery/saddle-seat-shrinker-6259
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-14 5:59 PM There really is no thing as a seat too big. A bigger seat will only help you sit deeper in the turns. Why do you think cutting ppl ride those big ol 16 in saddles? Most barrel ppl ride a saddle thats too small and too high a back that throws them forward in the turns and they have no idea it causes them to be off balance because they can't sit deep and stay balanced and with their horses in the turns. BUT i will say there are some girls those style of riding requires them to stay forward and some horses bottom line with not clock and work if not constantly pushed by a rider that stays forward and pushes on them however awkward that may look. Case in point Sarah and bling or the old team of Brian and Peaches. Google pics I'm too lazy to resize and post. Everyone has a different style and so does the horse...it'll work for some but not for others. Some ppl want a bob marshall saddle to help them stay with a horse that "bends into" or is "snakey" in the turns. I usually just sale that kinda horse LOL 99% of the time getting behind is caused by not being balanced in the turns and usually thats just a seat/confidence problem. Best exercise is to ride. Lope lots and lots of circles without depending on the reins to balance. Have someone lounge your horse and use one hand to hold the horn if you must, eventually you want to focus on not touching anything. Youtube a reiner or stacy westfall (a bride less run) and watch them...they have their hands up for balance to help but they are completely out of that horses mouth balancing on their own. Another one I've seen is setting your saddle up on a fence and you practicing like its a run and starfishes and kicking to win the world. It'll teach you balance or the fence with dump you LOL
Now that would be a funny video watching someone riding the fence, LOL
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-14 5:59 PM There really is no thing as a seat too big. A bigger seat will only help you sit deeper in the turns. Why do you think cutting ppl ride those big ol 16 in saddles? Most barrel ppl ride a saddle thats too small and too high a back that throws them forward in the turns and they have no idea it causes them to be off balance because they can't sit deep and stay balanced and with their horses in the turns. BUT i will say there are some girls those style of riding requires them to stay forward and some horses bottom line with not clock and work if not constantly pushed by a rider that stays forward and pushes on them however awkward that may look. Case in point Sarah and bling or the old team of Brian and Peaches. Google pics I'm too lazy to resize and post. Everyone has a different style and so does the horse...it'll work for some but not for others. Some ppl want a bob marshall saddle to help them stay with a horse that "bends into" or is "snakey" in the turns. I usually just sale that kinda horse LOL 99% of the time getting behind is caused by not being balanced in the turns and usually thats just a seat/confidence problem. Best exercise is to ride. Lope lots and lots of circles without depending on the reins to balance. Have someone lounge your horse and use one hand to hold the horn if you must, eventually you want to focus on not touching anything. Youtube a reiner or stacy westfall (a bride less run) and watch them...they have their hands up for balance to help but they are completely out of that horses mouth balancing on their own. Another one I've seen is setting your saddle up on a fence and you practicing like its a run and starfishes and kicking to win the world. It'll teach you balance or the fence with dump you LOL
Now that would be a funny video watching someone riding the fence, LOL
I guess she's never sat in a treeless. lol I think I'd need a doctor after riding it on a fence...
actually this is straight from Jackie and Tammi they even recommend you do it at their clinics
And I've owned 10-12 treeless saddles 
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-14 5:59 PM There really is no thing as a seat too big. A bigger seat will only help you sit deeper in the turns. Why do you think cutting ppl ride those big ol 16 in saddles? Most barrel ppl ride a saddle thats too small and too high a back that throws them forward in the turns and they have no idea it causes them to be off balance because they can't sit deep and stay balanced and with their horses in the turns. BUT i will say there are some girls those style of riding requires them to stay forward and some horses bottom line with not clock and work if not constantly pushed by a rider that stays forward and pushes on them however awkward that may look. Case in point Sarah and bling or the old team of Brian and Peaches. Google pics I'm too lazy to resize and post. Everyone has a different style and so does the horse...it'll work for some but not for others. Some ppl want a bob marshall saddle to help them stay with a horse that "bends into" or is "snakey" in the turns. I usually just sale that kinda horse LOL 99% of the time getting behind is caused by not being balanced in the turns and usually thats just a seat/confidence problem. Best exercise is to ride. Lope lots and lots of circles without depending on the reins to balance. Have someone lounge your horse and use one hand to hold the horn if you must, eventually you want to focus on not touching anything. Youtube a reiner or stacy westfall (a bride less run) and watch them...they have their hands up for balance to help but they are completely out of that horses mouth balancing on their own. Another one I've seen is setting your saddle up on a fence and you practicing like its a run and starfishes and kicking to win the world. It'll teach you balance or the fence with dump you LOL
Now that would be a funny video watching someone riding the fence, LOL
I guess she's never sat in a treeless. lol I think I'd need a doctor after riding it on a fence...
But it doesn't hold the shape on a fence...? I've sat in it on a saddle stand and it felt completely different than on a horse. Not trying to be snappy, just trying to understand the best way to do it. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | CallMeSkidmark - 2015-06-15 11:35 AM CallMeSkidmark - 2015-06-15 7:41 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-06-14 6:34 PM astreakinchic - 2015-06-14 5:59 PM There really is no thing as a seat too big. A bigger seat will only help you sit deeper in the turns. Why do you think cutting ppl ride those big ol 16 in saddles? Most barrel ppl ride a saddle thats too small and too high a back that throws them forward in the turns and they have no idea it causes them to be off balance because they can't sit deep and stay balanced and with their horses in the turns. BUT i will say there are some girls those style of riding requires them to stay forward and some horses bottom line with not clock and work if not constantly pushed by a rider that stays forward and pushes on them however awkward that may look. Case in point Sarah and bling or the old team of Brian and Peaches. Google pics I'm too lazy to resize and post. Everyone has a different style and so does the horse...it'll work for some but not for others. Some ppl want a bob marshall saddle to help them stay with a horse that "bends into" or is "snakey" in the turns. I usually just sale that kinda horse LOL 99% of the time getting behind is caused by not being balanced in the turns and usually thats just a seat/confidence problem. Best exercise is to ride. Lope lots and lots of circles without depending on the reins to balance. Have someone lounge your horse and use one hand to hold the horn if you must, eventually you want to focus on not touching anything. Youtube a reiner or stacy westfall (a bride less run) and watch them...they have their hands up for balance to help but they are completely out of that horses mouth balancing on their own. Another one I've seen is setting your saddle up on a fence and you practicing like its a run and starfishes and kicking to win the world. It'll teach you balance or the fence with dump you LOL Now that would be a funny video watching someone riding the fence, LOL I guess she's never sat in a treeless. lol I think I'd need a doctor after riding it on a fence... But it doesn't hold the shape on a fence...? I've sat in it on a saddle stand and it felt completely different than on a horse. Not trying to be snappy, just trying to understand the best way to do it.
I think a treeless saddle on a fence would have a whole different feel then a treed, the treeless would not hold a shape very well I would think, and a treed you would really have to balance to keep it on the fence, so to me a treed saddle would be a better fence rider, LOL |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | astreakinchic - 2015-06-15 11:20 AM CallMeSkidmark - 2015-06-15 8:41 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-06-14 6:34 PM astreakinchic - 2015-06-14 5:59 PM There really is no thing as a seat too big. A bigger seat will only help you sit deeper in the turns. Why do you think cutting ppl ride those big ol 16 in saddles? Most barrel ppl ride a saddle thats too small and too high a back that throws them forward in the turns and they have no idea it causes them to be off balance because they can't sit deep and stay balanced and with their horses in the turns. BUT i will say there are some girls those style of riding requires them to stay forward and some horses bottom line with not clock and work if not constantly pushed by a rider that stays forward and pushes on them however awkward that may look. Case in point Sarah and bling or the old team of Brian and Peaches. Google pics I'm too lazy to resize and post. Everyone has a different style and so does the horse...it'll work for some but not for others. Some ppl want a bob marshall saddle to help them stay with a horse that "bends into" or is "snakey" in the turns. I usually just sale that kinda horse LOL 99% of the time getting behind is caused by not being balanced in the turns and usually thats just a seat/confidence problem. Best exercise is to ride. Lope lots and lots of circles without depending on the reins to balance. Have someone lounge your horse and use one hand to hold the horn if you must, eventually you want to focus on not touching anything. Youtube a reiner or stacy westfall (a bride less run) and watch them...they have their hands up for balance to help but they are completely out of that horses mouth balancing on their own. Another one I've seen is setting your saddle up on a fence and you practicing like its a run and starfishes and kicking to win the world. It'll teach you balance or the fence with dump you LOL Now that would be a funny video watching someone riding the fence, LOL I guess she's never sat in a treeless. lol I think I'd need a doctor after riding it on a fence... actually this is straight from Jackie and Tammi they even recommend you do it at their clinics And I've owned 10-12 treeless saddles 
Edited to add; I'm sorry if I offened you I did not mean for it to sound snarky, was writing what I was thinking would be funny.
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Okay... For what it's worth... I'm going to give you a little critique of your run.
I don't necessarily think you're behind. You actually ride her well. Here is what I see that could help you. Your seat looks a tad too small, your stirrups look a bit too short, and you are leaning forward in your run which is keeping your mare a little heavy on her front end. You are even leaning forward through your turns, which means you are not sitting up and using your legs and seat to urge your horse forward. When we lean forward we throw our horses on their front end which tends to slow down the motor in the turns as well as in our approach. That is how we lose that snappy turn around the barrels. Fix those little things and you can shave up to a half second off your runs.
edited to add... Your legs are too far forward in the saddle... That is why you are having trouble getting up out of it. If your legs were more in the correct riding position, under your hips, it would give you some leverage to push yourself up so you could be "lighter" in your saddle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz-R_eyj4Aw
That's a nice little horse, good luck!
Thanks. She is actually an exceedingly front endy horse. One I've mentioned before on another post. But in this video, for her, it's very engaged. I've thought about trying to get my feet behind me more through a turn to see if it would help. I have to use my legs to steer her through the first barrel, so it can be tricky for me to remember to keep my leg back, when I need it forward to push her over.
Gotta give me a break here. I'm working my butt of trying to regain my balance. Working through the week on reiners, equitation, and horsemanship... This is MY first run in almost 2 years. Second time going through the barrel pattern in this saddle. I'm struggling and working hard every single day to get back into any kind of shape. I think the majority of the run is just me reverting to whatever muscle memory I have from before, which is of course flawed. I didn't feel like I was too forward in the saddle... I felt like I was just struggling to stay forward. The saddle feels good, as far as size. It's a 16in seat, and I typically ride in a 15.5in treed saddle. Been told several times that shorter stirrups is necessary for these saddles. They are just a smidge MAYBE shorter than typical stirrup length. I've never ridden in one prior, so I'm really just trying to figure out the perfect configuration that works for me.
I know after the second, especially, I got left behind... probably a few strides behind her and didn't ride her appropriately and push her through the third barrel, she got dumped on the front end. But its truly because I wasn't there to do my job. She just turned it without a rider. When I ride in and get her hip pushed in, she can rip around one. I just have to help her. So frustrating... even with these mistakes, she placed in the 1D for her first race back. There will be mistakes, but I don't think critiquing the heck out of a first run is going to do much good. Especially after I've torn through it for days by now. lol But I do appreciate the perspective from the outside, in. lol I've never had anyone tell me to sit deeper and get my body back before. I'm usually the one who is yelled at to "jockey"...
When ladies come to the clinic, one of the biggest issues we see is people leaning too far forward. They think that it helps propel their horse forward, but it really doesn't. It is especially detrimental when you have a horse that is already heavy on the front end. It animates the problem even more. I grew up in the cutting horse industry and you are taught to sit deep, push those legs forward and stay out of the way, it was a difficult adjustment when I started barrel racing twenty years ago. I'm sure you'll get it worked out.
In the video I posted, I'm in a treeless saddle. I have never actually had an issue getting up out of my saddle when necessary, though I hear that complaint a lot. Try to remember that it isn't about "staying forward" as much as it is about finding what I call the "sweet spot". You are right with your horse, maybe 1/2 a stride ahead, staying engaged yet out of their way. It's like water skiing... if you fight the pull of the boat or lean too far back or too far forward, your going to have a pretty uncomfortable ride across that wake, not to mention a better chance of crashing and burning, but if you get those knees bent just a bit, keep your feet just below your hips, and relax... you can use the energy from the boat to carry you across the wake without a hitch. ;)
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-15 11:20 AM CallMeSkidmark - 2015-06-15 8:41 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-06-14 6:34 PM astreakinchic - 2015-06-14 5:59 PM There really is no thing as a seat too big. A bigger seat will only help you sit deeper in the turns. Why do you think cutting ppl ride those big ol 16 in saddles? Most barrel ppl ride a saddle thats too small and too high a back that throws them forward in the turns and they have no idea it causes them to be off balance because they can't sit deep and stay balanced and with their horses in the turns. BUT i will say there are some girls those style of riding requires them to stay forward and some horses bottom line with not clock and work if not constantly pushed by a rider that stays forward and pushes on them however awkward that may look. Case in point Sarah and bling or the old team of Brian and Peaches. Google pics I'm too lazy to resize and post. Everyone has a different style and so does the horse...it'll work for some but not for others. Some ppl want a bob marshall saddle to help them stay with a horse that "bends into" or is "snakey" in the turns. I usually just sale that kinda horse LOL 99% of the time getting behind is caused by not being balanced in the turns and usually thats just a seat/confidence problem. Best exercise is to ride. Lope lots and lots of circles without depending on the reins to balance. Have someone lounge your horse and use one hand to hold the horn if you must, eventually you want to focus on not touching anything. Youtube a reiner or stacy westfall (a bride less run) and watch them...they have their hands up for balance to help but they are completely out of that horses mouth balancing on their own. Another one I've seen is setting your saddle up on a fence and you practicing like its a run and starfishes and kicking to win the world. It'll teach you balance or the fence with dump you LOL Now that would be a funny video watching someone riding the fence, LOL I guess she's never sat in a treeless. lol I think I'd need a doctor after riding it on a fence... actually this is straight from Jackie and Tammi they even recommend you do it at their clinics And I've owned 10-12 treeless saddles
Edited to add; I'm sorry if I offened you I did not mean for it to sound snarky, was writing what I was thinking would be funny.
NO NO your fine! I never get my panties in a twist! LOL
I post quick, short, and from my phone...i should put a disclaimer on here I guess LOL
I've never done the fence riding thing myself but I've seen ppl do it religiously and it helped their balance. Also, it helped this one girl learn to whip after riding free runners she bought a push style and the fence riding helped her practice without blowing up or putting undo stress on her horse.
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