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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Do you have a picture of the horse you are trying to find? I'm around the Dallas area and can keep my eyes open. |
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Location: Texas | MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM
BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT
So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
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Location: The edge of no where | grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
I am. Doing the research and pricing your horse at what the market will bear is your responsibility. I am NOT condoning any dishonesty, the broker needs to be aware of and disclose any issues the horse might have to the buyers.... but yes, if I tell someone I want a certain dollar amount and they're able to sell for more, then they're entitled to pocket whatever they've made. Call it the price of connections. I don't care. |
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| MS2011 - 2015-07-15 1:33 PM
grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
That is what commission on the horse is for. They take a certain percentage off of what the owner says that they want to sell the horse for. If they say $50k and the broker says they keep 20% of the sale price then they should be getting $10k. Not $30k if they jack up the price to $80k (They should be getting $16k then). |
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| The broker works for you and has no authority to raise the price without consent from the owner in my eyes! Bad business!! |
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| grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
I agree with you Joy, I would not want to business with someone who did not have the integrity to tell me you have your horse priced too low, I can get more than what you are asking. It is up to the seller to then decide if they are good getting X amount and broker gets anything above it or price the horse higher and broker gets a comission. |
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Location: NE Texas | Kaycee - 2015-07-15 4:11 PM
ORD, post some pics of her for those of us around DFW.
Yes... pics will help. I'm at a show somewheres just about every weekend. |
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Location: Texas | Thank you to everyone who is willing to help... This has left my little sister devastated and I know if we could just be reassured she went to a good home(im sure did, but you never know) it would be a much more peaceful situation. |
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Location: Texas | outrundaizy - 2015-07-15 4:55 PM
These were on her sale ad so most recent I have.
She is tooooo cute! Have you posted pics on FB? Unless someone just bought her as a pet, I'm sure that if somebody saw her they would recognize her. Good luck!
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Location: Where I am happiest | I need to ask. Was this horse sold for more then $1000 ???? A palamino paint mare was listed on auction horses south facebook page or the page for Kaufman last week but if she sold for more then $1000 then no worries. |
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Thank you to everyone who is willing to help... This has left my little sister devastated and I know if we could just be reassured she went to a good home(im sure did, but you never know) it would be a much more peaceful situation.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Tatum2 - 2015-07-15 1:44 PM
MS2011 - 2015-07-15 1:33 PM
grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
That is what commission on the horse is for. They take a certain percentage off of what the owner says that they want to sell the horse for. If they say $50k and the broker says they keep 20% of the sale price then they should be getting $10k. Not $30k if they jack up the price to $80k (They should be getting $16k then ).
Well this is silly. I'm a broker and you bring a horse with a 10k price tag with me getting 20%. So I buy the horse from you for 8k, someone comes along and offers me 15k for it. Who gets the other 7k?
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Location: Texas | komet. - 2015-07-15 9:26 PM Tatum2 - 2015-07-15 1:44 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 1:33 PM grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious. That is what commission on the horse is for. They take a certain percentage off of what the owner says that they want to sell the horse for. If they say $50k and the broker says they keep 20% of the sale price then they should be getting $10k. Not $30k if they jack up the price to $80k (They should be getting $16k then ). Well this is silly. I'm a broker and you bring a horse with a 10k price tag with me getting 20%. So I buy the horse from you for 8k, someone comes along and offers me 15k for it. Who gets the other 7k?
I think that depends how the contract is, if the said broker is buying the horse and reselling then they are free to do as they please with the horse. If you are just contracted to sell the horse for the owner then you would make your commission and anymore would most likely be against the contract.
& yes the horse was sold for more than $1000, Im not too worried about her going to an auction, at least not right now. She was a good deal but not cheap. I'm just afraid if she gets in the wrong hands things might head south fast. I would not have sold her to a child that wasn't extremely confident because I think that's where things went wrong with her for us. And from what I understand she was sold to a young girl. It all just worries me, I know it's out of my control now, but you don't get into horses to make money or because the blood, sweat, and tears are fun, you do it because you love the animals. |
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Location: Texas | komet. - 2015-07-15 9:26 PM
Tatum2 - 2015-07-15 1:44 PM
MS2011 - 2015-07-15 1:33 PM
grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
That is what commission on the horse is for. They take a certain percentage off of what the owner says that they want to sell the horse for. If they say $50k and the broker says they keep 20% of the sale price then they should be getting $10k. Not $30k if they jack up the price to $80k (They should be getting $16k then ).
Well this is silly. I'm a broker and you bring a horse with a 10k price tag with me getting 20%. So I buy the horse from you for 8k, someone comes along and offers me 15k for it. Who gets the other 7k?
If you want to dish out the cash and assume all risk then more power to you. You can sell that horse for whatever price you want... It's your horse.
It would of course, be unethical for you to purchase the horse after the owner has come to you to sell the horse and you know that there is a buyer.
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