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quikchik
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2015-07-15 10:55 AM
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I think she's cute, and I hope she turns out to be a great find for you. I'd have given it a shot too.
Did the vet check her teeth to estimate age? At least she has some markings you could use to try to match up.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-15 11:01 AM
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Good luck wth her!   I would have given her a chance too. 
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ThreeCorners
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OK, sooooo the 2011 & 12 video's  only showed those riding so if she's 4 she wouldnt be under saddle yet and no, no match for her.The first video horse of the 2011 looked really really close, but I couldnt tell if that horse had the short right front sock? That would put her 6 though.  The 2012 catalog I didnt find a match. The sale results show no pictures to match her to. So still looking for the 2011 sale catalog, and the 2013 sale catalog. I'm just trying to match her white markings to whatever pic's.
 Someone knows this horse! Someone's Mom, aunt, brother, sister, neighbor or friend used to own this horse.

 
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-07-15 12:48 PM
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Very interesting I hope you find her history. 
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TurnLane
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-07-15 3:22 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2015-07-15 10:43 AM

 Frankly, I dont care why or how she ended up in the situation she was in. It is always a gamble whether your buying a prospect, or one out of the kill pen. She's only 4 years old. The only way to eleminate most of the gamble is to buy a finished going horse. I also dont know ANYBODY who doesnt like a "Deal" and we thought she was worth the gamble. We are also willing to pay for the papers as I stated above, but we have to find out WHO she is to even get that far. We will find out WHAT she is when we get her home.

I totally agree but I think for the money, they may not want her to have papers. And since you were willing to take the risk, I wouldn't think it mattered who she was exactly. If you see a good prospect, papers shouldn't be an issue. For instance, they may not want bad genetics to be passed on- so they pulled the papers since she is a mare? Because who wouldn't want a FG mare for cheap and want to breed her if she didn't ride? That's all I am trying to say. I have seen it personally.

But to join in on the bandwagon-I still wish you well with your hunt.
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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-07-15 3:34 PM
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I am no help but just wanted to say thank you for saving her! I hope you find out who she is and she ends up rocking it for you! There are ALOT of GOOD horses that are at auctions/kill sales etc through no fault of their own. They aren't all there because they are junk.
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total performance
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-07-15 3:46 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2015-07-15 12:28 PM OK, sooooo the 2011 & 12 video's  only showed those riding so if she's 4 she wouldnt be under saddle yet and no, no match for her.The first video horse of the 2011 looked really really close, but I couldnt tell if that horse had the short right front sock? That would put her 6 though.  The 2012 catalog I didnt find a match. The sale results show no pictures to match her to. So still looking for the 2011 sale catalog, and the 2013 sale catalog. I'm just trying to match her white markings to whatever pic's.

 Someone knows this horse! Someone's Mom, aunt, brother, sister, neighbor or friend used to own this horse.


 

What about getting some close up pics of her and the brand and sending them to Fulton Ranch.  Maybe that will jog their memory a bit.  I've been lookin, but haven't found anything yet either.  
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-07-15 5:21 PM
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I looked at the 2013 sale results: http://www.fultonhorsesale.com/2013%20Fulton%20Performance%20Horse%...

I then cross referenced with google and fb. I found pictures and/or descriptions of all horses consigned by Fulton and no matches.

ETA: Checked these too http://www.fultonranch.com/fultonSaleResults.htm

Checked these also http://www.fultonhorsesale.com/HorseSale2012Results.pdf

(really thought I had one for a minute.... so close)

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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-07-15 5:38 PM
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they do embryo transfer  she could be a recipent mare?
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ThreeCorners
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Posted 2015-07-15 7:37 PM
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kwanatha - 2015-07-15 5:38 PM they do embryo transfer  she could be a recipent mare?

I'm not thinking they would put their brand on a recipient mare.
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ThreeCorners
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Posted 2015-07-15 7:41 PM
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stayceem - 2015-07-15 5:21 PM I looked at the 2013 sale results: http://www.fultonhorsesale.com/2013%20Fulton%20Performance%20Horse%... I then cross referenced with google and fb. I found pictures and/or descriptions of all horses consigned by Fulton and no matches. ETA: Checked these too http://www.fultonranch.com/fultonSaleResults.htm Checked these also http://www.fultonhorsesale.com/HorseSale2012Results.pdf (really thought I had one for a minute.... so close)

Thankyou so much!!   Thats a really good idea how to cross reference!!  I have found a couple that are sooooooooooooooooo close also. We wont be able to get better pics untill she gets home.
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ThreeCorners
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total performance - 2015-07-15 3:46 PM
ThreeCorners - 2015-07-15 12:28 PM OK, sooooo the 2011 & 12 video's  only showed those riding so if she's 4 she wouldnt be under saddle yet and no, no match for her.The first video horse of the 2011 looked really really close, but I couldnt tell if that horse had the short right front sock? That would put her 6 though.  The 2012 catalog I didnt find a match. The sale results show no pictures to match her to. So still looking for the 2011 sale catalog, and the 2013 sale catalog. I'm just trying to match her white markings to whatever pic's.

 Someone knows this horse! Someone's Mom, aunt, brother, sister, neighbor or friend used to own this horse.


 
What about getting some close up pics of her and the brand and sending them to Fulton Ranch.  Maybe that will jog their memory a bit.  I've been lookin, but haven't found anything yet either.  

Yes,when we get her home we will be able to get better pics.  Thankyou so much for your help.
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moapajetrider
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Posted 2015-07-15 8:19 PM
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 Three Corners call AQHA and order a DNA kit. That would at least give you her daddy and maybe mom.  Ive been told its possible.
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missroselee
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-07-15 9:29 PM
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moapajetrider - 2015-07-15 9:19 PM  Three Corners call AQHA and order a DNA kit. That would at least give you her daddy and maybe mom.  Ive been told its possible.

That's what I was going to ask.  If using DNA was a possibility at all.... 
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cheryl makofka
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Posted 2015-07-15 9:33 PM
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moapajetrider - 2015-07-15 8:19 PM

 Three Corners call AQHA and order a DNA kit. That would at least give you her daddy and maybe mom.  Ive been told its possible.

Not necessarily

You have to test against the sire and dam,

For example you would parantage verify

Streak of fling as the sire and firewater fiesta as the dam

If it comes back as negative, for either/or then you have to do it over again with a different sire, and/or dam
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-15 9:35 PM
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missroselee - 2015-07-15 9:29 PM

moapajetrider - 2015-07-15 9:19 PM  Three Corners call AQHA and order a DNA kit. That would at least give you her daddy and maybe mom.  Ive been told its possible.

That's what I was going to ask.  If using DNA was a possibility at all.... 

I understand they will not search the entire database for a match. But if you can present a list with a limited number of possible stallions they might work with you.
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redrodeo20
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2015-07-15 9:38 PM
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I don't have anything constructive to ad either but I just wanted to wish you good luck! I am also searching for history on a horse i bought from Bowie! He also has a brand but its not a ranch brand so I can't even remotely figure out where he came from. :(
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cheryl makofka
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Posted 2015-07-15 9:54 PM
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komet. - 2015-07-15 9:35 PM

missroselee - 2015-07-15 9:29 PM

moapajetrider - 2015-07-15 9:19 PM  Three Corners call AQHA and order a DNA kit. That would at least give you her daddy and maybe mom.  Ive been told its possible.

That's what I was going to ask.  If using DNA was a possibility at all.... 

I understand they will not search the entire database for a match. But if you can present a list with a limited number of possible stallions they might work with you.

Sadly IMO experience they don't, you have to pay for them to check each sire dam combination
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ThreeCorners
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Posted 2015-07-15 11:53 PM
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Well, she would most likely only be by either ASOF or CS. Seo doing DNA matches from there should be fairly easy. But matching the mares? Holy Smokes.  Is that possable? Will AQHA do that?
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ThreeCorners
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Posted 2015-07-15 11:56 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2015-07-15 9:33 PM
moapajetrider - 2015-07-15 8:19 PM  Three Corners call AQHA and order a DNA kit. That would at least give you her daddy and maybe mom.  Ive been told its possible.
Not necessarily You have to test against the sire and dam, For example you would parantage verify Streak of fling as the sire and firewater fiesta as the dam If it comes back as negative, for either/or then you have to do it over again with a different sire, and/or dam

If it is not a match with whatever sire/dam you list, will they at least verify to you if the stallion is correct? 
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