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    Location: MD | Herbie, what grain do you feed with Cur Ost? I would imagine that you would have to feed something to compliment the supplement for risk of being counter productive? | |
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      Location: NE Texas | CE's wrapn3 - 2015-08-14 9:47 AM Herbie, what grain do you feed with Cur Ost? I would imagine that you would have to feed something to compliment the supplement for risk of being counter productive?
I feed about 1 - 1 1/2 pounds of whole oats once daily with about a half cup of BOSS with alfalfa hay, two flakes, in the evenings. My horses are in the pasture during the day, so they eat what little grass we have out there. Once the grass is gone, i will increase the alfalfa to be fed in the mornings also.
Through this process I have learned how anything artificial, even added vitamins and minerals such as calcium, magnesium, etc., affect the hindgut and can contribute to the inflammatory process, so I count on everything my horse gets to come from my whole grains, my forage, or the Cur-Ost. I don't want my horses consuming anything that isn't a whole food source.
I've learned that in reading labels, if you see calcium, phosphorous, magnesium, etc. on the ingredient list, these are symthetic forms of these vitamins and or minerals. I want my horse getting the daily requirements of everything they need through natural sources of these, primarily good quality forage. | |
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    Location: MD | Herbie - 2015-08-14 10:14 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2015-08-14 9:47 AM Herbie, what grain do you feed with Cur Ost? I would imagine that you would have to feed something to compliment the supplement for risk of being counter productive? I feed about 1 - 1 1/2 pounds of whole oats once daily with about a half cup of BOSS with alfalfa hay, two flakes, in the evenings. My horses are in the pasture during the day, so they eat what little grass we have out there. Once the grass is gone, i will increase the alfalfa to be fed in the mornings also.
Through this process I have learned how anything artificial, even added vitamins and minerals such as calcium, magnesium, etc., affect the hindgut and can contribute to the inflammatory process, so I count on everything my horse gets to come from my whole grains, my forage, or the Cur-Ost. I don't want my horses consuming anything that isn't a whole food source.
I've learned that in reading labels, if you see calcium, phosphorous, magnesium, etc. on the ingredient list, these are symthetic forms of these vitamins and or minerals. I want my horse getting the daily requirements of everything they need through natural sources of these, primarily good quality forage.
I am thinking about starting my 5 yr old on it she doesn't have any known issues but I love the Cur Ost Green product. Do you use that on your non issue horses? | |
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  Whack and Roll
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      Location: NE Texas | Yes, I think the Green would be the right product for her. Flitastic is using the Green on a young horse that doesn't have any known issues and really liking it. | |
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      Location: Willows, CA | We have customers feeding this line with Renew Gold with very good results. On the whole grains vs synthetic processed issues I would like to add that the ingredients in Renew Gold are all natural with no synthetic additions. Vitamins and minerals in Renew Gold are naturally occurring, not added. Also, those ingredients are non-gmo and could be labeled organic if it were not for the coconut meal that is organically grown but lacks certification due to the issue getting that paperwork done from all the small independent coconut growers who supply the two processing plants that we exclusively source that ingredient from. | |
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    Location: California | I have switched mine over to alfalfa pellets and oats, I'm praying to be able to afford the Total Support for my mare soon! I think it will help her greatly. I plan on contacting them about each of my other horses as well to figure out which is best for each of them! | |
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| Herbie - 2015-08-14 8:28 AM
Yes, I think the Green would be the right product for her. Flitastic is using the Green on a young horse that doesn't have any known issues and really liking it.
Yep the Green is doing awesome on my colt with no real known issues. My allergy arthritic horse is doing awesome on the total support. Total support is very expensive so i am hoping to be able to dropping him back to the green or another formula. Just started my colt on to adapt and calm to. | |
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                      Location: Here | Herbie - 2015-08-14 10:14 AM
CE's wrapn3 - 2015-08-14 9:47 AM Herbie, what grain do you feed with Cur Ost? I would imagine that you would have to feed something to compliment the supplement for risk of being counter productive?
I feed about 1 - 1 1/2 pounds of whole oats once daily with about a half cup of BOSS with alfalfa hay, two flakes, in the evenings. My horses are in the pasture during the day, so they eat what little grass we have out there. Once the grass is gone, i will increase the alfalfa to be fed in the mornings also.
Through this process I have learned how anything artificial, even added vitamins and minerals such as calcium, magnesium, etc., affect the hindgut and can contribute to the inflammatory process, so I count on everything my horse gets to come from my whole grains, my forage, or the Cur-Ost. I don't want my horses consuming anything that isn't a whole food source.
I've learned that in reading labels, if you see calcium, phosphorous, magnesium, etc. on the ingredient list, these are symthetic forms of these vitamins and or minerals. I want my horse getting the daily requirements of everything they need through natural sources of these, primarily good quality forage.
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| I also have to give a big THANK YOU to Herbie for her information in the previous post. I finally bit the bullet and ordered both the CurOst Total Support and Immune Repair. After one day (2 doses of each today) I have a whole new horse. Tonight, I was able to lope circles with her and she did not cough once and was not struggling to breathe. Every day that I have ridden her before today, she could not even make a half a circle at a lope before she had to stop and cough so hard and then be totally winded. I have tried everything with her also including allergy testing and shots and nothing has worked. I was very skeptical but I kept going back to the other post and finally tried it. I am usually very skeptical but, to me, this is nothing short of a miracle for this mare. Worth every penny and then some! | |
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      Location: NE Texas | goldmineranch - 2015-08-19 9:33 PM I also have to give a big THANK YOU to Herbie for her information in the previous post. I finally bit the bullet and ordered both the CurOst Total Support and Immune Repair. After one day (2 doses of each today) I have a whole new horse. Tonight, I was able to lope circles with her and she did not cough once and was not struggling to breathe. Every day that I have ridden her before today, she could not even make a half a circle at a lope before she had to stop and cough so hard and then be totally winded. I have tried everything with her also including allergy testing and shots and nothing has worked. I was very skeptical but I kept going back to the other post and finally tried it. I am usually very skeptical but, to me, this is nothing short of a miracle for this mare. Worth every penny and then some!
Just wait, goldmineranch, this is just the beginning! Be aware that she may cough a bit more as the mucous and plegm loosens, this is a good thing, as she NEEDS to cough it up. There are years of build up of contaminants and mucous in the lungs, and it takes a little while to get it all back on track. My horse has been on the product now since the first of April and he coughed alot the first 30 days. He will still cough occasionally, very occasionally, but given the dry conditions we have and how dusty it is, not to mention how sick my horse was when I started this process, i'll take it! The biggest change i've noticed in the last 30 days in his recovery rate. It used to take forever for his breathing to return to normal even after a small exercise session. Now after about 10 mins of walking, he's cooled out and his repiratory rate has returned to normal. Thank God for Dr. Schell and this company! | |
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                      Location: Here | I started Serp and Linds on it the Immune last night This morning (yes it was raining) but it still doesn't matter with Serp, at most she would jog up to the feed tub, this morning she came RUNNING
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| Thanks to Herbie, not only is my horse feeling better, but so am I. This has been a very interesting journey for me. Observing the differences in me and my horse has been educational to say the least. I have noticed a ton of difference in myself. Every day I feel something different. The healing process is really fascinating. I can only imagine what my horse is feeling. Based on what I am feeling, everyone please remember that your horse may have some very small setbacks, but know that that is ALL they are. I don't even think setback is the right word. I sometimes feel my allergies starting up but in a day or two I realize I am actually feeling better and the allergies are less. It is kind of like the tide - an ebb and flow. One thing gets better and then something else is a little more noticeable, but then it goes away, too. Sorry I am not explaining this well. But it is amazing. | |
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     Location: Lala Land | Herbie...you are just awesome!! I thank you very much for all of the information you sent on this board and to my email. I had just purchased a different supplement for breathing that has really helped, but in the humidity is not enough. I have recently been in contact with Dr. Schell and will get my baby started on the Total and Immune as soon as this other expensive product is used up. I also ordered the immune for myself and it should be here this week. Excited is not the word for how I feel to possibly have actual help and not just band-aids for him. :) Thank you!!
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  Whack and Roll
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      Location: NE Texas | I'm so happy to hear about everyone who is having such great results. I have described this as a miracle for my horse, and even that doesn't do it justice. I've always been a huge supplement skeptic and through the years I have tried them all with very minimal change. I too was skeptical to try YET ANOTER product, but I was truly at the point where I had nothing to lose and this was a last resort before having to make a really tough decision. So glad I tried this program, so glad I have been able to share my results, and so happy others are taking the same leap of faith I did. I know these results we are all posting sound too good to be true, but they are legitimately that dramatic.
I tell people that I know I sound like a late-night infomercial, but it's only because I hear people who have been through so much more than even I had with their horses.....people who have literally spent more than they paid for their horse trying to get them sound or figure out issues that are undiagnoseable. I BEG them to try this product. I don't even call it a supplement anymore, as I can't even describe it as such. If I were rich, I would give every person a bag of this who posts about horses who have chronic ulcers, torn or strained suspensaries, chronic pain in hocks/stifles/SI's. I've heard about so many horses who I hope their owners will give this a chance. Lots of horses out there that people have given up on that I hope to see back in the arena soon!
Don't forget to use the forum for questions directly to Dr. Schell. I know I have shared my story hundreds of times via private messages and now I have gotten lazy and copy and paste it. If we can use the forum to discuss any questions and issues with our horses, i'm sure it will save him some time answering the same questions over and over via email. The forum gives us the opportunity to learn from each other's issues we have with our horses and to share the experiences of what we have tried and let Dr. Schell guide us to the best way to treat. There is currenlty an office hours discussion on lameness exams and if anyone hasn't read the office hours discussion on "Concepts of Inflammation" they need to, as it will put things into perspective about how an improper inflammatory response affects every part of our horse. Great read! https://secondvet.com/index.php/forum/equine
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                      Location: Here | Herbie - 2015-08-20 12:28 PM I'm so happy to hear about everyone who is having such great results. I have described this as a miracle for my horse, and even that doesn't do it justice. I've always been a huge supplement skeptic and through the years I have tried them all with very minimal change. I too was skeptical to try YET ANOTER product, but I was truly at the point where I had nothing to lose and this was a last resort before having to make a really tough decision. So glad I tried this program, so glad I have been able to share my results, and so happy others are taking the same leap of faith I did. I know these results we are all posting sound too good to be true, but they are legitimately that dramatic.
I tell people that I know I sound like a late-night infomercial, but it's only because I hear people who have been through so much more than even I had with their horses.....people who have literally spent more than they paid for their horse trying to get them sound or figure out issues that are undiagnoseable. I BEG them to try this product. I don't even call it a supplement anymore, as I can't even describe it as such. If I were rich, I would give every person a bag of this who posts about horses who have chronic ulcers, torn or strained suspensaries, chronic pain in hocks/stifles/SI's. I've heard about so many horses who I hope their owners will give this a chance. Lots of horses out there that people have given up on that I hope to see back in the arena soon!
Don't forget to use the forum for questions directly to Dr. Schell. I know I have shared my story hundreds of times via private messages and now I have gotten lazy and copy and paste it. If we can use the forum to discuss any questions and issues with our horses, i'm sure it will save him some time answering the same questions over and over via email. The forum gives us the opportunity to learn from each other's issues we have with our horses and to share the experiences of what we have tried and let Dr. Schell guide us to the best way to treat. There is currenlty an office hours discussion on lameness exams and if anyone hasn't read the office hours discussion on "Concepts of Inflammation" they need to, as it will put things into perspective about how an improper inflammatory response affects every part of our horse. Great read! https://secondvet.com/index.php/forum/equine
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           Location: Kansas | what is curost? | |
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                      Location: Here | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-20 3:08 PM what is curost?
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  Whack and Roll
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      Location: NE Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-20 3:08 PM what is curost? Hoofs, it is an herbal supplement designed around specific herbs that promote a healthy inflammatory response beginning in the gut. I'd encourage you to read the Office Hours post "Grasping the Concepts of Inflammtion" on the forum at https://www.secondvet.com/index.php/forum/equine. This discussion gives us a better understanding of how an improper inflammatory repsonse affects the entire body, both ours and our horses. You can search my posts and see what I have been through with my horse in particular and what this product has done for him. The results far exceed even my wildest expectations, and literally saved this horse's life. I set out to get his respiratory issues under control and what I saw after 30 days was a completley different horse all the way around. No more ulcer meds, joint meds, breathing meds, pro/pre-biotics....just Cur-Ost. Now others are seeing the same results I did in the improvement of the respiratory conditions, and they are less than two weeks in. Saying this is a "feed supplement" isn't even fair, as it's so much more than that. I'm so happy I took a chance and tried this. I was very skeptical, and others were too when I started sharing my experiences, but seeing is believing!
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