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Location: OH | I am confused--if you are willing to spend 25-30,000 on a horse, and this horse fits the bill and you like it, Why is it overpriced ??????? I'd quit listening to your friends opinion and go with your own gut. |
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Location: Texas | barrelracr131 - 2015-08-19 6:27 AM Make an offer and leave it at that. Running down the horse to get a lower price on a horse just makes folks angry and will not help you get the horse for less.
I had to fix this because my first post made no sense lol
This. I was selling a very nice Boxer about 10 years ago. I had some people interested, well they called me back and told me that they found a better dog because of this and this for cheaper... then they wanted me to come down on my price. It really just made me mad. I told them if the dog is so much better and cheaper I didn't even know why they were trying to get me to come down on my price. They called that night wanting to pay full price for my dog and I was so mad that they tried to run her down to get a cheaper price that I wouldn't sell to them. She sold the same week to someone else for my asking price, and had a great home.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | When I was shopping a few years ago, I tried one that was in my price range and I really liked him, but after running him a couple of times and looking up his recent results, I thought he was priced a little high for what he was at that point in time. I offered the owner more than what I thought he was worth but less than they were asking, owner declined my offer, I walked away and kept looking. Try the horse and decide for yourself if it's worth the asking price. "Your friend said" or "I heard" is not a negotiating point. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I have people tell me all the time that my horses are too high. I tell that they sell, so someone must think they're priced right. I agree with Three Corners that the market will determine the value. But if you wait around to see whether or not she sells at that price, you can also miss out on the perfect horse because someone else MAY be willing to pay what she's priced. When I am looking, I ask the buyer in the very first email I send if the price is negotiable. If they say no and I think they're overpriced, I don't ask for anything else. I CERTAINLY don't waste their time or their horse by trying it. If they say they will consider offers, then I might go try the horse and if I liked it, make an offer. However, I am always prepared to buy the horse if they accept my offer. I have sold higher priced horses for $10K less than they were priced if I thought it was the right home and the right buyer and have made some lifelong friends as a result. I usually don't get offended at offers, but everyone is different. What makes me boiling mad is when someone makes an offer, I accept, and then they don't buy the horse. Don't make an offer if you're not willing to buy, and NEVER say the horse is overpriced. Just say you can only spend X amount of dollars, and would they take that? You'd be surprised how many will. But also don't be disappointed if someone doesn't want to sell their really nice horse for less than they have it priced. |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | dianeguinn - 2015-08-19 10:31 AM
I have people tell me all the time that my horses are too high. I tell that they sell, so someone must think they're priced right. I agree with Three Corners that the market will determine the value. But if you wait around to see whether or not she sells at that price, you can also miss out on the perfect horse because someone else MAY be willing to pay what she's priced. When I am looking, I ask the buyer in the very first email I send if the price is negotiable. If they say no and I think they're overpriced, I don't ask for anything else. I CERTAINLY don't waste their time or their horse by trying it. If they say they will consider offers, then I might go try the horse and if I liked it, make an offer. However, I am always prepared to buy the horse if they accept my offer. I have sold higher priced horses for $10K less than they were priced if I thought it was the right home and the right buyer and have made some lifelong friends as a result. I usually don't get offended at offers, but everyone is different. What makes me boiling mad is when someone makes an offer, I accept, and then they don't buy the horse. Don't make an offer if you're not willing to buy, and NEVER say the horse is overpriced. Just say you can only spend X amount of dollars, and would they take that? You'd be surprised how many will. But also don't be disappointed if someone doesn't want to sell their really nice horse for less than they have it priced.
Totally agree with Diane. She had a gelding for sale back in December and I told my sister to go buy that horse. Don't even flinch on the price because I just knew the price was going to go up... Well I didn't need another horse at the time but I would have loved to have that gelding. Sister hem hawed around and was going to wait til after Xmas. All the while I was wanting to go get that horse. Well the price did go up and the horse was worth it but then out of my range with all my vet bills. If you like something and have the money go get it NOW or you will regret it. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Just don't buy it.
If you want the horse but don't want to pay what they're asking, then you need to talk to them BEFORE you waste their time trying the horse to see if they'll come down. Tell them what your top dollar is and if they want to let it go for that, they'll let you try it. Do not waste their time by trying it without talking price first. It's rude.
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| If anyone blatantly told me my horse was overpriced by $10,000 I would send them walking. And that is to put it kindly. |
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| Many sellers will drop a price if they feel the rider/home is a good fit. I'd be honest about what you're willing to spend. But I agree with the statement, that if the horse is fitting your criteria, why isn't it worth the asking price? |
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Location: California | But WHY do they say she is over priced? Not a true 1D? There is so much time, money and training putting into horses. If someone like Sherry Cervi patterened her, but her record was still the same, does that magically make her worth more money? I need to understand why your "friends" say she is over priced before I can give an honest answer to the situation.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | MS2011 - 2015-08-19 10:44 AM Just don't buy it.
If you want the horse but don't want to pay what they're asking, then you need to talk to them BEFORE you waste their time trying the horse to see if they'll come down. Tell them what your top dollar is and if they want to let it go for that, they'll let you try it. Do not waste their time by trying it without talking price first. It's rude.
The way I understood it is she COULD pay asking, but people were telling her the horse is worth less. I don't see how you can decide that without looking for yourself.
I absolutely won't look at one that is over my budget without talking to sellers about that first. |
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Lady Di
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Location: Oklahoma | mreklaw - 2015-08-19 10:42 AM
dianeguinn - 2015-08-19 10:31 AM
I have people tell me all the time that my horses are too high. I tell that they sell, so someone must think they're priced right. I agree with Three Corners that the market will determine the value. But if you wait around to see whether or not she sells at that price, you can also miss out on the perfect horse because someone else MAY be willing to pay what she's priced. When I am looking, I ask the buyer in the very first email I send if the price is negotiable. If they say no and I think they're overpriced, I don't ask for anything else. I CERTAINLY don't waste their time or their horse by trying it. If they say they will consider offers, then I might go try the horse and if I liked it, make an offer. However, I am always prepared to buy the horse if they accept my offer. I have sold higher priced horses for $10K less than they were priced if I thought it was the right home and the right buyer and have made some lifelong friends as a result. I usually don't get offended at offers, but everyone is different. What makes me boiling mad is when someone makes an offer, I accept, and then they don't buy the horse. Don't make an offer if you're not willing to buy, and NEVER say the horse is overpriced. Just say you can only spend X amount of dollars, and would they take that? You'd be surprised how many will. But also don't be disappointed if someone doesn't want to sell their really nice horse for less than they have it priced.
Totally agree with Diane. She had a gelding for sale back in December and I told my sister to go buy that horse. Don't even flinch on the price because I just knew the price was going to go up... Well I didn't need another horse at the time but I would have loved to have that gelding. Sister hem hawed around and was going to wait til after Xmas. All the while I was wanting to go get that horse. Well the price did go up and the horse was worth it but then out of my range with all my vet bills. If you like something and have the money go get it NOW or you will regret it.
Lol, mreklaw. I have another one that someone is going to get worth the money because he just doesn't fit me (cough* see my signature* cough). He's a nice horse; just not what I like to ride. He's very negotiable because I'm having to spend money to have someone ride him, so I'd rather sell him cheaper and cut my losses than keep paying someone to ride him. ;) Someone who fits him will think they're getting a whale of a bargain because he's nice. I sold one for $10K (which was exactly what I was asking for him) in January when I desperately needed to sell a horse, and I'm getting reports that he's running at the top of the 1D now every week in N. TX.....it's amazing what I'll take for a nice horse if I need the money!!! You never know a seller's situation, so it never hurts to ask. Just be aware, they may get offended and then not sell you the horse. I don't get offended. I just appreciate that someone likes my horses enough to make an offer. If I can't take it, I say no and go on to the next buyer. ;)
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Location: Beggs, OK | One of the keys to keeping friends is to never discuss finances with them. Some people don't need that much information to use against you. There are people who will pretend to be your friend in order to gain access to the information that you possess, the people you know, or simply to figure out a reason to justify not liking you. It's amazing how many truly sick, twisted, and toxic people are out there.
Guidance is one thing...using resources to figure out whether a horse is what it's represented to be is another.. but, ultimately if the horse is a fit and you have the funds available then make the decision based on your own opinion. Prices are subjective and you more than likely aren't going to be making a living running a $25k horse, buy one that's fun, even if it's a little overpriced. |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | 20-25 down here will get you a decent 1top of the 2d for the area. The market is low down here. 10-15 for a 2-d, 8-6,500 for a 3d. And so on.
Oklahoma and other barrel racing states 20-25 will get you a 2-3d horse. But it's barrel horse country out there.
I have a lot of friends that send those horses to Oklahoma to get more money.
I have also seen people buy a 10,000.00 and not even make a grand on them in 5 years.
Also see people all the time take a 3,500.00 and turn around and in 2 years sell for 25,000.00 locally.
But they have proven themselves. Guess I'm just not that lucky! |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | dianeguinn - 2015-08-19 11:21 AM
mreklaw - 2015-08-19 10:42 AM
dianeguinn - 2015-08-19 10:31 AM
I have people tell me all the time that my horses are too high. I tell that they sell, so someone must think they're priced right. I agree with Three Corners that the market will determine the value. But if you wait around to see whether or not she sells at that price, you can also miss out on the perfect horse because someone else MAY be willing to pay what she's priced. When I am looking, I ask the buyer in the very first email I send if the price is negotiable. If they say no and I think they're overpriced, I don't ask for anything else. I CERTAINLY don't waste their time or their horse by trying it. If they say they will consider offers, then I might go try the horse and if I liked it, make an offer. However, I am always prepared to buy the horse if they accept my offer. I have sold higher priced horses for $10K less than they were priced if I thought it was the right home and the right buyer and have made some lifelong friends as a result. I usually don't get offended at offers, but everyone is different. What makes me boiling mad is when someone makes an offer, I accept, and then they don't buy the horse. Don't make an offer if you're not willing to buy, and NEVER say the horse is overpriced. Just say you can only spend X amount of dollars, and would they take that? You'd be surprised how many will. But also don't be disappointed if someone doesn't want to sell their really nice horse for less than they have it priced.
Totally agree with Diane. She had a gelding for sale back in December and I told my sister to go buy that horse. Don't even flinch on the price because I just knew the price was going to go up... Well I didn't need another horse at the time but I would have loved to have that gelding. Sister hem hawed around and was going to wait til after Xmas. All the while I was wanting to go get that horse. Well the price did go up and the horse was worth it but then out of my range with all my vet bills. If you like something and have the money go get it NOW or you will regret it.
Lol, mreklaw. I have another one that someone is going to get worth the money because he just doesn't fit me (cough* see my signature* cough ). He's a nice horse; just not what I like to ride. He's very negotiable because I'm having to spend money to have someone ride him, so I'd rather sell him cheaper and cut my losses than keep paying someone to ride him. ; ) Someone who fits him will think they're getting a whale of a bargain because he's nice. I sold one for $10K (which was exactly what I was asking for him ) in January when I desperately needed to sell a horse, and I'm getting reports that he's running at the top of the 1D now every week in N. TX.....it's amazing what I'll take for a nice horse if I need the money!!! You never know a seller's situation, so it never hurts to ask. Just be aware, they may get offended and then not sell you the horse. I don't get offended. I just appreciate that someone likes my horses enough to make an offer. If I can't take it, I say no and go on to the next buyer. ; )
Yes you always have some nice ones. I still want that Fame FlashnFlit guy. He looks like a very sweet ride. I look every now and then to see if you still have him. If I didn't have to borrow from my retirement to buy him I would drive up right now and give you the money. I usually don't haggle very much when I buy because I wont even go look if I think its not worth what they are asking. That's why I told my sis to just go buy him when you first had him listed. |
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Location: WI | I don't mind offers on my horse - even says MAKE OFFER!, lol! Rather than telling her what you think it is worth, say something like 'I'm really interested in your mare, but I would have $xx to spend - would you be willing to negotiate on the price?' |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-08-19 10:29 AM
One of the keys to keeping friends is to never discuss finances with them. Some people don't need that much information to use against you. There are people who will pretend to be your friend in order to gain access to the information that you possess, the people you know, or simply to figure out a reason to justify not liking you. It's amazing how many truly sick, twisted, and toxic people are out there.
Guidance is one thing...using resources to figure out whether a horse is what it's represented to be is another.. but, ultimately if the horse is a fit and you have the funds available then make the decision based on your own opinion. Prices are subjective and you more than likely aren't going to be making a living running a $25k horse, buy one that's fun, even if it's a little overpriced.
This is a very valid point. Also a lot of people say something is overpriced because they: A) want it themselves and can't afford it. B) they are trying to sell something themselves so they talk you out of the one you want in hopes you'll come to them instead. |
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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | IMO you don't.
It's the sellers right to put a pricetag on the horse. You don't have to buy the horse. Simple as that.
I remember when I bought my first horse, she was 18 years at that point, some people told me she was prices way too high.
But you know what, she tought me a bunch, and she kept me safe and took care of me. That, too me, was why she was well worth her asking price.
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Location: Beggs, OK | SKM - 2015-08-19 11:39 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-19 10:29 AM One of the keys to keeping friends is to never discuss finances with them. Some people don't need that much information to use against you. There are people who will pretend to be your friend in order to gain access to the information that you possess, the people you know, or simply to figure out a reason to justify not liking you. It's amazing how many truly sick, twisted, and toxic people are out there.
Guidance is one thing...using resources to figure out whether a horse is what it's represented to be is another.. but, ultimately if the horse is a fit and you have the funds available then make the decision based on your own opinion. Prices are subjective and you more than likely aren't going to be making a living running a $25k horse, buy one that's fun, even if it's a little overpriced. This is a very valid point. Also a lot of people say something is overpriced because they: A ) want it themselves and can't afford it. B ) they are trying to sell something themselves so they talk you out of the one you want in hopes you'll come to them instead.
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| First if its only worth 10k then it is NOT a 1D horse except at something local. Second if you like her buy her, if you were to ask me and tell me my horse is over priced I would tell you obviously not cause you still called on her....... making a reasonable offer would be the way to go, don't be a tire kicker. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | BBLO - 2015-08-19 12:42 PM First if its only worth 10k then it is NOT a 1D horse except at something local. Second if you like her buy her, if you were to ask me and tell me my horse is over priced I would tell you obviously not cause you still called on her....... making a reasonable offer would be the way to go, don't be a tire kicker.
She said the horse is $10k overpriced, not that she's priced at $10k. |
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