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                      Location: Here | winwillows - 2015-08-27 11:43 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-08-27 10:44 AM winwillows - 2015-08-27 8:20 AM Herbie - 2015-08-27 9:18 AM It is a very concentrated feed. I fed it for a few months before finding Cur-Ost and changing over to whole oats. I was feeding at least 4 lbs daily (split into 2 servings of course) and am now down to one pound of whole oats once daily to mix in my Cur-Ost, and my horse looks better than ever. Through this process, I have learned that healing the hind gut will allow for better nutrient absorption so that the horse is actually able to utilize what we're feeding them. My concern with most commercial feeds are the synthetic ingredients (vitamins/minerals) added to balance the ration. This is something I have learned over the process of the last several months as well. Through research, it is proven that synthetics actually contribute to leaky gut syndrome and hind gut issues.
Cut-Ost and one pound of Renew Gold, check teeth and you are good to go. No synthetic added ingredients. Very potent antioxidant support and upper GI tract help from coconut. We have a lot of horses going to this. Unfortunately Herbie and I had the same experience with Renew Gold. Just didnt work for us, but sure wish it had! My horses as well are on just very small amount of oats and curost and they look a million times better than they ever have on any feed with very little of anything other than good hay. You are right about good hay, or good hay support in the form of a cube like Cur-Ost and, more importantly, the horses ability to digest it. As we have discussed a number of times, there was something else going on with your horses and the shedding problem that you had at the time. We have not had that issue with Renew Gold in any other horses, ever, over four years and half a million bags fed. The fact that you had several horses that had the issue at the same time clearly points to something else going on at that time. There is no way to get anywhere near the nutritional support from a pound of oats that you get from a pound of the all natural ingredients used to make Renew Gold because of the higher digestible energy and the way it fits the horses digestive system. Now, I have nothing against oats at a small rate like that, and I use them in some of the diets that we do. My point was simply that boosting the base roughage quality with a very high quality cube in a horse that has proper mouth condition to comfortably chew them and their long hay, if used, along with RG fits the way a horse works inside. If your diet needs more than the recommended amount of renew gold to maintain condition and energy, there is either a lack of roughage quality, amount, or ability to digest it. Those issues are usually pretty easy to identify and fix. A cube like the Cur-Ost product can be a great way to address that, and I was simply saying that a lot of customers are using that combination and having a very positive result. The answer is never more and more Renew Gold. The answer is better natural use of the roughage part of the diet.
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winwillows - 2015-08-27 11:43 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-08-27 10:44 AM winwillows - 2015-08-27 8:20 AM Herbie - 2015-08-27 9:18 AM It is a very concentrated feed. I fed it for a few months before finding Cur-Ost and changing over to whole oats. I was feeding at least 4 lbs daily (split into 2 servings of course) and am now down to one pound of whole oats once daily to mix in my Cur-Ost, and my horse looks better than ever.   Through this process, I have learned that healing the hind gut will allow for better nutrient absorption so that the horse is actually able to utilize what we're feeding them. My concern with most commercial feeds are the synthetic ingredients (vitamins/minerals) added to balance the ration. This is something I have learned over the process of the last several months as well. Through research, it is proven that synthetics actually contribute to leaky gut syndrome and hind gut issues.Â
 Cut-Ost and one pound of Renew Gold, check teeth and you are good to go. No synthetic added ingredients. Very potent antioxidant support and upper GI tract help from coconut. We have a lot of horses going to this. Unfortunately Herbie and I had the same experience with Renew Gold. Just didnt work for us, but sure wish it had! My horses as well are on just very small amount of oats and curost and they look a million times better than they ever have on any feed with very little of anything other than good hay. You are right about good hay, or good hay support in the form of a cube like Cur-Ost and, more importantly, the horses ability to digest it. As we have discussed a number of times, there was something else going on with your horses and the shedding problem that you had at the time. We have not had that issue with Renew Gold in any other horses, ever, over four years and half a million bags fed. The fact that you had several horses that had the issue at the same time clearly points to something else going on at that time. There is no way to get anywhere near the nutritional support from a pound of oats that you get from a pound of the all natural ingredients used to make Renew Gold because of the higher digestible energy and the way it fits the horses digestive system. Now, I have nothing against oats at a small rate like that, and I use them in some of the diets that we do. My point was simply that boosting the base roughage quality with a very high quality cube in a horse that has proper mouth condition to comfortably chew them and their long hay, if used, along with RG fits the way a horse works inside. If your diet needs more than the recommended amount of renew gold to maintain condition and energy, there is either a lack of roughage quality, amount, or ability to digest it. Those issues are usually pretty easy to identify and fix. A cube like the Cur-Ost product can be a great way to address that, and I was simply saying that a lot of customers are using that combination and having a very positive result. The answer is never more and more Renew Gold. The answer is better natural use of the roughage part of the diet.
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                      Location: Here | Sandok - 2015-08-27 2:22 PM Is Cur-Ost a cube? Curost is a supplement http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=464841&start=1&highlight=curost&highlightmode=1
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| I was using Renew gold too. My mate coliced twice in a month on it. I was doing what was re commended . So it was that. I switched to BlueBonnet ExFactor. My mare is looking great. I also feed Cur Ost Complete. And Faldo hay. | |
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      Location: Beggs, OK | readytorodeo - 2015-08-27 4:13 PM I was using Renew gold too. My mate coliced twice in a month on it. I was doing what was re commended . So it was that. I switched to BlueBonnet ExFactor. My mare is looking great. I also feed Cur Ost Complete. And Faldo hay.
What you just wrote makes no sense in so many ways. There's nothing in Renew Gold that would make a horse colic. Bluebonnet Ex-Factor is a good feed, but there is no "Cur-Ost Complete".
Were you feeding Cur-Ost before or after you switched to the BB feed? There are a lot of horses that wouldn't do well on Renew Gold simply due to the fact that their gut isn't functioning properly. That's where the Cur-Ost comes in....once you get them utilizing the nutrition you're giving them they can do well on just about anything. | |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-08-28 6:28 AM
readytorodeo - 2015-08-27 4:13 PM Â I was using Renew gold too. Â My mate coliced twice in a month on it. Â I was doing what was re commended . Â So it was that. Â I switched to BlueBonnet ExFactor. Â My mare is looking great. Â I also feed Cur Ost Complete. Â And Faldo hay. Â
What you just wrote makes no sense in so many ways. Â There's nothing in Renew Gold that would make a horse colic. Â Bluebonnet Ex-Factor is a good feed, but there is no "Cur-Ost Complete". Â
Were you feeding Cur-Ost before or after you switched to the BB feed? Â There are a lot of horses that wouldn't do well on Renew Gold simply due to the fact that their gut isn't functioning properly. Â That's where the Cur-Ost comes in....once you get them utilizing the nutrition you're giving them they can do well on just about anything.Â
The words may not have been written correctly but I know what this person meant. BOTH my horses coliced same day in 2009 on Renew Gold. I was told I was the only one in the history of RG after (xxxxxx) bags sold to ever have this problem. Looks like I wasnt the only one. I am sure the person meant Cur Ost total care, or the one that has everything in it, even if they didnt get the name correctly. But I know what they meant and had very similar experiences... | |
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    Location: Midwest | FLITASTIC - 2015-08-28 9:27 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-28 6:28 AM readytorodeo - 2015-08-27 4:13 PM I was using Renew gold too. My mate coliced twice in a month on it. I was doing what was re commended . So it was that. I switched to BlueBonnet ExFactor. My mare is looking great. I also feed Cur Ost Complete. And Faldo hay. What you just wrote makes no sense in so many ways. There's nothing in Renew Gold that would make a horse colic. Bluebonnet Ex-Factor is a good feed, but there is no "Cur-Ost Complete".
Were you feeding Cur-Ost before or after you switched to the BB feed? There are a lot of horses that wouldn't do well on Renew Gold simply due to the fact that their gut isn't functioning properly. That's where the Cur-Ost comes in....once you get them utilizing the nutrition you're giving them they can do well on just about anything. The words may not have been written correctly but I know what this person meant. BOTH my horses coliced same day in 2009 on Renew Gold. I was told I was the only one in the history of RG after (xxxxxx ) bags sold to ever have this problem. Looks like I wasnt the only one. I am sure the person meant Cur Ost total care, or the one that has everything in it, even if they didnt get the name correctly. But I know what they meant and had very similar experiences...
I think she meant this one: https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/products/equine-formulas/cur-ost-eq-total-support | |
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      Location: Willows, CA | barrelracr131 - 2015-08-28 9:33 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-08-28 9:27 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-28 6:28 AM readytorodeo - 2015-08-27 4:13 PM Â I was using Renew gold too. Â My mate coliced twice in a month on it. Â I was doing what was re commended . Â So it was that. Â I switched to BlueBonnet ExFactor. Â My mare is looking great. Â I also feed Cur Ost Complete. Â And Faldo hay. Â What you just wrote makes no sense in so many ways. Â There's nothing in Renew Gold that would make a horse colic. Â Bluebonnet Ex-Factor is a good feed, but there is no "Cur-Ost Complete". Â
Were you feeding Cur-Ost before or after you switched to the BB feed?  There are a lot of horses that wouldn't do well on Renew Gold simply due to the fact that their gut isn't functioning properly.  That's where the Cur-Ost comes in....once you get them utilizing the nutrition you're giving them they can do well on just about anything. The words may not have been written correctly but I know what this person meant. BOTH my horses coliced same day in 2009 on Renew Gold. I was told I was the only one in the history of RG after (xxxxxx ) bags sold to ever have this problem. Looks like I wasnt the only one. I am sure the person meant Cur Ost total care, or the one that has everything in it, even if they didnt get the name correctly. But I know what they meant and had very similar experiences...
I think she meant this one:Â https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/products/equine-formulas/cur-ost-eq-total-support
First, Renew Gold was not made in 2009. The very first retail bags delivered on 12/24/2011. We have never had a colic call to the office. If you feed enough horses, and we do, there is always going to be other influences in their lives that can cause issues that are blamed on the wrong cause. There is nothing in Renew Gold that would stimulate a colic at our low recommended feed rates. Once again, two horses at the same time when this simply does not happen (or at best would be statistically ultra rare with one horse, let alone two) anywhere else would better indicate the possibility of something else in that environment at that time effecting more that one horse at the same time. One off bale of hay would be much more likely to cause this. We get calls from time to time about effectiveness and usually can identify what the road block is if the customers calls us to go over their program. Every horse is different, and we are not going to be perfect for every one. But, our customer satisfaction rate speaks for itself. Sorry to steal this thread. On BlueBonnet, it is a very good company. Their formulations are pretty innovative, and their mill is safe. | |
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| Sorry my auto correct typed for me. Lol. I feed Cur Ost total care, Alfalfa hay and Bluebonnett Ex Factor. I was feeding Renew Gold and she coliced not once but twice in a month. I had a problem with Renew Gold before with a colic . But gave it the benefit of the doubt and tried it again. With the same result. | |
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      Location: Beggs, OK | Sandok - 2015-08-28 9:55 AM But she kept calling it a "cube". That is what got me confused. But this post should be about Bluebonnet.
Win is a man. We already cleared up the cube confusion on the first page. He meant Omnis Cubes, no Cur-Ost in his previous post. | |
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      Location: Beggs, OK | want2chase3 - 2015-08-28 10:03 AM I currently feed blue bonnet omega force along with omnis cubes. Before I started the omnis I fed 4lbs a day per head. Now I'm only feeding 2lbs a day. My horses look good and are maintaining good body condition.
We saw the same results and have now taken our roping/barrel horses off of feed completely and they are 100% on Omnis Cubes with oats added as needed. | |
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      Location: NE Texas | winwillows - 2015-08-27 10:20 AM Herbie - 2015-08-27 9:18 AM It is a very concentrated feed. I fed it for a few months before finding Cur-Ost and changing over to whole oats. I was feeding at least 4 lbs daily (split into 2 servings of course) and am now down to one pound of whole oats once daily to mix in my Cur-Ost, and my horse looks better than ever. Through this process, I have learned that healing the hind gut will allow for better nutrient absorption so that the horse is actually able to utilize what we're feeding them. My concern with most commercial feeds are the synthetic ingredients (vitamins/minerals) added to balance the ration. This is something I have learned over the process of the last several months as well. Through research, it is proven that synthetics actually contribute to leaky gut syndrome and hind gut issues.
Cut-Ost and one pound of Renew Gold, check teeth and you are good to go. No synthetic added ingredients. Very potent antioxidant support and upper GI tract help from coconut. We have a lot of horses going to this. I'm happy with the program I currenlty have and am not looking to make any changes.
My horses did well on the Bluebonnet, but it was $28/bag, I was driving over an hour one way to get it, and during the wet spring we had, I was having a hard time keeping it from molding in my trash cans before I could get it fed. No fault of the feed itself or Bluebonnet whatsoever. The product I fed was the Omegaforce Intensify and it is very concentrated. I was feeding the Omegaforce when I began using the Cur-Ost, and then slowly changed over to the whole oats. I was concerned that my horses may fall off a bit when I made the change but they didn't at all. Like Rachel said, when you get the hindgut working and inlammatory response under control, these horses will thrive on so much less, especially if your forage is quality. I only use the little bit of oats I feed as a way to give my Cur-Ost, not for added fat or nutritonal value necessarily. My horses are getting everything they need nutritionally from my hay and the naturally occurring vit/min from the herbs in the Cur-Ost. I'm not needing any more energy so no need to increase the fat or add more carbs for my personal horses.
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FLITASTIC - 2015-08-28 9:27 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-28 6:28 AM readytorodeo - 2015-08-27 4:13 PM Â I was using Renew gold too. Â My mate coliced twice in a month on it. Â I was doing what was re commended . Â So it was that. Â I switched to BlueBonnet ExFactor. Â My mare is looking great. Â I also feed Cur Ost Complete. Â And Faldo hay. Â What you just wrote makes no sense in so many ways. Â There's nothing in Renew Gold that would make a horse colic. Â Bluebonnet Ex-Factor is a good feed, but there is no "Cur-Ost Complete". Â
Were you feeding Cur-Ost before or after you switched to the BB feed?  There are a lot of horses that wouldn't do well on Renew Gold simply due to the fact that their gut isn't functioning properly.  That's where the Cur-Ost comes in....once you get them utilizing the nutrition you're giving them they can do well on just about anything. The words may not have been written correctly but I know what this person meant. BOTH my horses coliced same day in 2009 on Renew Gold. I was told I was the only one in the history of RG after (xxxxxx ) bags sold to ever have this problem. Looks like I wasnt the only one. I am sure the person meant Cur Ost total care, or the one that has everything in it, even if they didnt get the name correctly. But I know what they meant and had very similar experiences...
I think she meant this one:Â https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/products/equine-formulas/cur-ost-eq-total-support
First, Renew Gold was not made in 2009. The very first retail bags delivered on 12/24/2011. We have never had a colic call to the office. If you feed enough horses, and we do, there is always going to be other influences in their lives that can cause issues that are blamed on the wrong cause. There is nothing in Renew Gold that would stimulate a colic at our low recommended feed rates. Once again, two horses at the same time when this simply does not happen (or at best would be statistically ultra rare with one horse, let alone two ) anywhere else would better indicate the possibility of something else in that environment at that time effecting more that one horse at the same time. One off bale of hay would be much more likely to cause this. We get calls from time to time about effectiveness and usually can identify what the road block is if the customers calls us to go over their program. Every horse is different, and we are not going to be perfect for every one. But, our customer satisfaction rate speaks for itself. Sorry to steal this thread. On BlueBonnet, it is a very good company. Their formulations are pretty innovative, and their mill is safe.
My mistake on the date. I was trying to remember which 2 had colic at the same time and thought it was about 2009, so it was sooner. My vet went over my feeding program and that was the only addition to the program at the time, which ended up being about 3-4 days after starting to feed it. Your right, I did not call, I simply took them off of it and have not had a colic since.
Oops, just remembered, had a mild mild colic after feeding the Daily Gold supplement for a week few months ago.
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