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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-09-29 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: Bittersweet day....


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I sent Dr Honnas in Bryan, Texas a message. From all the past threads I read on here here he seems to be the go to person for kissing spine. So hopefully I can get his opinion as well. My farrier also noticed on her hoof xrays of her front left that she has side bone on both sides of the coffin joint. The vet didn't mention that at all. The hoof xrays said they were over the limit to upload. I'll figure out how to get it to work.

Serenity seems more comfortable on the Bute and muscle relaxers. It looks like the inflammation of the muscles in her lower back and leading over her hips has gone down! The muscles around her witherson look like they are wasting away though :(
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-09-29 9:46 PM
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Dr Honnas doesn't think she is a candidate for surgery and that once we get the inflammation down the bones should quit rubbing. In his opinion if the inflammation is kept down then her career may not be over after all.... That would be amazing!
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-09-29 10:42 PM
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So excited for you and her!! Updates are required, ya know!
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Serenity06
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Posted 2015-09-29 10:44 PM
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I will definitely keep updating. Hopefully I can be so lucky. Dr Sutherland seemed to think it was the end of her career..
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-09-29 11:10 PM
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Serenity06 - 2015-09-29 9:46 PM Dr Honnas doesn't think she is a candidate for surgery and that once we get the inflammation down the bones should quit rubbing. In his opinion if the inflammation is kept down then her career may not be over after all.... That would be amazing!

 Hey there! My trainer shared a really good article about this topic and I thought of you! It's a VERY good read and I know I'll definitely be implementing this into my horse's conditioning program.
http://horsetalk.co.nz/2015/02/04/help-horse-kissing-spine-goodbye/#axzz3nBtmFQsd
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-09-30 5:59 AM
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Thank you! I am going to print it and put It in both horse trailers!
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-09-30 11:57 PM
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Serenity06 - 2015-09-30 5:59 AM Thank you! I am going to print it and put It in both horse trailers!

 I tried the stretches in there for the first time tonight. My horse was more sore than usual tonight so not sure if he's due for another round of injections or just from having a couple days off, but I dedicated our entire ride to working on these stretches at the walk and trot and while we are both still figuring out the "long and low" contact and these exercises, his back felt SIGNIFICANTLY better when I got off than when I got on. So I highly recommend! We are going to warm up like this from now on.
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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-10-01 6:57 AM
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Serenity06 - 2015-09-29 9:46 PM

Dr Honnas doesn't think she is a candidate for surgery and that once we get the inflammation down the bones should quit rubbing. In his opinion if the inflammation is kept down then her career may not be over after all.... That would be amazing!

He is the BEST! Prayers that your mare heals and is able to continue running for you!
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-10-01 1:34 PM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-30 10:57 PM

Serenity06 - 2015-09-30 5:59 AM Thank you! I am going to print it and put It in both horse trailers!

 I tried the stretches in there for the first time tonight. My horse was more sore than usual tonight so not sure if he's due for another round of injections or just from having a couple days off, but I dedicated our entire ride to working on these stretches at the walk and trot and while we are both still figuring out the "long and low" contact and these exercises, his back felt SIGNIFICANTLY better when I got off than when I got on. So I highly recommend! We are going to warm up like this from now on.

Thank you for the update! As soon as she is cleared for riding we will try it! I'm also going to see what kind of schedule I can get her on with the rehab place 45mins away with an AquaTred! I will be getting a video later today to show how she's moving on day 5 of Bute and muscle relaxers. I wasnt to be able to compare it to my last video and in a few days from now. We do still have to get the angles on her feet a bit better as well.
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-10-01 1:46 PM
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OP - my gelding also has "mild" kissing spine. His do not touch but have in the past causing the calcification and damage to each vertebrae. His effect 3 processes. I can try and attach mine for your comparision.

I have been doing meso therapy, massage and TONS of lunging with side reins, long lines and a neck stretcher. Sometimes over ground poles and sometimes not to build that topline. I have some fantastic days and he has some horrible days. I only ran him 3 times this year (vet said I could run him as normal unless having a flair up) but I wanted to be cautious and he had very very nice runs.

So I know its heartbreaking but know there are lots of options. Hugs

ETA - cant get the pics to attach of x-rays

Edited by stayceem 2015-10-01 1:48 PM
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-10-01 2:59 PM
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ampratt - 2015-10-01 5:57 AM

Serenity06 - 2015-09-29 9:46 PM

Dr Honnas doesn't think she is a candidate for surgery and that once we get the inflammation down the bones should quit rubbing. In his opinion if the inflammation is kept down then her career may not be over after all.... That would be amazing!

He is the BEST! Prayers that your mare heals and is able to continue running for you!

Thank you! I'm hoping so! If not at least I have answers and can now address it. I'd really hate for her career to be over as fast as it started....
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-10-01 3:05 PM
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stayceem - 2015-10-01 12:46 PM

OP - my gelding also has "mild" kissing spine. His do not touch but have in the past causing the calcification and damage to each vertebrae. His effect 3 processes. I can try and attach mine for your comparision.

I have been doing meso therapy, massage and TONS of lunging with side reins, long lines and a neck stretcher. Sometimes over ground poles and sometimes not to build that topline. I have some fantastic days and he has some horrible days. I only ran him 3 times this year (vet said I could run him as normal unless having a flair up) but I wanted to be cautious and he had very very nice runs.

So I know its heartbreaking but know there are lots of options. Hugs

ETA - cant get the pics to attach of x-rays

That sounds exactly like my mare actually. They aren't touching at a stand still but do in motion at some point. We are on our last day of Bute and muscle relaxers. I need to lunge her to see how her front left is doing. I'm at a standstill with her rehab until I get her sound on that foot. I've been pulling her out every evening while I work youngsters to stand tied with her PHT MagnaCu blanket on. Idk if it's helping or not but I hope so.....

I will definitely look into some of those things. I've always been against side reins because I was raised in the mind set that it creates a false headset and does no good. Guess my way of thinking will have to change....
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