3canstorun - 2015-11-04 8:56 AM Use Equimax for the tape worms - it works better.  And, I have never had a reaction with it.  Nor have I read about one.   

ctdrumrunr - 2015-11-04 8:26 AM What can you use for tapeworms?  I do a fecal count every year and have not wormed in about 4-5 years, vet did recommend Quest for tapeworms in fall and I am leary of using it. 

Runnincat - 2015-11-04 2:29 PM I have used it for 18 years on various horses....sometimes up to a herd of 10....without any issues.  This would include at least 25-30 different horses.   Over a decade and I knew about the horror stories other people were telling.  I would become scared and use ivermectin or something else.  Then the horse would colic and off to the vet we would go and he would scold me for not using quest.  When it was the 3rd horse at the vet with colic because I had used a different wormer, I changed and rotate between Quest and Quest Plus.  This ended the colic trips to the vet due to worms at least.  I have never had a horse react to it...I have had more problems using other wormers due to the fact that the others were not as effective. 



I realize that some horses would have an allergic reaction to it but I havent ever had one.  I do not use it on weanlings, sick horses and we do not  own donkeys. 



Here is a Zoetis study recently published in the JAVMA:

https://www.zoetisus.com/news-and-media/prepare-for-spring-deworming-with-superior-results-from-quest-gel-head-to-head-study.aspx



Obviously I am not going to argue or disagree with those that think it has hurt or harmed their horses in any manner.  I can only speak from my own experience.

 

ctdrumrunr - 2015-11-04 7:26 AM

What can you use for tapeworms?  I do a fecal count every year and have not wormed in about 4-5 years, vet did recommend Quest for tapeworms in fall and I am leary of using it. 

casualdust07 - 2015-11-06 4:00 PM It's not just Quest, technically all ivermectin dewormers should be avoided in foals under 6 months old and in extremely thin animals. The active ingredient in Quest is Moxidectin which is the same class as Ivermectin. The blood brain barrier in young foals and thin animals is not as developed as in adult horses or fatter horses, so ivermectin can cross the blood brain barrier and cause neurologic disease. It's the same reason why collies, shelties, aussies, etc should not be treated with ivermectin unless they have been tested for the MDR1 gene and don't have the mutation, except in dogs it does not go away with age.

OregonBR - 2015-11-05 12:09 PM

I use QuestPlus at least once a year. But I worm at least 2x more during the year. As long as the horse is on an effective de-worming program and is not very young, really sick or underweight there should be no issue. Just get an accurate weight on your horse and don't under or overdose them.

I want to add another thing to the topic. If you use fecals to tell you when and if to worm, you're putting your horse at risk. Not all parasite types shed eggs. Some of the worst don't. So if you blissfully think that you're covered (by clean fecals) and you aren't de-worming at least 2X per year with the heavy duty de-wormsers as well. You aren't touching the types that don't show up in fecals. On that same line of thought the diatomaceous earth that people claim works, is also ineffective against some parasites (if not all IMO) because some are NOT in the digestive track. Besides. Fecals cost as much as a dose of wormer. Why not just de-worm?

fulltiltfilly - 2015-11-05 7:16 AM You can double dose with strongid.  

Chandler's Mom - 2015-11-07 10:19 PM


I have read more articles in the past year or so about vets recommending not doing rotational worming but making sure to do fecal counts each time----why is this do you think? We still rotate wormers and administer every few months, no fecal count. . . . .