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| Silly Filly - 2015-12-01 10:19 AM
Yeah, it always amazes me that you have to have a $50,000 horse to win a $15 jackpot................................Personally, I wouldn't run a horse of that caliber, but people do it here all the time.
^^^ I totally agree with this. When I see someone outrunning everyone by 6-7 tenths at a 40-50 person jackpot all I can think is WHYYYYYYY???? This is the only thought that comes to my head....
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I know some of the playdays have a membership due you have to pay to qualify for the awards, do these runners pay their dues? If not then they are running as a guest and dont get the points at the shows. | |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | kboltwkreations - 2015-12-01 10:30 AM
Silly Filly - 2015-12-01 10:19 AM
Yeah, it always amazes me that you have to have a $50,000 horse to win a $15 jackpot................................Personally, I wouldn't run a horse of that caliber, but people do it here all the time.
^^^ I totally agree with this. When I see someone outrunning everyone by 6-7 tenths at a 40-50 person jackpot all I can think is WHYYYYYYY???? This is the only thought that comes to my head....
^This exactly!!! This ticks me more than seeing someone with a high caliber horse showing up and blowin everyone out the water.
It's when they do it at a 20 dollar jackpot.
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Location: East Texas | When our grandson (who we raise) was 7, we went to sign him up to play baseball. The 7-8 year old teams were full, so they said we could move him up to the 9-10 year olds. We really didn't want to do it, but he really wanted to play, so we explained to him that the other boys were older and had played longer and tried to encourage him to not get discouraged. He learned so much and the next year, at 8, he continued to play with the older team and by the middle of that year, he was as good if not better than some of the older ones. He watched how the more experienced players played, and tried to do the same. I am sure it can be a little discouraging when they come in and blow everybody's socks off, but when they do, learn from them and I can promise you will be a better rider and your horse a better competitor. Make it a positive, not a negative!! Good luck!! | |
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| I dont get why people care so much about where someone enters their horse?!?! They pay the entry fees and pay for their horse... I guess I am confused by some of the responses... ??? | |
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Location: Central Texas | stayceem - 2015-12-01 11:31 AM
I dont get why people care so much about where someone enters their horse?!?! They pay the entry fees and pay for their horse... I guess I am confused by some of the responses... ???
She asked a question and people gave their opinions. Same as being able to decide where you pay your entry fees or run your horse I guess. | |
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| ampratt - 2015-12-01 11:36 AM
stayceem - 2015-12-01 11:31 AM
I dont get why people care so much about where someone enters their horse?!?! They pay the entry fees and pay for their horse... I guess I am confused by some of the responses... ???
She asked a question and people gave their opinions. Same as being able to decide where you pay your entry fees or run your horse I guess.
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Location: CentralTexas | Not at all! I love seeing where my horses stand next to the pros...it just makes me try harder! | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I understrand how the OP feels, I was that person once many many years ago, so I think she has the right.  | |
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| I really love all the opinions on here about this.
I really don't care who wins or loses or if I do. I know my horses aren't ready for the big dogs and thats the only reason I go to the playdays and small things right now, but I plan to next year after getting then ridden and going super well to *hopefully* enter up and start running seriously. The only thing that got to me was how more then a few people who run NBHA, jackpots etc. Would come to these little playdays and blow everyone out of the water. But as others have said it is their right, if they are paying the fee to enter then they have ever right to be there. I just don't understand when you have a horse you know could win. Why would you bring them to a dinky playday or whatever?? If you've got a horse that wins and can run. Its not exactly promoting them or doing them justice bringing the to small things, when you could prove them else where running with the big dogs.
A friend of mine used to bring her daughter to playdays and stuff. But once she got in touch with Tana Poppino at a clinic earlier this year. Tana told her it seriously wasn't doing the horse or her daughter any justice and if she wanted to rodeo and play with the big dogs, to actually run with them and not do smaller events. | |
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| GLP - 2015-12-01 11:38 AM
ampratt - 2015-12-01 11:36 AM
stayceem - 2015-12-01 11:31 AM
I dont get why people care so much about where someone enters their horse?!?! They pay the entry fees and pay for their horse... I guess I am confused by some of the responses... ???
She asked a question and people gave their opinions. Same as being able to decide where you pay your entry fees or run your horse I guess.
I just dont understand it I guess. I guess I understand people not enjoying being beat but I also dont think its "unfair" for people to enter a good horse at a more local, smaller event. But I guess I was one of them that people werent always nice to due to the horses they rode. I had the privledge of riding nice horses... ones who won big big races (they get all the credit for our success). However, I showed at a lot of smaller events because I liked to. I also did the bigger shows too (NBHA state finals and barrel bashes) but I enjoyed the local races and local fun shows. The atmopshere is different but people were sometimes unkindly competitive. I was always ridiculed for riding at those events and people did/said horrible things. I did it because I loved those types of events, not because I wanted to whoop it up at a smaller show.
I just dont understand why it bothers you/anyone... and maybe the "playday" circuit here is much different because it is a pretty hot organization where there are a lot of crossovers from barrels races to these events (lot of the same people do both up here). I love being challenged at races/events. Some of my favorite days have been when I have brought home lower placings but I also competed against a nice field of horses. | |
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| RacingTheArabian - 2015-12-01 12:27 PM
I really love all the opinions on here about this.
I really don't care who wins or loses or if I do. I know my horses aren't ready for the big dogs and thats the only reason I go to the playdays and small things right now, but I plan to next year after getting then ridden and going super well to *hopefully* enter up and start running seriously. The only thing that got to me was how more then a few people who run NBHA, jackpots etc. Would come to these little playdays and blow everyone out of the water. But as others have said it is their right, if they are paying the fee to enter then they have ever right to be there. I just don't understand when you have a horse you know could win. Why would you bring them to a dinky playday or whatever?? If you've got a horse that wins and can run. Its not exactly promoting them or doing them justice bringing the to small things, when you could prove them else where running with the big dogs.
A friend of mine used to bring her daughter to playdays and stuff. But once she got in touch with Tana Poppino at a clinic earlier this year. Tana told her it seriously wasn't doing the horse or her daughter any justice and if she wanted to rodeo and play with the big dogs, to actually run with them and not do smaller events.
I guess I would say that everyone has their own goals... I had a few nice 1D mares growing up (again I give them all the credit, I was simply a passenger)... but I love the playdays because they have other events. I also like the entry fees especially when I was struggling through college, yes I could pull a check at a big barrel race and often did BUT... always the chance, I'd be just out of the money or tip or whatever. I just like the low-key, stress free, fun atmopshere. I get tired of just doing barrels... Another reason is my niece loves to ride and the playdays are a great place for her to get started. She is only trotting/loping and gets whooped around the block by some of the kids but she might get a ribbon which is exciting for her. Playdays are more family oriented.
So again, it depends on your goals. To me I show/compete/barrel race because I love to do it. Nothing better in the world than spending the day/weekend with your best bud and just going... I dont intend on selling a horse so going to all the BIG stuff to prove my horse isnt that important to me. I know what he's worth, just as I knew what those horses I rode as a kid were worth. And I also do some of the bigger stuff which proves their "D" or their value in that type of setup. I also worked every other weekend for a long time and it was easier to find a playday and commit to that then a big race.
I guess my point is that there are a lot of reasons someone may go to the playdays... sometimes they just wanna have fun!! Doesnt matter what arena, money added, etc. But I should add our playday circuit shows are held at a lot of the same arenas or barrel races are held at so the ground is good and its usually a set pattern so even if you're at a playday, you can usually still decipher if you're running a 1D/2D/3D/4D time. | |
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Location: North Pole | I will enter a good horse at a local play day every once in a VERY great while. The reason for doing it is usually because I'm working out some kink, a colt that I just need to put against a timer, etc.
Where I live, I drive three hours OR MORE - one way - to go to races. If I'm hauling that far, I'm not going to just do exhibitions or to burn cash.
When I DO go to a play day, I only enter barrels - I don't do all the games. So even if my horse DOES blow the doors off, it's only one event. Everybody has to lose sometimes....
I actually entered my good gelding at a play day a few months ago and I got a LOT of "why are you here?"s. My gelding had been having some second barrel issues, got vetted, got cleared, and I wanted to lope him through and show him that his stifles didn't hurt anymore. I LOPED him through and got third I think, and people were still ****ed. You're never going to make everybody happy, so you might as well do what you feel is right for you and your horse; even if that means entering a play day once a year if you have to. | |
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| BHW_SECRET_SANTA - 2015-12-01 12:47 PM
I will enter a good horse at a local play day every once in a VERY great while. The reason for doing it is usually because I'm working out some kink, a colt that I just need to put against a timer, etc.
Where I live, I drive three hours OR MORE - one way - to go to races. If I'm hauling that far, I'm not going to just do exhibitions or to burn cash.
When I DO go to a play day, I only enter barrels - I don't do all the games. So even if my horse DOES blow the doors off, it's only one event. Everybody has to lose sometimes....
I actually entered my good gelding at a play day a few months ago and I got a LOT of "why are you here?"s. My gelding had been having some second barrel issues, got vetted, got cleared, and I wanted to lope him through and show him that his stifles didn't hurt anymore. I LOPED him through and got third I think, and people were still ****ed. You're never going to make everybody happy, so you might as well do what you feel is right for you and your horse; even if that means entering a play day once a year if you have to.
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Location: Central Texas | stayceem - 2015-12-01 12:34 PM
GLP - 2015-12-01 11:38 AM
ampratt - 2015-12-01 11:36 AM
stayceem - 2015-12-01 11:31 AM
I dont get why people care so much about where someone enters their horse?!?! They pay the entry fees and pay for their horse... I guess I am confused by some of the responses... ???
She asked a question and people gave their opinions. Same as being able to decide where you pay your entry fees or run your horse I guess.
I just dont understand it I guess. I guess I understand people not enjoying being beat but I also dont think its "unfair" for people to enter a good horse at a more local, smaller event. But I guess I was one of them that people werent always nice to due to the horses they rode. I had the privledge of riding nice horses... ones who won big big races (they get all the credit for our success ). However, I showed at a lot of smaller events because I liked to. I also did the bigger shows too (NBHA state finals and barrel bashes ) but I enjoyed the local races and local fun shows. The atmopshere is different but people were sometimes unkindly competitive. I was always ridiculed for riding at those events and people did/said horrible things. I did it because I loved those types of events, not because I wanted to whoop it up at a smaller show.
I just dont understand why it bothers you/anyone... and maybe the "playday" circuit here is much different because it is a pretty hot organization where there are a lot of crossovers from barrels races to these events (lot of the same people do both up here ). I love being challenged at races/events. Some of my favorite days have been when I have brought home lower placings but I also competed against a nice field of horses.
Personally, I think you are reading to much into people's opinions. The OP asked if it bugged anyone, some said no, some said yes. No big deal really. People can run where ever they like, that's the beauty of it. Go run and have fun. Not everyone is going to feel the same way about anything, It doesn't mean either one is right. | |
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Location: North Dakota -> Colorado | I guess I always look at it in the sense of a comparison mostly. I compete against myself and where I have come from, but I also like the comparison to tell me where I'm at and where I need to go. I started off in the small youth rodeos, and 4-H circuits. A lot of those kids grew up to be strong competitiors and I (*like*) to think that I'm getting there or are there as well. When I was a kid in those youth rodeos, I was sometimes dishearted because they were running bigger, stronger, more finished horses than I had available to me (or so I thought). However, when I finally placed or finally won the state 4-H championship in my age division, I was OVER THE MOON ecstatic. I then moved to Jr. High, and High School Rodeo. Again, at the times, I didn't have to the horse or the skills (I finally realized that it was ME) to be consistently in the top. During my Jr. High and High School years, I was running against girls on horses (both had the skills) to be placing consistently in the top at nationals, and winning our State's Rodeo Association Finals at very young ages. Sure, I was jealous of the horses they were mounted on. BUT, I worked my tail off to get my riding skills up to par. I rode other people's horses, I rode with some top futurity and rodeo competitors in the area who so kindly shared their wisdom with me ( I will forever be grateful to ALL of them). In fact, in the past year or so I extended my skills to ride under a reining trainer (and boy, did that teach me A LOT). I was a lot weaker than I thought and wasn't cueing as correctly, exactly, and precisely as I should have been so as to convey my message to the horses on which I was mounted. I had a small little mare throughout the youth rodeo - part of HS rodeo. She wasn't anything special, but she was gritty (retired due to arthritis now). She won me quite a bit through youth rodeo, and NBHA. Throughout HS, I ran a plethora of horses, most of which weren't my own, I was just lucky enough to have great friends and mentors. I learned my riding style, and what I mostly fit with. Now, in college, I have a solid solid mare, who I believe will take me to my potential at this level. She is right in there within my region against tough tough horses that are solid in both the college and the pro circuit as well. Everything has been a driving force, and a step up within the industry. I'd rather compete against some big dogs, that show me where I need to get to to be successful in my mind. ETA: I will NOT run my good horse just at small things, I save her for the races that actually mean something and where I'm running against atleast 100 people (my philosophy has changed and evolved over time) 100 people is pretty big for around here.
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Location: MD | isn't it a race?
you are racing against others.... what's the point if you're pi$$y that someone has a "better" horse over yours?
ETA This wasn't directed at the OP, more at those that are seemingly very irked over who enters where
Edited by Crowned Image 2015-12-01 1:08 PM
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Location: Florida | Every run you do today, is one off the end. If you had a good horse, why would you waste a run at a game show? I would never go unless it had a rare decent added money. | |
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| ampratt - 2015-12-01 12:58 PM
stayceem - 2015-12-01 12:34 PM
GLP - 2015-12-01 11:38 AM
ampratt - 2015-12-01 11:36 AM
stayceem - 2015-12-01 11:31 AM
I dont get why people care so much about where someone enters their horse?!?! They pay the entry fees and pay for their horse... I guess I am confused by some of the responses... ???
She asked a question and people gave their opinions. Same as being able to decide where you pay your entry fees or run your horse I guess.
I just dont understand it I guess. I guess I understand people not enjoying being beat but I also dont think its "unfair" for people to enter a good horse at a more local, smaller event. But I guess I was one of them that people werent always nice to due to the horses they rode. I had the privledge of riding nice horses... ones who won big big races (they get all the credit for our success ). However, I showed at a lot of smaller events because I liked to. I also did the bigger shows too (NBHA state finals and barrel bashes ) but I enjoyed the local races and local fun shows. The atmopshere is different but people were sometimes unkindly competitive. I was always ridiculed for riding at those events and people did/said horrible things. I did it because I loved those types of events, not because I wanted to whoop it up at a smaller show.
I just dont understand why it bothers you/anyone... and maybe the "playday" circuit here is much different because it is a pretty hot organization where there are a lot of crossovers from barrels races to these events (lot of the same people do both up here ). I love being challenged at races/events. Some of my favorite days have been when I have brought home lower placings but I also competed against a nice field of horses.
Personally, I think you are reading to much into people's opinions. The OP asked if it bugged anyone, some said no, some said yes. No big deal really. People can run where ever they like, that's the beauty of it. Go run and have fun. Not everyone is going to feel the same way about anything, It doesn't mean either one is right.
I can respect others opinion but I guess I find the fact that it "bugs you" to run against tougher competition kinda childish (my opinion) and I cant grasp it in my brain because I dont understand it. I like competition. Always have no matter if I was at the top or at the bottom. I also gave the reasons why someone would choose to run at game shows/playdays. | |
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Location: Central Texas | stayceem - 2015-12-01 2:00 PM
ampratt - 2015-12-01 12:58 PM
stayceem - 2015-12-01 12:34 PM
GLP - 2015-12-01 11:38 AM
ampratt - 2015-12-01 11:36 AM
stayceem - 2015-12-01 11:31 AM
I dont get why people care so much about where someone enters their horse?!?! They pay the entry fees and pay for their horse... I guess I am confused by some of the responses... ???
She asked a question and people gave their opinions. Same as being able to decide where you pay your entry fees or run your horse I guess.
I just dont understand it I guess. I guess I understand people not enjoying being beat but I also dont think its "unfair" for people to enter a good horse at a more local, smaller event. But I guess I was one of them that people werent always nice to due to the horses they rode. I had the privledge of riding nice horses... ones who won big big races (they get all the credit for our success ). However, I showed at a lot of smaller events because I liked to. I also did the bigger shows too (NBHA state finals and barrel bashes ) but I enjoyed the local races and local fun shows. The atmopshere is different but people were sometimes unkindly competitive. I was always ridiculed for riding at those events and people did/said horrible things. I did it because I loved those types of events, not because I wanted to whoop it up at a smaller show.
I just dont understand why it bothers you/anyone... and maybe the "playday" circuit here is much different because it is a pretty hot organization where there are a lot of crossovers from barrels races to these events (lot of the same people do both up here ). I love being challenged at races/events. Some of my favorite days have been when I have brought home lower placings but I also competed against a nice field of horses.
Personally, I think you are reading to much into people's opinions. The OP asked if it bugged anyone, some said no, some said yes. No big deal really. People can run where ever they like, that's the beauty of it. Go run and have fun. Not everyone is going to feel the same way about anything, It doesn't mean either one is right.
I can respect others opinion but I guess I find the fact that it "bugs you" to run against tougher competition kinda childish (my opinion ) and I cant grasp it in my brain because I dont understand it. I like competition. Always have no matter if I was at the top or at the bottom. I also gave the reasons why someone would choose to run at game shows/playdays.
I am done here. I never ever attacked you in the least and apparently you CAN'T respect my opinion if you are insulting me for having one. Frankly, I could care less who runs where. The OP asked a question, I gave my opinion, end of story. For what it's worth. I never ever said it bugs me to run againsst tougher competition, go back and read my original response to be clear on what I DID say.
Edited by ampratt 2015-12-01 2:19 PM
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