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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | FLITASTIC - 2015-12-06 5:14 PM readytorodeo - 2015-12-06 2:10 PM pepsi97 - 2015-12-06 3:11 PM What's a good feed then? Is it better to feed sweet feed and add their supplements in or choose a complete feed and just add joint? I've fed it for awhile now and my horses do good on safechoice. Oats with rice bran or Renew gold. Add the Curost Total and Immune. Feed Alfalfa and I give free choice Timothy. You will be surprised at the difference in your horse. Free choice alfalfa for me and Oats/ricebran with Curost total support, adapt, and one horse on stomach.
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Location: Willows, CA | ctdrumrunr - 2015-12-06 6:02 PM
you guys are lucky you can get RG, I am in the Northeast and no one near enough to me has it. TSC said they could get it, but minimum buy is a pallet and I only have 1 horse. Do you know how long that pallet would last lol. I can get Total Equine since a nearby aquaintance is going to be selling it. I know there was a TE thread and a lot of people got off of it and went to RG because their horses stopped doing good on it. Do you all think TE would be a good change.
You no longer need to order a minimum amount of Renew Gold for your Tractor Supply to get it. As of last month, Renew Gold is in every Tractor Supply distribution center. That means that any Tractor Supply store can order any amount they need as a simple addition to their regular orders. If you ask and they don't know this, just give them the item number 1054391 and ask them to look it up. The price should be between $29.95 and $31.95 per bag. New distribution and increased volumes has also created a lower distributor price to independent distributors East of the Rocky Mountains. This price drop should reach independent feed stores in the next few weeks.
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| So most of you feed oats and add in supplements? My horses are on pasture 25/7 and get hay this time of year. Plus a scoop of safechoice twice a day. It sounds like oats is the way to go and just add in exceed 6 or platinum performance if I understood all this correctly. | |
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| pepsi97 - 2015-12-07 7:36 PM
So most of you feed oats and add in supplements? My horses are on pasture 25/7 and get hay this time of year. Plus a scoop of safechoice twice a day. It sounds like oats is the way to go and just add in exceed 6 or platinum performance if I understood all this correctly.
Pick your supplement wisely. From what I understand and have learned here your horse should be getting most all of the necessary vitamin/mineral from the oats and hay so don't waste your money on expensive mineral/vitamin supplement. | |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | pepsi97 - 2015-12-07 8:36 PM So most of you feed oats and add in supplements? My horses are on pasture 25/7 and get hay this time of year. Plus a scoop of safechoice twice a day. It sounds like oats is the way to go and just add in exceed 6 or platinum performance if I understood all this correctly.
You have to make sure you are paying attention to your feed/hay/supplement content. With Cur Ost, you eliminate as much processed as you can, so yes oats are the way to go with that. Good luck! | |
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Location: Jersey Girl | FLITASTIC - 2015-12-07 10:08 AM Timber Creek - 2015-12-07 6:48 AM I was so excited when we finally got Renew Gold in our area but in looking at the ingredients it didn't seem to have a lot of the vitamins that some of the others like Summer Heat have? Reading this makes me want to get a bag and give it a try though.
Dont forget, the vast majority of vitamins and minerals in bagged processed feeds are synthetic and do more harm than good. The idea is to provide a variety of forage so the horse can assimilate all the natural vitamins and minerals from that source, not a bag.
Why would you feed Renew Gold? Or for what reason? Isn't it processed as well? What benefit is it? | |
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Location: Kentucky | I stay away from sweet feed. Lots of sugars in there. Make sure you know where your feed is coming from.
I feed Tribute once a day, and top dress with T.H.E and FORCO on my 18 year old mare. She is a nervous nelly also I've seen a big change switching her to a low starch feed with the T.H.E. | |
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| fulltiltfilly - 2015-12-08 12:23 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-12-07 10:08 AM Timber Creek - 2015-12-07 6:48 AM I was so excited when we finally got Renew Gold in our area but in looking at the ingredients it didn't seem to have a lot of the vitamins that some of the others like Summer Heat have? Reading this makes me want to get a bag and give it a try though.
Dont forget, the vast majority of vitamins and minerals in bagged processed feeds are synthetic and do more harm than good. The idea is to provide a variety of forage so the horse can assimilate all the natural vitamins and minerals from that source, not a bag.
It has no grain or synthetic vitamins/minerals. Rsstires the hind gut to functioning like it should. And it's low in starch. | |
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Location: Willows, CA | fulltiltfilly - 2015-12-08 12:23 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-12-07 10:08 AM Timber Creek - 2015-12-07 6:48 AM I was so excited when we finally got Renew Gold in our area but in looking at the ingredients it didn't seem to have a lot of the vitamins that some of the others like Summer Heat have? Reading this makes me want to get a bag and give it a try though.
Dont forget, the vast majority of vitamins and minerals in bagged processed feeds are synthetic and do more harm than good. The idea is to provide a variety of forage so the horse can assimilate all the natural vitamins and minerals from that source, not a bag.
I can answer this one. First, the term "processed" can mean a lot of things. Usually it is associated with feed made with highly altered byproduct ingredients that have little in common with their natural state, or are simply used to bulk up the amount of feed that you are paying for in the least expensive way. You think you are buying more, but are really getting less nutrition because highly processed feeds are simply poorly digested, and can prevent other parts of your horses diet from being used properly also. These highly processed byproducts usually add little to the nutritional value of the finished product. Even "whole grains" can have issues depending on age, quality, storage conditions and fumigation, which they all go through. Remember, if you are on the whole grain band wagon, the highest quality whole grain does not go to the feed market. It goes to the human market. Damaged whole grain is sold exclusively to the animal market. While badly damaged whole grain can be hidden in "processed" feeds, you do need to be cautious with whole grains, especially corn, in horse feed. I am not condemning whole grains, just recommending caution to know what you are really feeding. This is not how Renew Gold is made. All ingredient are highest quality, food grade and natural without any synthetic additives. There are no byproducts used in the formulation since every ingredient was specified for an actual nutritional contribution within the formulation with consideration given to very exact interactions with the other ingredients in the formulation. The reason you feed Renew Gold is two fold. First, is normalized digestive function from the mouth back through the entire digestive system. Every part of the digestive system is supported in a positive way. This allows more complete nutrient uptake not only of the Renew Gold, but more importantly, of the rest of the diet. Second, Renew Gold can replace disruptive grain based concentrates, or whole grains, that if fed at more than two pounds per feeding actually create road blocks to your horse digesting all of its diets properly. | |
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| Y'all are gonna get tired of me lol!! I've been trying to read up cause I want the best for my horses. So I'm thinking I'm gonna try the oats and add rice bran with PP or exceed 6 way. Is there anything else I'm missing? My horses are on pasture all the time and get grass hay. My tb is a hard keeper so from what I understand rice bran will help with that. I'm trying to learn but this nutrition thing confuses me lol. I just want the best for my girls and I'm starting to realize processed feed is not the way to go. | |
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Location: NE Texas | pepsi97 - 2015-12-08 3:02 PM Y'all are gonna get tired of me lol!! I've been trying to read up cause I want the best for my horses. So I'm thinking I'm gonna try the oats and add rice bran with PP or exceed 6 way. Is there anything else I'm missing? My horses are on pasture all the time and get grass hay. My tb is a hard keeper so from what I understand rice bran will help with that. I'm trying to learn but this nutrition thing confuses me lol. I just want the best for my girls and I'm starting to realize processed feed is not the way to go.
I'm not downing either of these products, but I truly think you'd be better off going the Cur-OST route and getting the gut working properly. You're half way there in the feed you have chosen, but there are alot of supplements also that have the same issues as processed feed in that they contain synthetic vitamins and fillers and actually end up being contributing factors to the hind gut issues we have in our horses. By going with the Cur-OST forumulas, you are targeting the source of the inflammation and promoting a healthy inflammatory and immune response and get the gut functioning like it should. I would be willing to bet that you would have a new horse in 2 weeks or less. | |
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Location: Kansas | what about joint supplements for those who can't afford to spend $120 for a 30 day supply of Cur-ost? | |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 3:45 PM
what about joint supplements for those who can't afford to spend $120 for a 30 day supply of Cur-ost?
I would talk to the girl who sells THE on here. THE is less expensive yet effective. I use Cur Ost and my sister has had tremendous results with her gelding that had ulcers using THE. Not one single colic since feeding THE. She followed the ulcer protocol they gave her. Whatever supplement you decide on, talk to the people who sell it so you find out the most effective way to feed their supplement. | |
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Location: NE Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 3:45 PM what about joint supplements for those who can't afford to spend $120 for a 30 day supply of Cur-ost? The Cur-OST provides joint support through the anti-inflammatory herbs used in the product. Research BCM-85 curcurmin and arthritis and pain relief, as that is what we're trying to prevent. The boney change caused by arthritis is caused by inflammation in the joint either due to age, overuse, or injury....the condition itself is actually caused by inflammation, not vice versa. So by controlling the inflammation, we then control not only the pain, but also reduce the progression of the arthritis itself and are able to control and manage pain moreso than even bute or banamine would.
My entire feed program including my Cur-OST, my grain, and my alfalfa costs less than $8.26 per day, per horse. I had someone ask a couple of weeks ago, so I put the pencil to it.
The Cur-OST is going to provide your hose with everything needed to not only prevent arthritis from worsening, but offer support and pain relief that is already there. There is also alot of information out there about how leaky gut syndrome is tied into arthritis and so many other issues as well. I will attach a couple articles from the Nouvelle site as one example, but several more out there that aren't liked to the Cur-OST product. https://nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/articles/390-joint-dysfunction-are-injections-the-only-solution https://nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/articles/385-leaky-gut-syndrome-health-soundness
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| What type of oats? Does it matter? Rolled, crimped, whole? What about alfalfa pellets? | |
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| So as I was typing I forgot what I was gonna write.  From what I've read whole oats are the way to go. Does THE products have a website? I've tried looking them up and can't find any products from them. | |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | pepsi97 - 2015-12-08 8:33 PM So as I was typing I forgot what I was gonna write. From what I've read whole oats are the way to go. Does THE products have a website? I've tried looking them up and can't find any products from them.
Yes, I'll put a link here for you. I am a distributor and can give you some great BHW prices. I can also try and answer any questions you have. THE Muscle Mass and Performance Formula are 20% off this month (my prices too )
http://www.totalhealthenhance.com/#!products/c54h | |
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just curious, how many horses do you own and do you spend $8.26/day on all of them? | |
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Location: NE Texas | oranges - 2015-12-09 8:21 AM Herbie, just curious, how many horses do you own and do you spend $8.26/day on all of them? I have 4 horses, and yes, I do spend close to that on all of them. That estimate may be a bit high, as I calculated it off the most expensive one, and only 2 of the 4 get one of those products. I will post the message here I sent to the person that asked me how much per day it was costing me to feed.
"I have never put a pencil to it, but your question made me think, so I thought I should. Currently i'm spending $8.26 per day, per horse for all feed, hay, and my Cur-OST supplements, which comes out to $247.80 per month, per horse for everything except water. And even that is high, b/c not all hores get the one supplement, but it's only $.42 a serving, so was easier to include it than not.
I feed alfalfa hay which I pay $14 a bale for. Roughly there are about 12 flakes per bale, so that equals $1.16 per flake. I feed 2 - 3 flakes per day. Let's just say three, so that's $3.48 per day in hay.
I feed whole oats once daily and feed between 1 and 2 pounds in the evenings. My oats cost around $12 for a 50 pound sack, usually less. At a rate of 1.5 pounds per serving, that is $.36 per serving. So now with hay and feed, i'm at $3.84 per day, per horse.
With my Cur-OST, all of my horses are on the Total Support, which if you buy one bag at a time, it's $120 a 30 day supply. I ususally buy 4 at a time, so I get the price break, but I figured on the max cost, so at $120/day, that is $4.00 per serving. I have two horses who get the Adapt & Calm, which costs $25 for a 60 day supply, so that is $.42 per serving. With the two Cur-OST products costing $4.42 per day together, plus my oats and alfalfa, i'm at $8.26.
Thank you for asking, I actually enjoyed putting all of this together! I'm a nerd like that. HAHA I also figured it when I was still using the Immune & Repair as well, and the total per day including the Immune & Repair for the one horse was $12.15 per day, which would be $364.50 per month. Hopt this helps and is what you were looking for! :)"
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| Herbie - 2015-12-09 7:34 AM
oranges - 2015-12-09 8:21 AM Herbie, just curious, how many horses do you own and do you spend $8.26/day on all of them? I have 4 horses, and yes, I do spend close to that on all of them. That estimate may be a bit high, as I calculated it off the most expensive one, and only 2 of the 4 get one of those products. I will post the message here I sent to the person that asked me how much per day it was costing me to feed.
"I have never put a pencil to it, but your question made me think, so I thought I should. Currently i'm spending $8.26 per day, per horse for all feed, hay, and my Cur-OST supplements, which comes out to $247.80 per month, per horse for everything except water. And even that is high, b/c not all hores get the one supplement, but it's only $.42 a serving, so was easier to include it than not.
I feed alfalfa hay which I pay $14 a bale for. Roughly there are about 12 flakes per bale, so that equals $1.16 per flake. I feed 2 - 3 flakes per day. Let's just say three, so that's $3.48 per day in hay.
I feed whole oats once daily and feed between 1 and 2 pounds in the evenings. My oats cost around $12 for a 50 pound sack, usually less. At a rate of 1.5 pounds per serving, that is $.36 per serving. So now with hay and feed, i'm at $3.84 per day, per horse.
With my Cur-OST, all of my horses are on the Total Support, which if you buy one bag at a time, it's $120 a 30 day supply. I ususally buy 4 at a time, so I get the price break, but I figured on the max cost, so at $120/day, that is $4.00 per serving. I have two horses who get the Adapt & Calm, which costs $25 for a 60 day supply, so that is $.42 per serving. With the two Cur-OST products costing $4.42 per day together, plus my oats and alfalfa, i'm at $8.26.
Thank you for asking, I actually enjoyed putting all of this together! I'm a nerd like that. HAHA I also figured it when I was still using the Immune & Repair as well, and the total per day including the Immune & Repair for the one horse was $12.15 per day, which would be $364.50 per month. Hopt this helps and is what you were looking for! :)"
Curost prices are consistent. lol The killer for me is FORAGE. I can buy crap hay that I wouldnt feed a cow for 14.00 a bale. THe quality alfalfa I buy is 19-26.00 a bale. SINGLE BALE. Colic is far worse cost so I buy the expensive high quality hay and leave it in front of them 24/7. My allergy ridden/arthritis infested/horse with the biggest heart and gives 110% to me every run gets the FULL 2 SCOOP dose of Curost Total every day. I don't skimp!!! He was previously on previcox daily, ventipulman, Dex, etc so he could compete. Now he is just on the TOTAL support and scoop of PURE on days he runs. My colt gets ADAPT/ 1.5 scoops TOTAL/ and STOMACH on the days prior to competing and days he does compete. He is 4 and is a pleaser and gets himself worked up. lol I wish I had pasture and not having to buy all this hay. I'm not even going to add it up. Scared to. lol I will say this, people actually stop and stare at my horses.. they look amazing! | |
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