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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-12-07 10:34 AM
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Bling was purchased at a sale as a yearling......by a family friend her Uncle Steve does all the initial training....per say and Sarah is the jockey.......they are truly this years Cinderella story and she has been our hometown hero for the past several years....here in the Southeast.
They are hauling in a semi converted homemade living quarters trailer......


As for what we consider just jockeys........aka buying the good ones.........well there is one thing about it....if YOU CANNOT ride YOU CANNOT ride that caliber of horse no matter how much one pays...........and unlike other "world championships" you have to HAUL.....you don't buy a wild card and win a championship.......there is a price to pay to get where these girls are at...

Hats off to all of them........in my book they are the best of the best whether they brought their horse ride someone else or raised that thing on a bottle!!!
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Posted 2015-12-07 11:09 AM
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CJE - 2015-12-07 10:34 AM

Bling was purchased at a sale as a yearling......by a family friend her Uncle Steve does all the initial training....per say and Sarah is the jockey.......they are truly this years Cinderella story and she has been our hometown hero for the past several years....here in the Southeast.
They are hauling in a semi converted homemade living quarters trailer......


As for what we consider just jockeys........aka buying the good ones.........well there is one thing about it....if YOU CANNOT ride YOU CANNOT ride that caliber of horse no matter how much one pays...........and unlike other "world championships" you have to HAUL.....you don't buy a wild card and win a championship.......there is a price to pay to get where these girls are at...

Hats off to all of them........in my book they are the best of the best whether they brought their horse ride someone else or raised that thing on a bottle!!!

I couldn't imagine trying to ride Bling.... that's one tuff horse to keep off the barrels. Sarah's done the hard work, seasoning.... Watching Sarah run Hottie(more of a free runner), she adjusts well to a horses style, she's not as dramatic(for lack of a better word) and sits quieter.
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-12-07 11:34 AM
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FlyingJT - 2015-12-06 12:09 PM

CJE - 2015-12-07 10:34 AM

Bling was purchased at a sale as a yearling......by a family friend her Uncle Steve does all the initial training....per say and Sarah is the jockey.......they are truly this years Cinderella story and she has been our hometown hero for the past several years....here in the Southeast.
They are hauling in a semi converted homemade living quarters trailer......


As for what we consider just jockeys........aka buying the good ones.........well there is one thing about it....if YOU CANNOT ride YOU CANNOT ride that caliber of horse no matter how much one pays...........and unlike other "world championships" you have to HAUL.....you don't buy a wild card and win a championship.......there is a price to pay to get where these girls are at...

Hats off to all of them........in my book they are the best of the best whether they brought their horse ride someone else or raised that thing on a bottle!!!

I couldn't imagine trying to ride Bling.... that's one tuff horse to keep off the barrels. Sarah's done the hard work, seasoning.... Watching Sarah run Hottie(more of a free runner), she adjusts well to a horses style, she's not as dramatic(for lack of a better word) and sits quieter.

Sarah has always had lots of what I call body language even when she rode Jerry same thing.......it works for her and has surely got the crowd going wild!!!!
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LIVE2RUN
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2015-12-07 11:52 AM
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Whether you bought the "made" horse or trained it yourself, you still have to make it to the NFR, it's not just handed to you!! If I could buy the "made" horse, I would. Why not....I'm not getting any younger and I don't have the time to train on myself.
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-12-07 11:57 AM
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rodeochick382 - 2015-12-07 8:23 AM
SC Wrangler - 2015-12-06 11:54 PM There are a lot of great trainers that are not jockeys and on the flip side their are a lot of great jockeys that are not trainers.  



 
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Agree. Some trainers do not want to go down the road. The NFR is not everyones dream. Rodeoing full time is rough, I dont know that I would give it a try if someone offered to fund it for me. 

This is very true. Having traveled the rodeo road, I can tell you that it's extremely hard on marriages, family and home life. That's why you see so many divorced barrel racers. Never being home and expecting the spouse to hold it all together at home takes a special person and even at that, it can be pretty overwhelming.....especially if you're in a slump. I'm so glad for the experience, but if I ever own another horse capable of going, I'll just get a jockey and go watch. lol I can't even explain how much I admire Vicki Carter. At 63, I understand the obstacles she has just to get out of bed every morning, much less driving millions of miles and caring for a horse and competing on top of it.
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gypsykalgirl
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2015-12-07 2:22 PM
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Let us not forget when people purchase high end finished horses it fuels our "barrel racing economy." If no one is willing to pay top dollar for quality horses then whole BR economy suffers. As much as I prefer our good stallions and mares to stay in the USA, Brazil has been a major factor in boosting the barrel racing community to another level. Same with parents willing to purchase their kids quality winning horses. That being said I was always being told as a kid purchasing a horse is the cheapest part. Keeping said horse happy, sound and winning let alone being able to ride it to the same level as the previous owner/jockey is a feat. Hats off to those who can do so.  

I used to feel the same way as many. I wanted to win on my "made" horses and it had to be so much more gratifying win on your own. I have spent this year trying to get with a made horse and I have learned just how hard it is! When riding a finished horse you learn how they run and YOU have to change how you jockey. It is incredible hard to change your set ways, but at the end of the day the win is just as gratifying and my smile on my face is just as huge. 
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-12-07 2:24 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-12-06 5:11 PM I have an NFR quality horse right now. I'm male so I need a jockey to!

if you have an nfr quality horse you should not have any trouble finding a talented jockey i know several 
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2015-12-07 3:29 PM
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I love seeing all the opinions. I can envision a future like thoroughbred racing, for the top races will be handled by the top jockey on someone else top horse.
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2015-12-07 3:34 PM
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CanCan - 2015-12-06 4:46 PM It's a horse race after all, but am I the only one that sees a developing trend of jockeys at the NFR? Yes, they are great jockeys to be there. That isn't up for discussion. We are used to seeing cowgirls there or at the top level anywhere who trained the horse, or futuritied the horse, or rodeo seasoned the horse. Maybe the girl owns it; maybe she doesn't, but she DID have a hand in making the horse. There are many at the top of the sport now that bought one or more horses that already had the talent and work ethic to get there. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. We are watching barrel racing go the way of TB racing, polo and cutting. I'm not sure Brittany Pozzi, Molli Montgomery, Jackie Dube, or name 10 other top hands could afford to put a couple hundred thousand into finished horses and rigs to go down the road and not have to worry about making money at home. We need to be careful or it will be just a spectator sport.

What are you trying to say here, the girls that buy finished horses and have the truck and rigs and money to go down the road should not be riding at the NFR, just the ones that do their own training/making of the horses?   

Oh my. Nothing is wrong. Just different. Evolution of the sport. Almost a parallel track with the ERA. Same goal-different way of getting there.
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SpaceCowboy
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2015-12-07 3:37 PM
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Agree with others in that the NFR is not everyone's dream. I would imagine some of the ladies you mentioned, have figured out they can make more money in the futurity world, so maybe they are not even trying to get there like they used to.
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rpreast
Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2015-12-07 3:54 PM
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CJE - 2015-12-07 10:34 AM

Bling was purchased at a sale as a yearling......by a family friend her Uncle Steve does all the initial training....per say and Sarah is the jockey.......they are truly this years Cinderella story and she has been our hometown hero for the past several years....here in the Southeast.
They are hauling in a semi converted homemade living quarters trailer......


As for what we consider just jockeys........aka buying the good ones.........well there is one thing about it....if YOU CANNOT ride YOU CANNOT ride that caliber of horse no matter how much one pays...........and unlike other "world championships" you have to HAUL.....you don't buy a wild card and win a championship.......there is a price to pay to get where these girls are at...

Hats off to all of them........in my book they are the best of the best whether they brought their horse ride someone else or raised that thing on a bottle!!!

I am not ashamed to say I'm fairly confident that I would fly right off that mare like a shooting star! It's easy to criticize from at home. A have a strong admiration for all 15 ladies and their "jockey-ing" abilities.
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Cindy Hamilton
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-12-07 4:00 PM
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SpaceCowboy - 2015-12-07 3:37 PM Agree with others in that the NFR is not everyone's dream. I would imagine some of the ladies you mentioned, have figured out they can make more money in the futurity world, so maybe they are not even trying to get there like they used to.

Come and run at a little jackpot in Oklahoma or Texas and you'll run against a bunch of girls capable of going to the NFR if they wanted to haul...
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Posted 2015-12-07 5:17 PM
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CanCan - 2015-12-06 4:46 PM It's a horse race after all, but am I the only one that sees a developing trend of jockeys at the NFR? Yes, they are great jockeys to be there. That isn't up for discussion. We are used to seeing cowgirls there or at the top level anywhere who trained the horse, or futuritied the horse, or rodeo seasoned the horse. Maybe the girl owns it; maybe she doesn't, but she DID have a hand in making the horse. There are many at the top of the sport now that bought one or more horses that already had the talent and work ethic to get there. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. We are watching barrel racing go the way of TB racing, polo and cutting. I'm not sure Brittany Pozzi, Molli Montgomery, Jackie Dube, or name 10 other top hands could afford to put a couple hundred thousand into finished horses and rigs to go down the road and not have to worry about making money at home. We need to be careful or it will be just a spectator sport.
 What I don't understand about your statement is that has always been the case- having the financial ability and the support system to be able to go down the road- nothing has changed about that at all.  You don't have to have an expensive rig- just the horse power and talent to ride and the grit to stay on the road for a year.  This is not a case of the have and have nots.    How does someone who has better finaces keep someone who does not from trying to make the NFR??  ANYONE can figure out a way to make it happen and go down the road.  All of the ladies you named have the horsepower and the rigs- that is not what is stopping them, family, lucrative futurites etc keep them off the road.  Birttany has a very successful breeding program.  I don't get the angst about how someone made the NFR and I don't see anything to be careful about.  

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achildres
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Posted 2015-12-07 6:52 PM
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Cindy Hamilton - 2015-12-07 4:00 PM

SpaceCowboy - 2015-12-07 3:37 PM Agree with others in that the NFR is not everyone's dream. I would imagine some of the ladies you mentioned, have figured out they can make more money in the futurity world, so maybe they are not even trying to get there like they used to.

Come and run at a little jackpot in Oklahoma or Texas and you'll run against a bunch of girls capable of going to the NFR if they wanted to haul...

I can attest to this...we had a jackpot the other weekend with a NFR pattern and the fastest time was a 13.69 followed by a 13.71 (both horses owned by the same person)...
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Reg. Jul 2015
Posted 2015-12-07 6:56 PM
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achildres - 2015-12-07 6:52 PM

Cindy Hamilton - 2015-12-07 4:00 PM

SpaceCowboy - 2015-12-07 3:37 PM Agree with others in that the NFR is not everyone's dream. I would imagine some of the ladies you mentioned, have figured out they can make more money in the futurity world, so maybe they are not even trying to get there like they used to.

Come and run at a little jackpot in Oklahoma or Texas and you'll run against a bunch of girls capable of going to the NFR if they wanted to haul...

I can attest to this...we had a jackpot the other weekend with a NFR pattern and the fastest time was a 13.69 followed by a 13.71 (both horses owned by the same person)...

I've always wondered this! How many people are out there that could actually knock the socks off that arena but just don't have the time to haul to that many rodeos? Interesting, for sure!
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Posted 2015-12-07 7:04 PM
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achildres - 2015-12-07 6:52 PM
Cindy Hamilton - 2015-12-07 4:00 PM
SpaceCowboy - 2015-12-07 3:37 PM Agree with others in that the NFR is not everyone's dream. I would imagine some of the ladies you mentioned, have figured out they can make more money in the futurity world, so maybe they are not even trying to get there like they used to.
Come and run at a little jackpot in Oklahoma or Texas and you'll run against a bunch of girls capable of going to the NFR if they wanted to haul...
I can attest to this...we had a jackpot the other weekend with a NFR pattern and the fastest time was a 13.69 followed by a 13.71 (both horses owned by the same person)...

I think we were at the same place. There was also two 8's (one hit) and several 9's. I was just trying to get my goofball to run across the pen towards the tarp! 
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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-12-07 7:07 PM
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not me   no way  i know i had nerve problem i choked  but i love watching them

iits not my cup of tea   but i dang sure enjoy watching everyone of them 
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achildres
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-12-07 7:15 PM
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T-Zip - 2015-12-07 7:04 PM

achildres - 2015-12-07 6:52 PM
Cindy Hamilton - 2015-12-07 4:00 PM
SpaceCowboy - 2015-12-07 3:37 PM Agree with others in that the NFR is not everyone's dream. I would imagine some of the ladies you mentioned, have figured out they can make more money in the futurity world, so maybe they are not even trying to get there like they used to.
Come and run at a little jackpot in Oklahoma or Texas and you'll run against a bunch of girls capable of going to the NFR if they wanted to haul...
I can attest to this...we had a jackpot the other weekend with a NFR pattern and the fastest time was a 13.69 followed by a 13.71 (both horses owned by the same person)...

I think we were at the same place. There was also two 8's (one hit) and several 9's. I was just trying to get my goofball to run across the pen towards the tarp! 

Haha I didn't actually run that day but the 13.71 is my yearlings half brother so I kept up with the results from that race! Needless to say im excited for her future! We live in a pretty competitive area for sure.
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Posted 2015-12-07 7:50 PM
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achildres - 2015-12-07 6:52 PM

Cindy Hamilton - 2015-12-07 4:00 PM

SpaceCowboy - 2015-12-07 3:37 PM Agree with others in that the NFR is not everyone's dream. I would imagine some of the ladies you mentioned, have figured out they can make more money in the futurity world, so maybe they are not even trying to get there like they used to.

Come and run at a little jackpot in Oklahoma or Texas and you'll run against a bunch of girls capable of going to the NFR if they wanted to haul...

I can attest to this...we had a jackpot the other weekend with a NFR pattern and the fastest time was a 13.69 followed by a 13.71 (both horses owned by the same person)...

An NFR pattern is not the same as running at the Thomas and Mac. I doubt many of the horses who run at these NFR patterns on perfectly manicured ground could run the same time at the NFR.

Don't get me wrong, there are phenomenal horses that never rodeo, sometimes the jackpot horses suck at rodeos as they are not gritty enough, can't stand up to the hauling, the variety of ground conditions, and the atmosphere.
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I like jockeys. They keep clothes on my back, good coffee in my hand and show off my hard work on a larger scale than I typically get to.
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