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Location: Georgia | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-23 11:42 PM Pming you..
Thank you very much! I really appreciate all this info. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Runninbay - 2015-12-23 10:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-23 11:42 PM Pming you..
Thank you very much! I really appreciate all this info.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Flys will transmit pigeon fever. They land on one horse who has it, flys to the next horse and transmits it. It is a summer time desease though and unless it's been really warm and dry where you are and still have flys I wouldnt think thats what you have. |
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Location: Georgia | ThreeCorners - 2015-12-24 6:21 AM Flys will transmit pigeon fever. They land on one horse who has it, flys to the next horse and transmits it. It is a summer time desease though and unless it's been really warm and dry where you are and still have flys I wouldnt think thats what you have.
It's been a very warm fall here. For example, today the high is 75 and tomorrow is 80. But it really hasn't been all that wet aside from the past few days of heavy rain. But it hasn't been dry either. The flies were very bad this year though. So I probably wouldn't rule it out.
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Location: Oklahoma | ThreeCorners - 2015-12-24 5:21 AM Flys will transmit pigeon fever. They land on one horse who has it, flys to the next horse and transmits it. It is a summer time desease though and unless it's been really warm and dry where you are and still have flys I wouldnt think thats what you have.
This is what I was thinking. My gelding got it in Jan a few years back out here in Oklahoma. It started out a lot like this horse.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Runninbay how is your boy doing today? Been thinking about him. Hope that hes feeling better. |
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Location: texas | my gelding did that a few days after getting th west nile shot. i never gave it again after that. my thoughts are pigdeon fever too but I thought antibiotics drove the infection inward and it was best to let it come out of the body. im not really too informed but just what I remember hearing |
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Location: Georgia | Hey guys, sorry it's been a few days since I've posted. The vet had us start him on an oral antibiotic on Wednesday. Then, after seeing no improvement from that, we administered an injectable antibiotic yesterday (Friday) morning. I forget the name of it but it was thick with a creamy color. It was not penicillin. We are supposed to give another dose on Tuesday. However, I think if we don't see any improvement by Monday we are going to request an ultrasound before giving the second shot. We have mentioned pigeon fever to our vet but she just doesn't believe that's what it is. I'm still not convinced. The top of the swelling is now between his front legs. So needless to say, it is moving pretty rapidly. Good news is that he continues to eat and behave normally. He seems alert and active. His temp seems to be under control now. Doesn't seem depressed or sluggish. I'm just hoping something gives soon and we will have an answer for all of this. I'm going to take some updated pictures tomorrow and post them here. Thank you to those who have pmed me with your personal experiences with this! They have been very helpful. |
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Location: OH. IO | Thamks for the update.continued prayers. |
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| hope he's doing well. It sounds like they gave you exceed. Its thicker than pen and you give the 2nd dose 4? days after the 1st. I'm wondering about pigeon fever also.. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Runninbay - 2015-12-26 11:44 PM Hey guys, sorry it's been a few days since I've posted. The vet had us start him on an oral antibiotic on Wednesday. Then, after seeing no improvement from that, we administered an injectable antibiotic yesterday (Friday) morning. I forget the name of it but it was thick with a creamy color. It was not penicillin. We are supposed to give another dose on Tuesday. However, I think if we don't see any improvement by Monday we are going to request an ultrasound before giving the second shot. We have mentioned pigeon fever to our vet but she just doesn't believe that's what it is. I'm still not convinced. The top of the swelling is now between his front legs. So needless to say, it is moving pretty rapidly. Good news is that he continues to eat and behave normally. He seems alert and active. His temp seems to be under control now. Doesn't seem depressed or sluggish. I'm just hoping something gives soon and we will have an answer for all of this. I'm going to take some updated pictures tomorrow and post them here. Thank you to those who have pmed me with your personal experiences with this! They have been very helpful.
Been thinking alot about your boy. Continued prayers.
Any update? |
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Location: Georgia | RoaniePonie11 - 2015-12-28 7:38 AM hope he's doing well. It sounds like they gave you exceed. Its thicker than pen and you give the 2nd dose 4? days after the 1st. I'm wondering about pigeon fever also..
Yes! I found the label in the trash and it was Excede. Talk about expensive...sheesh. But if its works, its worth it. I haven't looked at him today because I had to leave early for work. But my mom went over and checked on him this morning and all is well. She did say he looks less alert today. I'm sure he is just getting real tired of us poking him and putting stuff in his mouth. I got pictures last night but it's hard to tell anything. I'm going to try to post a few though. Last night the swelling between his legs didnt look as if it had progressed any, so I pray maybe something is working.
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Location: Georgia | I made a collage so I would only have to upload one picture lol.
Edited to add: please excuse the black marks. We have been using sharpie to mark the swelling.
Edited by Runninbay 2015-12-28 2:38 PM
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | I'm with SouthTexasPonyGirl on the Pigeon Fever. I had 3 out of 11 get it here. 2 got it one summer and the 3rd the following summer about 3 years ago. None are pastured together either which is weird how they contracted it, but their pasture mates didn't. At any rate, the 2 mares popped on their own and drained easily. Theirs was confined to their belly. We had them on antibiotics and kept the drain area clean. My poor gelding suffered. It moved all over his body starting in his sheath, to his stomach, legs and probably lasted 3 weeks or longer. It finally blew out on his chest and he still has a scar. We hauled him to the vet several times, but he was never at a point where they could lance it. He was on antibiotics as well, and my husband rubbed the swollen areas down with DMSO.
I wish you luck. The upside to pigeon fever is once they get it, they can't contract it again.
ETA: We also would put hot compresses on the area 2x a day to help draw the pus out before rubbing the DMSO. I honestly don't know if this helped him or not, but it made us feel better. Ha-ha!
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| Before anymore antibiotics, I would get a vet to lance it, send a culture away, then flush 40 litres of salane through another incision to get the pus out of his system.
Right now the dead tissue, infection has nowhere to go, the poor horse cannot absorb all of that, he needs a drain put in |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Runninbay - 2015-12-28 2:35 PM I made a collage so I would only have to upload one picture lol.
Edited to add: please excuse the black marks. We have been using sharpie to mark the swelling.
Holy wow that looks really painful, so what is the Vet saying now to all that swelling? And did you get my PM, just wondering. |
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Location: Georgia | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-28 7:32 PM Runninbay - 2015-12-28 2:35 PM I made a collage so I would only have to upload one picture lol.
Edited to add: please excuse the black marks. We have been using sharpie to mark the swelling.
Holy wow that looks really painful, so what is the Vet saying now to all that swelling? And did you get my PM, just wondering.
Yes I did! I'm sorry, I just realized I never replied. Right after I got it I went to googling a million different things lol. My vet thinks that because his fever has become more stable, that the antibiotics are having an effect. For those of you that have dealt with pf, did your horses have a fever until it drained out? The vet is really urging us to give him the second dose of Excede and go from there. So as of now, he is getting the shot tomorrow. I have mentioned getting a culture of the fluid in the pockets but she said its only edema. She doesn't believe there is any pus in the pockets at all so there would be nothing to culture in her professional opinion. She is a good vet and I'm trusting her to take us down the right path. What would you guys do if this was your horse?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Runninbay - 2015-12-28 6:49 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-28 7:32 PM Runninbay - 2015-12-28 2:35 PM I made a collage so I would only have to upload one picture lol.
Edited to add: please excuse the black marks. We have been using sharpie to mark the swelling.
Holy wow that looks really painful, so what is the Vet saying now to all that swelling? And did you get my PM, just wondering.
I understand that you trust your Vet, but if this was my horse I would want at least a second opinion befor I pumped any more meds into him. Poor guy this has got to be so painful for him. |
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| Runninbay - 2015-12-28 6:49 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-28 7:32 PM Runninbay - 2015-12-28 2:35 PM I made a collage so I would only have to upload one picture lol.
Edited to add: please excuse the black marks. We have been using sharpie to mark the swelling.
Holy wow that looks really painful, so what is the Vet saying now to all that swelling? And did you get my PM, just wondering.
Has she ultrasounded the abscess? If not she cannot say it is just edema, and isn't competent.
Pigeon fever is a sister to strangles, both strep infections.
In both my vet texts it says it needs to be lanced, and it is highly contagious so the horse must be isolated from others once the disease begins to shed, runny nose, or drainage.
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