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Location: In my own little world | Well..since "Bear" is oh his own mission I might as well give him some more to pick apart that is not based on traditional modern medicine. I have a horse that just didn't fire part of the summer and fall. I was suspicious there were issues so i sent in GASP!!!! hair for a hair analysis. My suspicions were confirmed by the analysis with a couple other issues as well. All things I had been mentioning to the vet during the summer but he said he wasn't finding anything. So I put him on some herbal formulations to begin detoxing his kidneys and starting to deal with his hindgut, yep (more wichcraft!) Also had a chiro appt and the chiro also does some laser treatment on acupoints and alas she found him sore in the kidney area and his gut. (but that's witchcraft too!) A week later at a rodeo, he ran a very nice pattern but was very sluggish and just no get up and go. I know what he is capable of running in this pen on that specific pattern because it is the local "go to' arena. I had to make a run the next night as well and I could tell his belly was tender when I was warming up, but as I was leading him before I ran the toxins were flushing out of him leaving a film on my fingers when I rubbed his coat and even sending puss out his eyes (not sure what that slick, white film could be other than toxins and I suppose a Negative Nelly could say the puss was from a cold or infection or some other thing and was just a coincidence) but I decided I needed to relieve some stress on his gut so I looked up where the meridans for kidneys and hindgut were (there is a downloadable app for them), had a gal that was entered come patch him (no I am not a dealer!) and let him set until slack. He went in running the same pattern as the night before but clocked half a second faster. And the winning time was within a few hundredths of what it was the 1st night. Again could it have been a fluke, I guess, but his grouchy attitude disappeared as well (and a sore gut brings a sour attitude, a happy gut leads to a happier horse.) Then went to the vet and guess what the vet finally found. Some kidney issues and some ulcers. Imagine that! Didn't tell him about any prior hair analysis or any indication other that this horse does not feel well. So even tho I do not get paid by any of these modalities, I gave them all a whirl and they all came to the same conclusions, and my horse is finally healling. So believe what you want but I've about had it with a lot of traditional medicine and the expense of it, both human and horse. Talk about gouging you in the pocket book, let's visit about that for a while! And I'm sure when traditional medicine started to make it's appearance, the chinese herbalists of yesteryear probably thought that was all a hoax as well.
And all those companies advertising and paying people to endorse them, I hope my venture tomorrow comes with good reviews because I'm off to find an accupunturist who will work on a horse with some nerve damage and see if it can be stimulated enough so he can eat without looking like a 110 year old man who has had a severe stoke with paralysis. And I'm putting magnets on him too. Sure hope that will work as well because so far I haven't had any luck with what veterinary medicine has suggested, which mind you has been very limited.
Just call me a hopeless brainwashed headcase who used to believe in none of this but have since done enough research to realize there are alternatives, have become open minded rather than shallow in my beliefs and decided we need to investigate for ourselves and if something different works then great. It is nothing different that a traditional Dr starting with one treatment that didn't work and then moving to something else and going on down the line until he hopefully finds the right solution. If you choose not to use it, that is fine with me as well but I'm not going to throw it in your face just because it is not something you choose to practice. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions, but to the OP, give it a try and see for yourself. You might find it works and you might find it doesn't target the issue you are wanting help with. Only you will be able to solve and be satisfied with it. And I can't say I saw a ton of the NFR barrel horses sporting patches but I did see a couple of timed event horses that were patched. Don't know if they got paid for that or not, but I do know a lot of the sponsorships and endorsements are not paid, they are provided with product and if it is just product, why would you use it if there is nothing in it for you other than it works for you.
Guess I should find an animal communicator now and see what she says about the nerve damage....bahahahahahahaha!!! | |
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Location: Missouri | I can't tell you for sure about them working on horses but I have terrible back issues and have a hard time sleeping at night I was also hurting trying to walk, I got patched and within a few minutes I was no longer hurting and slept fantastic! | |
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Location: Midwest | Why do people get bent out of shape when folks don't believe in some sort of alternative therapy?
I see someone above that doesn't like doctors or vets. Okay, whatevs.
I don't agree, but I really don't care what other people choose to do regarding their animals, (including *GASP* NFR riders) as long as we aren't talking about abuse.
My disbelief in a product is not a judgement of someone who believes in said product. Goodness gracious. | |
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| ropenrun - 2015-12-30 3:06 AM
Well..since "Bear" is oh his own mission I might as well give him some more to pick apart that is not based on traditional modern medicine.  I have a horse that just didn't fire part of the summer and fall.  I was suspicious there were issues so i sent in GASP!!!! hair for a hair analysis.  My suspicions were confirmed by the analysis with a couple other issues as well.  All things I had been mentioning to the vet during the summer but he said he wasn't finding anything.  So I put him on some herbal formulations to begin detoxing his kidneys and starting to deal with his hindgut, yep (more wichcraft!)  Also had a chiro appt and the chiro also does some laser treatment  on acupoints and alas she found him sore in the kidney area and his gut. (but that's witchcraft too!) A week later at a rodeo, he ran a very nice pattern but was very sluggish and just no get up and go. I know what he is capable of running in this pen on that specific pattern because it is the local "go to' arena.  I had to make a run the next night as well and I could tell his belly was tender when I was warming up, but as I was leading him  before I ran the toxins were flushing out of him leaving a film on my fingers  when I rubbed his coat and even sending puss out his eyes (not sure what that slick, white film could be other than toxins and I suppose a Negative Nelly could say the puss was from a cold or infection or some other thing and was just a coincidence)  but I decided I needed to relieve some stress on his gut so I looked up where the meridans for kidneys and hindgut were (there is a downloadable app for them), had a gal that was entered come patch him (no I am not a dealer!) and let him set until slack.  He went in running the same pattern as the night  before  but clocked half a second faster. And the winning time was within a few hundredths of what it was the 1st night. Again could it have been a fluke, I guess, but his grouchy attitude disappeared as well (and a sore gut brings a sour attitude, a happy gut leads to a happier horse.) Then went to the vet and guess what the vet finally found.  Some kidney issues and some ulcers.  Imagine that!  Didn't tell him about any prior hair analysis or any indication other that this horse does not feel well.  So even tho I do not get paid by any of these modalities, I gave them all a whirl and they all came to the same conclusions, and my horse is finally healling.  So believe what you want but I've about had it with a lot of traditional medicine and the expense of it, both human and horse.  Talk about gouging you in the pocket book, let's visit about that for a while!  And I'm sure when traditional medicine started to make it's appearance, the chinese herbalists of yesteryear probably thought that was all a hoax as well. Â
And all those companies advertising and paying people to endorse them, I hope my venture tomorrow comes with good reviews because I'm off to find an accupunturist who will work on a horse with some nerve damage and see if it can be stimulated enough so he can eat without looking like a 110 year old man who has had a severe stoke with paralysis. Â And I'm putting magnets on him too. Â Â Sure hope that will work as well because so far I haven't had any luck with what veterinary medicine has suggested, which mind you has been very limited. Â
Just call me a hopeless brainwashed headcase who used to believe in none of this but have since done enough research to realize there are alternatives, have become open minded rather than shallow in my beliefs and decided we need to investigate for ourselves and if something different works then great. Â It is nothing different that a traditional Dr starting with one treatment that didn't work and then moving to something else and going on down the line until he hopefully finds the right solution. Â If you choose not to use it, that is fine with me as well but I'm not going to throw it in your face just because it is not something you choose to practice. Â Yes we are all entitled to our opinions, but to the OP, give it a try and see for yourself. Â You might find it works and you might find it doesn't target the issue you are wanting help with. Â Only you will be able to solve and be satisfied with it. Â And I can't say I saw a ton of the NFR barrel horses sporting patches but I did see a couple of timed event horses that were patched. Â Don't know if they got paid for that or not, but I do know a lot of the sponsorships and endorsements are not paid, they are provided with product and if it is just product, why would you use it if there is nothing in it for you other than it works for you.
Guess I should find an animal communicator now and see what she says about the nerve damage....bahahahahahahaha!!!
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-12-30 8:04 AM
Why do people get bent out of shape when folks don't believe in some sort of alternative therapy?
I see someone above that doesn't like doctors or vets. Okay, whatevs.
I don't agree, but I really don't care what other people choose to do regarding their animals, (including *GASP* NFR riders) as long as we aren't talking about abuse.
My disbelief in a product is not a judgement of someone who believes in said product. Goodness gracious.
Because you and Bear start insinuating we are a bunch of idiots and just wasting our money. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me and even points out the reasons why. That doesn't bother me because then I can research in that direction. What bothers me is when you are presented with positive changes and still tell us we are idiots for thinking the alternative therapy is helping and we should just throw our money away. I respect your reasons for not trusting the alternative methods, but you two do not even try to show us any respect for being desperate and trying something new when the allopathic medicine practices have failed us. If you notice, most of us have only tried these alternative methods when western medicine has failed us. | |
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| streakysox - 2015-12-29 7:24 PM Martha Josey is a very good friend. I have known her since 1964. She endorses them and sells them. I will be sure and let her know that people think pro barrel racers don't have enough sense to figure out what actually works the next time I go out to eat with her and RE. She will certainly get a laugh out of it. I know that they work on me.
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| GLP - 2015-12-30 6:40 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-12-30 8:04 AM Why do people get bent out of shape when folks don't believe in some sort of alternative therapy? I see someone above that doesn't like doctors or vets. Okay, whatevs. I don't agree, but I really don't care what other people choose to do regarding their animals, (including *GASP* NFR riders) as long as we aren't talking about abuse. My disbelief in a product is not a judgement of someone who believes in said product. Goodness gracious. Because you and Bear start insinuating we are a bunch of idiots and just wasting our money. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me and even points out the reasons why. That doesn't bother me because then I can research in that direction. What bothers me is when you are presented with positive changes and still tell us we are idiots for thinking the alternative therapy is helping and we should just throw our money away. I respect your reasons for not trusting the alternative methods, but you two do not even try to show us any respect for being desperate and trying something new when the allopathic medicine practices have failed us. If you notice, most of us have only tried these alternative methods when western medicine has failed us.
Just my opinion and observation after more than 20 years in the equine therapy business... those who need to exaggerate the "truth" are usually defending something they aren't solidly educated about. Just sayin....
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | GLP - 2015-12-30 8:40 AM
barrelracr131 - 2015-12-30 8:04 AM
Why do people get bent out of shape when folks don't believe in some sort of alternative therapy?
I see someone above that doesn't like doctors or vets. Okay, whatevs.
I don't agree, but I really don't care what other people choose to do regarding their animals, (including *GASP* NFR riders) as long as we aren't talking about abuse.
My disbelief in a product is not a judgement of someone who believes in said product. Goodness gracious.
Because you and Bear start insinuating we are a bunch of idiots and just wasting our money. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me and even points out the reasons why. That doesn't bother me because then I can research in that direction. What bothers me is when you are presented with positive changes and still tell us we are idiots for thinking the alternative therapy is helping and we should just throw our money away. I respect your reasons for not trusting the alternative methods, but you two do not even try to show us any respect for being desperate and trying something new when the allopathic medicine practices have failed us. If you notice, most of us have only tried these alternative methods when western medicine has failed us.
We've been down this road before on here, umpteen times. I don't really care to waste much more time and energy debunking this modality. Like I said, go ahead and give it a try. If it works for you, then that's great. If it doesn't, then you haven't done any harm, and you have wasted a small amount of money. If it makes you feel better to trash my profession, then have at it. I happen to believe in science and the scientific method. Testimonials are not scientific proof. I'm always leary of pyramid schemes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this product sold via a multilevel marketing scheme? Seems to me, I've read that it is, but I could be wrong. I'm open to hearing about some actual evidence that it works, as well as an explanation in your own words, rather than a C&P. The main reason I even chime in on these threads is that I just might prevent a few people from wasting their hard earned money on dubious remedies.
Someone mentioned hair analysis, for example. A lot of people swear by it. I can see how they might believe it might be useful, but then I read something like this article that is one of many that serves to relegate this modality to the ash heap of proven quackery:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4021042 | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ropenrun - 2015-12-30 3:06 AM
Well..since "Bear" is oh his own mission I might as well give him some more to pick apart that is not based on traditional modern medicine.  I have a horse that just didn't fire part of the summer and fall.  I was suspicious there were issues so i sent in GASP!!!! hair for a hair analysis.  My suspicions were confirmed by the analysis with a couple other issues as well.  All things I had been mentioning to the vet during the summer but he said he wasn't finding anything.  So I put him on some herbal formulations to begin detoxing his kidneys and starting to deal with his hindgut, yep (more wichcraft!)  Also had a chiro appt and the chiro also does some laser treatment  on acupoints and alas she found him sore in the kidney area and his gut. (but that's witchcraft too!) A week later at a rodeo, he ran a very nice pattern but was very sluggish and just no get up and go. I know what he is capable of running in this pen on that specific pattern because it is the local "go to' arena.  I had to make a run the next night as well and I could tell his belly was tender when I was warming up, but as I was leading him  before I ran the toxins were flushing out of him leaving a film on my fingers  when I rubbed his coat and even sending puss out his eyes (not sure what that slick, white film could be other than toxins and I suppose a Negative Nelly could say the puss was from a cold or infection or some other thing and was just a coincidence)  but I decided I needed to relieve some stress on his gut so I looked up where the meridans for kidneys and hindgut were (there is a downloadable app for them), had a gal that was entered come patch him (no I am not a dealer!) and let him set until slack.  He went in running the same pattern as the night  before  but clocked half a second faster. And the winning time was within a few hundredths of what it was the 1st night. Again could it have been a fluke, I guess, but his grouchy attitude disappeared as well (and a sore gut brings a sour attitude, a happy gut leads to a happier horse.) Then went to the vet and guess what the vet finally found.  Some kidney issues and some ulcers.  Imagine that!  Didn't tell him about any prior hair analysis or any indication other that this horse does not feel well.  So even tho I do not get paid by any of these modalities, I gave them all a whirl and they all came to the same conclusions, and my horse is finally healling.  So believe what you want but I've about had it with a lot of traditional medicine and the expense of it, both human and horse.  Talk about gouging you in the pocket book, let's visit about that for a while!  And I'm sure when traditional medicine started to make it's appearance, the chinese herbalists of yesteryear probably thought that was all a hoax as well. Â
And all those companies advertising and paying people to endorse them, I hope my venture tomorrow comes with good reviews because I'm off to find an accupunturist who will work on a horse with some nerve damage and see if it can be stimulated enough so he can eat without looking like a 110 year old man who has had a severe stoke with paralysis. Â And I'm putting magnets on him too. Â Â Sure hope that will work as well because so far I haven't had any luck with what veterinary medicine has suggested, which mind you has been very limited. Â
Just call me a hopeless brainwashed headcase who used to believe in none of this but have since done enough research to realize there are alternatives, have become open minded rather than shallow in my beliefs and decided we need to investigate for ourselves and if something different works then great. Â It is nothing different that a traditional Dr starting with one treatment that didn't work and then moving to something else and going on down the line until he hopefully finds the right solution. Â If you choose not to use it, that is fine with me as well but I'm not going to throw it in your face just because it is not something you choose to practice. Â Yes we are all entitled to our opinions, but to the OP, give it a try and see for yourself. Â You might find it works and you might find it doesn't target the issue you are wanting help with. Â Only you will be able to solve and be satisfied with it. Â And I can't say I saw a ton of the NFR barrel horses sporting patches but I did see a couple of timed event horses that were patched. Â Don't know if they got paid for that or not, but I do know a lot of the sponsorships and endorsements are not paid, they are provided with product and if it is just product, why would you use it if there is nothing in it for you other than it works for you.
Guess I should find an animal communicator now and see what she says about the nerve damage....bahahahahahahaha!!!
This is a nice illustration.
- hair analysis
-herbal formulations
- detoxification/ detoxing kidneys.
-laser treatments to localize kidney and hind gut pain
-application of hind gut meridians
-feeling the toxins leaving your horse with your fingertips, right before your run.
I wish someone would explain these "toxins" to me. What are they? What is their composition? Who identifies them, and how? It's a serious question. I'm trying to understand. How does one target the "detoxification"? I've dealt with renal diseases all my life and I transplanted kidneys in people who could have benefitted from your new technological advances. I've never heard of this targeted detoxification before. Please explain this to us. | |
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Location: Midwest | GLP - 2015-12-30 8:40 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-12-30 8:04 AM Why do people get bent out of shape when folks don't believe in some sort of alternative therapy? I see someone above that doesn't like doctors or vets. Okay, whatevs. I don't agree, but I really don't care what other people choose to do regarding their animals, (including *GASP* NFR riders) as long as we aren't talking about abuse. My disbelief in a product is not a judgement of someone who believes in said product. Goodness gracious. Because you and Bear start insinuating we are a bunch of idiots and just wasting our money. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me and even points out the reasons why. That doesn't bother me because then I can research in that direction. What bothers me is when you are presented with positive changes and still tell us we are idiots for thinking the alternative therapy is helping and we should just throw our money away. I respect your reasons for not trusting the alternative methods, but you two do not even try to show us any respect for being desperate and trying something new when the allopathic medicine practices have failed us. If you notice, most of us have only tried these alternative methods when western medicine has failed us.
Please show me where I called anyone an idiot. I doubt you will be able to, and I'm sorry if you felt I "insinuated" this about anyone. There are lots of reasons why people try alternative therapies, and I don't think those reasons are stupid. I respect the fact that people are trying to help their horses... And I think that's what we are all trying to do. We all have that in common here. Just because we don't agree on the methods does not mean I am judging you as a human being.
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| trickster j - 2015-12-30 9:06 AM
GLP - 2015-12-30 6:40 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-12-30 8:04 AM Why do people get bent out of shape when folks don't believe in some sort of alternative therapy? I see someone above that doesn't like doctors or vets. Okay, whatevs. I don't agree, but I really don't care what other people choose to do regarding their animals, (including *GASP* NFR riders) as long as we aren't talking about abuse. My disbelief in a product is not a judgement of someone who believes in said product. Goodness gracious. Because you and Bear start insinuating we are a bunch of idiots and just wasting our money. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me and even points out the reasons why. That doesn't bother me because then I can research in that direction. What bothers me is when you are presented with positive changes and still tell us we are idiots for thinking the alternative therapy is helping and we should just throw our money away. I respect your reasons for not trusting the alternative methods, but you two do not even try to show us any respect for being desperate and trying something new when the allopathic medicine practices have failed us. If you notice, most of us have only tried these alternative methods when western medicine has failed us.
Just my opinion and observation after more than 20 years in the equine therapy business... those who need to exaggerate the "truth" are usually defending something they aren't solidly educated about. Â Just sayin.... Â Â
Every time someone posts about alternative therapies, he posts something negative. I do admit most times he starts out with reasons why he doesn't believe in them, which I have no problems with. I can research his reasons and see if I agree. This is just my opinion and experience. It is a good thing to question. | |
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Location: Alabama | It's hard to say without seeing and working on the horse, I am a distributor so feel free to contact me with any further questions.
In my experience each horse reacts differently, and the level and depth of the issue reflect your result... I'll attach my testimony on them, I was very skeptical, actually amused by people who use "those stupid stickers" till I used them myself
I had seen the aculife patches for a while & was very skeptical... I would laugh thinking how are those stickers helping exactly it that's a load of BS, stickers aren't helping your horse someone's taking your money.
I attended a clinic with my older horse Fly, he was a 1D barrel horse but had been rodeod hard and not had a lot of care taken of him & he was 21 & a basket case(the kind that make barrel horses have a bad name) & he was bad at dropping and shouldering. He unloaded and first run he clocked a 16.4. We worked ALL day the next day from 7am -7 pm never getting off them.
The next day we were getting ready & warming up and Fly was so stiff and sore that he could not trot a circle.... After less than 2 minuets I stepped off him and took him to I saddle, I found the clinician and told them that I wouldn't be riding today as my horse was hurting. They then asked me, we wanted to do a demo with the aculife patches and wanted to use my horse. I told them sure, thinking if you wanna put those stupid stickers on my horse you go right ahead.
He patches him from head to tail, in the points he showed pain and discomfort, along with the stress and anxiety release point, cause we'd all seen Fly raring, lounging & having fits all weekend. They then told me okay. Go saddle back up an get on. I did and he felt obviously better, still not convicted I though it's just cause he's been out of the stall and has loosened up. We worked the ready off that Sunday, till lunch. We took a break then began to get ready for our final runs. As time rolled around to run, i got nervous preparing for Fly to do his usual rare, lounge and come running from the back 40, not caring who or what he ran into & over. They called me to run, Fly began to prance but not rare, no jerk, no lounge. As he was running I remember think got he feels great, he was smooth, collected & working. As he shut of the clock I could hardy breath, looking up and seeing the time come in at a 15.2 second run. He was the only horse in the 1D, closets horse to him was a 15.9, Almost a second off of his run.
I bought a couple packs of the patches and use them when he seemed to not be feeling himself or stiff. He has never ran as well as he did with the aculife patches on. | |
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| trickster j - 2015-12-30 9:00 AM
streakysox - 2015-12-29 7:24 PM Martha Josey is a very good friend. I have known her since 1964. She endorses them and sells them. I will be sure and let her know that people think pro barrel racers don't have enough sense to figure out what actually works the next time I go out to eat with her and RE. She will certainly get a laugh out of it. I know that they work on me.
LOL- the name dropping....... Â Â
I think what I was trying to point out here is that Martha Josey sells and endorses the patches. When they were trying to recruit distributors, they were having presentations at there place weekly. You don't have any big name friends? | |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | GLP - 2015-12-30 8:40 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-12-30 8:04 AM Why do people get bent out of shape when folks don't believe in some sort of alternative therapy? I see someone above that doesn't like doctors or vets. Okay, whatevs. I don't agree, but I really don't care what other people choose to do regarding their animals, (including *GASP* NFR riders) as long as we aren't talking about abuse. My disbelief in a product is not a judgement of someone who believes in said product. Goodness gracious. Because you and Bear start insinuating we are a bunch of idiots and just wasting our money. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me and even points out the reasons why. That doesn't bother me because then I can research in that direction. What bothers me is when you are presented with positive changes and still tell us we are idiots for thinking the alternative therapy is helping and we should just throw our money away. I respect your reasons for not trusting the alternative methods, but you two do not even try to show us any respect for being desperate and trying something new when the allopathic medicine practices have failed us. If you notice, most of us have only tried these alternative methods when western medicine has failed us.
thank you, sista!! Can I have an amen! And where in the world did I or anyone else say they don't "like vets or doctors"? I only said it irritates me that so often doctors are rude and/or crude about their judgements of alternative therapies. Yes, calling something "quackery" is rude, to me. If you don't believe it works, fine, but don't belittle my beliefs and experience with name-calling. It doesn't suit you, Bear. And as for the money spent on getting patched 3 times? (($30)...I rode well enough to place on 2 horses in both long go's, and the short go...seems like a pretty good investment, looking back... | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I'm still waiting for something to convince me they work. I see a lot of vitriol directed at doubters and lots of stories, but not a shread of real evidence that makes me re-think my opinion. I'm open to anyone willing to provide me with some objective evidence. I know a lot of people who have tried them and say they didn't have any effect.
The only thing that impresses me so far is the tenacity and anger of the distributors involved with this multilevel marketing scheme. Knowing how these pyramid schemes work, I'm not surprised.
Are Aculife patches advertisers on BHW?
I've actually tried a few alternative therapies in the past. Most were a waste of money, in my experience. The jury is still out on a couple, as far as I'm concerned.
Try this: explain how they work. | |
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| Â If something doesn't have any scientific data to explain how it works... I pass. There are plenty of alternative therapies that have been studied. Take turmeric for an example. There has been quite a few studies about curcumin, so yes I do feed turmeric because of that. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I'm still waiting for something to convince me they work. I see a lot of vitriol directed at doubters and lots of stories, but not a shread of real evidence that makes me re-think my opinion. I'm open to anyone willing to provide me with some objective evidence. I know a lot of people who have tried them and say they didn't have any effect.
The only thing that impresses me so far is the tenacity and anger of the distributors involved with this multilevel marketing scheme. Knowing how these pyramid schemes work, I'm not surprised.
Are Aculife patches advertisers on BHW?
I've actually tried a few alternative therapies in the past. Most were a waste of money, in my experience. The jury is still out on a couple, as far as I'm concerned.
Try this: explain how they work. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | WetSaddleBlankets - 2015-12-31 4:12 AM
 If something doesn't have any scientific data to explain how it works... I pass. There are plenty of alternative therapies that have been studied. Take turmeric for an example. There has been quite a few studies about curcumin, so yes I do feed turmeric because of that.
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