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| The reason men cannot barrel race is it is a women's professional rodeo event. Prca allows the barrel racing event to take place at their rodeos.
Since it is a women's association it would be like a man entering women's tennis, women's golf.
It will be interesting to see in the years to come if transgendered or sex changed individuals will be able to enter |
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Location: The Great Northwest | ThreeCorners - 2016-01-01 3:38 AM
Impossible for a guy to run barrels in the ERA because they are a leech using the PRCA rodeo's to "qualify" into the ERA and the WPRA is the governing body of the barrel racing at PRCA rodeo's.
That being said, let us not forget The American may only be one rodeo, but in reality it is 2 because of the semi finals, but it is the only rodeo you can win 1.1 Million!! Thats quite a few years of hauling and winning in earnings by going the NFR route. Makes more sence to me to have to make only 4 runs of your life for that $Million then the 80 to get to the NFR, the NFR's 10 rounds and spread over a 5 year span to make the same money.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | cheryl makofka - 2015-12-31 10:17 AM The reason men cannot barrel race is it is a women's professional rodeo event. Prca allows the barrel racing event to take place at their rodeos. Since it is a women's association it would be like a man entering women's tennis, women's golf. It will be interesting to see in the years to come if transgendered or sex changed individuals will be able to enter
Ughhhhh I didn't even think about that.... Here we go again.... someone will get butt hurt for not having equal rights... I hate that people think they're entitled because they are the minority.... |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | cheryl makofka - 2015-12-31 10:17 AM The reason men cannot barrel race is it is a women's professional rodeo event. Prca allows the barrel racing event to take place at their rodeos. Since it is a women's association it would be like a man entering women's tennis, women's golf. It will be interesting to see in the years to come if transgendered or sex changed individuals will be able to enter
Not exactly. Tennis or golf, or any other athletic event, measure an individual's physical abillities against another. Most men will have more upper body strength and can swing a tennis racket or golf club to generate more power than most women. **Most** being the keyword. So, competition is gender specific. I think it's more akin to women and men competing in Olympic Show Jumping, which is allowed.
I understand your point that the association is a women's association, tho. |
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Location: MD | cheryl makofka - 2015-12-31 10:17 AM
The reason men cannot barrel race is it is a women's professional rodeo event. Prca allows the barrel racing event to take place at their rodeos.
Since it is a women's association it would be like a man entering women's tennis, women's golf.
It will be interesting to see in the years to come if transgendered or sex changed individuals will be able to enter
Actually, they used to allow male to female trans persons to become members of the WPRA, but language was changed to allow only naturally born females many years ago |
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Location: The edge of no where | The more the merrier! Let them enter up, I think it's silly to make it a women's only event. After looking at so many of the issues the WPRA seems to have....perhaps adding men to the mix would help be able to make ground conditions more of a focus? There's continual WRPA drama - maybe adding some men to the mix would help. At the end of the day, it seems rather odd that women can and do join the PRCA - but the WPRA will not allow men to compete. JMO |
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| MS2011 - 2015-12-31 11:32 AM
The more the merrier! Let them enter up, I think it's silly to make it a women's only event. After looking at so many of the issues the WPRA seems to have....perhaps adding men to the mix would help be able to make ground conditions more of a focus? There's continual WRPA drama - maybe adding some men to the mix would help. At the end of the day, it seems rather odd that women can and do join the PRCA - but the WPRA will not allow men to compete. JMO
To be the Devil's advocate here .... what would be the difference between the WPRA and the PRCA if you allowed men into the WPRA?
hint, hint. nothing.
So, who cares, IMPO. Men can barrel race in other associations. Leave the WPRA alone and let 'em govern themselves how they wish. |
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Location: Kansas | I can assure you spectators do not come to see men barrel racers and it's all about spectators in the sport of rodeo if you want to keep winning money. We won't ride your bulls or rope your calves if you don't run our barrels.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Frodo - 2015-12-31 12:35 PM
I can assure you spectators do not come to see men barrel racers and it's all about spectators in the sport of rodeo if you want to keep winning money. We won't ride your bulls or rope your calves if you don't run our barrels.
Actually, PRCA allows women to compete in those events, if they want. And, I believe WPRA also has those events... with, of course, women competing in them, lol. |
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Location: Kansas | Nita - 2015-12-31 12:37 PM Frodo - 2015-12-31 12:35 PM I can assure you spectators do not come to see men barrel racers and it's all about spectators in the sport of rodeo if you want to keep winning money. We won't ride your bulls or rope your calves if you don't run our barrels. Actually, PRCA allows women to compete in those events, if they want. And, I believe WPRA also has those events... with, of course, women competing in them, lol.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Frodo - 2015-12-31 12:44 PM
Nita - 2015-12-31 12:37 PM Frodo - 2015-12-31 12:35 PM I can assure you spectators do not come to see men barrel racers and it's all about spectators in the sport of rodeo if you want to keep winning money. We won't ride your bulls or rope your calves if you don't run our barrels. Actually, PRCA allows women to compete in those events, if they want. And, I believe WPRA also has those events... with, of course, women competing in them, lol.
Most aren't. The rest probably don't want to subject themselves to the hostility or stereotyping. But, point is, they can compete if they can compete! I understand your point about the spectator side of things. Good point. And, I understand people who want to see it stay traditional. All good points. There are supporters on both sides of the argument. Just saying. I also understand the men barrel racers' point of view. The NFR is the Super Bowl of rodeo and they can never hold that most prestigious title. |
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| Nita - 2015-12-31 10:52 AM
cheryl makofka - 2015-12-31 10:17 AM The reason men cannot barrel race is it is a women's professional rodeo event. Prca allows the barrel racing event to take place at their rodeos. Since it is a women's association it would be like a man entering women's tennis, women's golf. It will be interesting to see in the years to come if transgendered or sex changed individuals will be able to enter
Not exactly. Tennis or golf, or any other athletic event, measure an individual's physical abillities against another. Most men will have more upper body strength and can swing a tennis racket or golf club to generate more power than most women. **Most** being the keyword. So, competition is gender specific. I think it's more akin to women and men competing in Olympic Show Jumping, which is allowed. I understand your point that the association is a women's association, tho.
I disagree with it measuring the physical abilities, as golfing is so let based on skill, and so is tennis, you need to outsmart your opponent.
As for the people who say women can't compete in prca sanctioned events. There is the one saddle bronc rider who is female and I know she has won some money. I can't think of her name atm. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Shorty 2 - 2015-12-30 9:13 PM Women can and do compete in team roping in the PRCA. I believe the Montana circuit and the First Frontier circuit have had a woman qualify to the circuit finals. And Jackie Crawford roped at Salinas and Cheyenne this year. Kaila Mussell has ridden Saddle Broncs in the PRCA. Women can compete in any event they care to in the PRCA, they just have to fill a permit to get a card, just like the guys do. Many many years ago a woman could compete in the PRCA if they had a WPRA card, but not now.
I remember when Sherry Cervi's sister use to rope with her dad, Mel Potter at the PRCA Rodeos and that was a long time ago... |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Frodo - 2015-12-31 12:44 PM
Nita - 2015-12-31 12:37 PM Frodo - 2015-12-31 12:35 PM I can assure you spectators do not come to see men barrel racers and it's all about spectators in the sport of rodeo if you want to keep winning money. We won't ride your bulls or rope your calves if you don't run our barrels. Actually, PRCA allows women to compete in those events, if they want. And, I believe WPRA also has those events... with, of course, women competing in them, lol.
Umm you need to look into the history of early rodeo turn of the twentieth century. Many many female bronc riders that were BETTER than the men.
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Location: Oregon | MS2011 - 2015-12-31 9:32 AM The more the merrier! Let them enter up, I think it's silly to make it a women's only event. After looking at so many of the issues the WPRA seems to have....perhaps adding men to the mix would help be able to make ground conditions more of a focus? There's continual WRPA drama - maybe adding some men to the mix would help. At the end of the day, it seems rather odd that women can and do join the PRCA - but the WPRA will not allow men to compete. JMO
Yes because drama is gender specific and men never have any drama going on in their associations. |
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| As far as women in roughstock......... for those who don't remember WPRA/PWRA used to have timed event and rough stock rodoes and a finals. Pretty sure they rode two handed in saddle bronc and bareback back then. Anyone remember why they don't have roughstock anymore?
Probably because....... Even Cowgirls Get The Blues...........WPRA/PWRA featured here......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VozeI06JAV8
Do you remember the movie "Rodeo Girl"? Main character competed in rough stock and timed events....... the movie trailer.........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFhlu8QP5AM
A little more Rodeo Girl...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz9Nrn0QJqA
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I think the women bring sparkle to the NFR and its cool to watch the ladys run and see what they are wearing, but the guys I dont think they could pull that off to good. I dont think the guys could pull off wearing the prettys that the grils bring into the arena. LOL  |
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| crapshooter - 2015-12-31 2:06 PM MS2011 - 2015-12-31 9:32 AM The more the merrier! Let them enter up, I think it's silly to make it a women's only event. After looking at so many of the issues the WPRA seems to have....perhaps adding men to the mix would help be able to make ground conditions more of a focus? There's continual WRPA drama - maybe adding some men to the mix would help. At the end of the day, it seems rather odd that women can and do join the PRCA - but the WPRA will not allow men to compete. JMO Yes because drama is gender specific and men never have any drama going on in their associations.
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 2:28 PM I think the women bring sparkle to the NFR and its cool to watch the ladys run and see what they are wearing, but the guys I dont think they could pull that off to good. I dont think the guys could pull off wearing the prettys that the grils bring into the arena. LOL
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