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Location: Phoenix | grinandbareit - 2016-01-08 8:32 PM
I don't agree with it and I certainly don't condone it... BUT... Horses on the road are often in the trailer for HOURS on end without a break. Doesn't seem much different than that to me. She definitely could have been more attentive to him, but as long as it isn't something she does often, then I probably wouldn't confront her. If she does it again you could maybe mention something to her during lunch. Something like "Hey, I'll walk out with you to give Trigger some water." Sometimes people are more receptive to a kind word. ;)
I was thinking the same thing. She sounds like she doesn't know much..... |
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| I don't agree with leaving the horse in the trailer, but I also don't think its nice to talk so bad about her. I have read a few post calling her names and I don't think its right. I guess I just always think we really don't know what goes on in others lives and to say mean things could really be a breaking point for someone. I know somethings aren't right but maybe she never had anyone to show her. I don't know, yes its not okay, but neither is name calling. Maybe you should see if she wants to learn more about taking proper care of her horse and offer to give her tips. I don't want to offend anyone, I'm just a sensitive person and don't ever want to make others feel bad. Maybe she is just doesn't know. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | She sounds like she is just young and ignorant. Someone mentioned in another post that, the way they were raised, you just treated horses differently. In that post, they said someone chewed their butt, and they realized they deserved it. Maybe a kinder approach, but she definitely needs to be educated about doing what's best for your animals. |
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| I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls?
Is it an ideal scenario? No.
Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No. |
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| I think the difference from what she did as a convenience, and folks that haul regularly, is most folks, no wait, most barrel racers, that haul a lot do a ton of other things to help their horse......stop every few hours, give them a walk, water, et al. And, they realize that this is hard on the horse and limit it to necessity rather than convenience.
However, I doubt this guy got anything special, like taking your lunch out to the trailer, going for a walk, watering, and loading back up.
If she's young, yes she should know better, but probably didn't think it through. She thought 'wow, I've got an idea, I'll just take Dash to work, then go ride'. She may be open to a gentle suggestion, may not, but that's what I'd try first.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No.
^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her...... |
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Location: KS | I guess I wouldn't be afraid to bring it up to her, but I would also do it nicely, maybe make that offer about leaving her horse at your place, if your willing?
I've been around a variety of people, some don't look and situations (or animals) the same as others, Id be thinking the same thing as you, no food or water in a small trailer? But if it were a long stock trailer, I would feel a little different about it, its still beneficial to unload them and walk them when their in a longer trailer too. But like someone mentioned before, you don't know what/how others see things or what's going on with them, so id suggest confronting her nicely.
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Location: That part of Texas | I would strongly advise calling the cops at this point and here's why:
Out of any given country/rural/farm-ranch land area, how many law enforcement officers on the force have working equine knowledge at all? Of those who do have some knowledge, how many grew up on ranches were it's common to load horses in the morning in a trailer to go to work all day? Granted those horses are taken out to ride pasture and check cattle but you do see them sitting in the back while guys are drinking coffee at the feed store, eating lunch at the diner or stopping for a snack in the afternoon during a break. Given this, you're chances of actually having someone called out who (1) has knowledge at all about what you're concerned with and (2) agrees with you is probably going to be slim.
If an officer who doesn't know anything shows up, she's going to be able to talk her way out of things and possibly mis-educate the office on this issue. Otherwise, you may end up with someone who agrees with her. In the end, you've only shown her that law enforcement is either going to agree or back her up. She'll strut around talking about busy-bodies who can't mind their own business that tried to call the cops on her and it backfired. It will become more of a personal issue with her to do this.
That's why I say if you are going to do something, it probably needs to be you or someone else who is knowledgable addressing the issue with her. Say that you feel this way and then possibly give her a copy of an article backing up what you are saying if you feel that you need to.
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Location: East of the Pecos | Red Raider - 2016-01-09 11:24 AM I would strongly advise calling the cops at this point and here's why:
Out of any given country/rural/farm-ranch land area, how many law enforcement officers on the force have working equine knowledge at all? Of those who do have some knowledge, how many grew up on ranches were it's common to load horses in the morning in a trailer to go to work all day? Granted those horses are taken out to ride pasture and check cattle but you do see them sitting in the back while guys are drinking coffee at the feed store, eating lunch at the diner or stopping for a snack in the afternoon during a break. Given this, you're chances of actually having someone called out who (1) has knowledge at all about what you're concerned with and (2) agrees with you is probably going to be slim.
If an officer who doesn't know anything shows up, she's going to be able to talk her way out of things and possibly mis-educate the office on this issue. Otherwise, you may end up with someone who agrees with her. In the end, you've only shown her that law enforcement is either going to agree or back her up. She'll strut around talking about busy-bodies who can't mind their own business that tried to call the cops on her and it backfired. It will become more of a personal issue with her to do this.
That's why I say if you are going to do something, it probably needs to be you or someone else who is knowledgable addressing the issue with her. Say that you feel this way and then possibly give her a copy of an article backing up what you are saying if you feel that you need to.
Your initial message of advice to call the cops sounds contrary to your paragraph of on why? |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Bug Is Alive - 2016-01-09 9:51 AM
Red Raider - 2016-01-09 11:24 AM I would strongly advise calling the cops at this point and here's why:
Out of any given country/rural/farm-ranch land area, how many law enforcement officers on the force have working equine knowledge at all? Of those who do have some knowledge, how many grew up on ranches were it's common to load horses in the morning in a trailer to go to work all day? Granted those horses are taken out to ride pasture and check cattle but you do see them sitting in the back while guys are drinking coffee at the feed store, eating lunch at the diner or stopping for a snack in the afternoon during a break. Given this, you're chances of actually having someone called out who (1) has knowledge at all about what you're concerned with and (2) agrees with you is probably going to be slim.
If an officer who doesn't know anything shows up, she's going to be able to talk her way out of things and possibly mis-educate the office on this issue. Otherwise, you may end up with someone who agrees with her. In the end, you've only shown her that law enforcement is either going to agree or back her up. She'll strut around talking about busy-bodies who can't mind their own business that tried to call the cops on her and it backfired. It will become more of a personal issue with her to do this.
That's why I say if you are going to do something, it probably needs to be you or someone else who is knowledgable addressing the issue with her. Say that you feel this way and then possibly give her a copy of an article backing up what you are saying if you feel that you need to.
Your initial message of advice to call the cops sounds contrary to your paragraph of on why?
I would assume it was meant to say "advise against". |
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Location: Southern Oregon | She knows enough to know better. but I do agree with what was said. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | NJJ - 2016-01-09 7:48 AM
Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No.
^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her......
I too have driven over night to rodeo's but I NEVER haul for that many hours with out stopping and checking my horses or unloading them and watering them ect. The INTENT wasn't to "burn" her over the internet. The intent was to get some good articles as too why it is bad so I could give them to her too read. I would of said something that day, but I didn't even find out until the next day. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cowgirl_3207 - 2016-01-10 12:06 PM NJJ - 2016-01-09 7:48 AM Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No. ^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her...... I too have driven over night to rodeo's but I NEVER haul for that many hours with out stopping and checking my horses or unloading them and watering them ect. The INTENT wasn't to "burn" her over the internet. The intent was to get some good articles as too why it is bad so I could give them to her too read. I would of said something that day, but I didn't even find out until the next day.
I guess I misunderstood because you didn't say that you found out the NEXT day....
"Then while in our morning metting a close friend of ours said that the girl had bought her horse to work so that she could leave right after work to go riding. "
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| NJJ - 2016-01-10 12:36 PM
cowgirl_3207 - 2016-01-10 12:06 PM NJJ - 2016-01-09 7:48 AM Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No. ^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her...... I too have driven over night to rodeo's but I NEVER haul for that many hours with out stopping and checking my horses or unloading them and watering them ect. The INTENT wasn't to "burn" her over the internet. The intent was to get some good articles as too why it is bad so I could give them to her too read. I would of said something that day, but I didn't even find out until the next day.
"Then while in our morning metting a close friend of ours said that the girl had bought her horse to work so that she could leave right after work to go riding. "
So all this is based off what someone told you?
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | I feel the same way about people who put horses in box stalls. But I don't go calling the cops on these people. To me box stalls are mentally cruel to a horse. If the weather wasn't bad or hot or cold I would not worry about this. We haul for 9 hours when we go on vacation with ours and they only get one rest period for a half hour and they will not even drink water till we get there. At least try the nice way to get your point across first. |
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | Here's an opportunity to educate someone. I am a much better horseperson today, than I was when I was twenty. Looking back, I made mistakes I cringe about now. Why don't you try to befriend her, get chatty, and somehow suggest in a nice way that her horse might need a break if it happens again? I would never keep my horse in a trailer all day long. I wouldn't even tie him up OUTSIDE the trailer all day long. But I HAVE hauled all day long. So I think it's not an ideal situation, but he's not being abused. I think you have a teaching moment here with this young woman. And P.S. I don't like hearing that she continued to ride a horse who was limping. Sounds like this girl needs a mentor. Look at this as an opportunity and figure out a way you can help. Good luck! |
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Location: Oregon | BS Hauler - 2016-01-10 3:43 PM I feel the same way about people who put horses in box stalls. But I don't go calling the cops on these people. To me box stalls are mentally cruel to a horse. If the weather wasn't bad or hot or cold I would not worry about this. We haul for 9 hours when we go on vacation with ours and they only get one rest period for a half hour and they will not even drink water till we get there. At least try the nice way to get your point across first. Seriously? Putting a horse in a box stall is the same as leaving it in a parking lot in a 2 horse trailer all day?
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Location: Florida.. | my guess is if she does this now she will do it in summer.. THAT IS a ISSUE in my opinion.. also a moving trailer is not the same as sitting in a parking lot.. in summer it could be life or death for that horse..start educating now. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2016-01-10 7:26 PM my guess is if she does this now she will do it in summer.. THAT IS a ISSUE in my opinion.. also a moving trailer is not the same as sitting in a parking lot.. in summer it could be life or death for that horse..start educating now.
This right here ^^^^^^ if this women is old enough to drive and haul a horse, I can bet that she knows better then to leave a horse alone for all those hours it sat in a trailer by its self.. |
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