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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-01-18 9:08 PM
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skye - 2016-01-18 8:45 PM I'm really surprised RFD-TV are allowing Lindsey to run a match race to possibly qualify again?  I hope the rules can get firmed-up on The American.

The rules should have been firmed up years ago.
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river runner
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2016-01-19 6:05 AM
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I think they like to keep people guessing and talking!
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-01-19 8:27 AM
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I think they are messing up. It seems like they change things on a whim. It's getting to complicated to follow. I liked the set up of the first one they had.
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-01-19 8:58 AM
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So would whoever win be the exemption like Charmayne James has been? If so, I see nothing wrong with that since its been done in the past. The match race just adds to the excitement.

I know whe Lindsey was wanting to get in last year, she planned on running Martha... but not sure if thats still the case.
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2016-01-19 10:30 AM
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I like that they've added the match race. And I think it was smart from a business perspective. They are engaging their fans. Getting them talking about it, before the big show gets here, creating their own buzz.

Complaining about changing the rules?? The American HAS changed the rules. They have completely changed the rules of rodeo and they intended to!

They want to give spectators something NEW and thrilling to watch. That's the whole point.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-01-19 10:48 AM
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I don't like that they change the rules midstream. If you are going to change the rules, do so at the start of the new year. I love the premise of the American. But it seems they are kind of getting away from the true amateur. Maybe I am not following closely enough though. I will definitely be watching it on TV though.
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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2016-01-19 10:52 AM
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I don't think the "rule changes" are hurting them one bit. Look at the entries for the qualifiers. Contestants still want in.

I'll support anything that is for the bettering of the sport. I went to the American the first two years, and am bummed to be missing it this year.

Edited by WrapN3MN 2016-01-19 10:54 AM
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2016-01-19 11:45 AM
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BamaCanChaser - 2016-01-20 7:30 AM I like that they've added the match race. And I think it was smart from a business perspective. They are engaging their fans. Getting them talking about it, before the big show gets here, creating their own buzz. Complaining about changing the rules?? The American HAS changed the rules. They have completely changed the rules of rodeo and they intended to! They want to give spectators something NEW and thrilling to watch. That's the whole point.

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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2016-01-19 11:51 AM
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It is a new and exciting concept for rodeo events "The American".  There are going to be things that come up with change and it has been exciting.

I don't see how they can match race Lindsey Sears and that she could qualify again when she has qualified twice this year? 
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2016-01-19 12:27 PM
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skye - 2016-01-19 11:51 AM It is a new and exciting concept for rodeo events "The American".  There are going to be things that come up with change and it has been exciting.



I don't see how they can match race Lindsey Sears and that she could qualify again when she has qualified twice this year? 

If she wins the match race, then she doesn't have to survive the semi-finals....which are insanely tough.

I can't wait to watch the matches!!!  It will be fun!

 
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snazzy
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-01-20 6:29 AM
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 A past world champion friend of mine who will remain unnamed was asked to participate in this with another world champion and with Lindsay and they refused.....there were other underlying reasons I wont get into involving ERA but one of them was that she had already qualified to semis making her eligible for the Semis and possibly a million and if she came in as an exemption she would only be eligible for 100k

I dont like that they change the rules as they go.....if you say 10 qualifers then it should be 10 not just add them so you make more money because they do not pay the qualifiers nearly what they should based on the $500 plus entry fee they hold out a lot .....I didnt look but I heard they reduced the entry fee for the SA race to $300 something.    Now how is that fair to those that had to pay $500 plus at the previous qualifiers?  JMO
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2016-01-20 6:54 AM
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snazzy - 2016-01-20 6:29 AM  A past world champion friend of mine who will remain unnamed was asked to participate in this with another world champion and with Lindsay and they refused.....there were other underlying reasons I wont get into involving ERA but one of them was that she had already qualified to semis making her eligible for the Semis and possibly a million and if she came in as an exemption she would only be eligible for 100k



I dont like that they change the rules as they go.....if you say 10 qualifers then it should be 10 not just add them so you make more money because they do not pay the qualifiers nearly what they should based on the $500 plus entry fee they hold out a lot .....I didnt look but I heard they reduced the entry fee for the SA race to $300 something.    Now how is that fair to those that had to pay $500 plus at the previous qualifiers?  JMO

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they are lowering entries only for those that have tried in a previous qualifier this past year so they've already coughed up at least $500 and didn't qualify so now they get to try for a reduced rate.  Keep in mind....I "think" this is what I read so don't 
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-01-20 7:21 AM
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CYA Ranch - 2016-01-20 6:54 AM
snazzy - 2016-01-20 6:29 AM Β A past world champion friend of mine who will remain unnamed was asked to participate in this with another world champion and with Lindsay and they refused.....there were other underlying reasons I wont get into involving ERA but one of them was that she had already qualified to semis making her eligible for the Semis and possibly a million and if she came in as an exemption she would only be eligible for 100k

I dont like that they change the rules as they go.....if you say 10 qualifers then it should be 10 not just add them so you make more money because they do not pay the qualifiers nearly what they should based on the $500 plus entry fee they hold out a lot .....I didnt look but I heard they reduced the entry fee for the SA race to $300 something. Β  Β Now how is that fair to those that had to pay $500 plus at the previous qualifiers? Β JMO
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they are lowering entries only for those that have tried in a previous qualifier this past year so they've already coughed up at least $500 and didn't qualify so now they get to try for a reduced rate.Β  Keep in mind....I "think" this is what I read so don'tΒ 
I just pulled up the entry form $565 if first qualifier this season or if have already qualified a horse this season. $435 if this is your second time to enter this season and you have not qualified. Β  I understand this is the race their rules and trying to encourage repeat entries Β but how do you enter the same race and not have to pay the same entry fee?? Β  Β  I can't wrap my head around somebody getting to qualify with a lower entry fee what difference does it make if it was their first second or third race ? Β  Β It also seems like you're telling the ones who have qualified your good so you get to pay more than those who not been able to get the job done. Β What about those who have already entered twice at previous qualifiers and paided full entry fee both times??

Edited by rodeomom3 2016-01-20 8:02 AM
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2016-01-20 8:49 AM
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Here is the breakdown off the entry form at San Antonio - it's a bit different, but this is such a relatively new event.  It's going to evolve for a while, I don't think it's a bad thing that they added an additional qualifier.  It's been up for quite a while now, those that haven't managed to get in have got another shot.  I firmly believe that the American is the best thing that's happened to rodeo in a long long time, it's going to have some growing pains.  Yes - they do hold a lot of the entry fee out from the qualifiers, it's very clear on the form exactly where all the money is going.  The Semi-Qualifiers pay out like a slot machine and the payoff at the American is pretty amazing. 
 
Contestants who have never entered a Qualifier this Season-OR-who have already Earned One (1) Semi-Finals Qualification Pay:
Entry Fees: $560.00 ea.
(includes $500 American Fees + $60 Saturday Open Fees)

Contestants who have previously competed in a Qualifier this Season but NOT Earned a Semi-Finals Qualification Pay:
Entry Fees: $435.00 ea.
(includes $375 American Fees + $60 Saturday Open Fees)

 
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2016-01-20 9:57 AM
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MS2011 - 2016-01-20 8:49 AM Here is the breakdown off the entry form at San Antonio - it's a bit different, but this is such a relatively new event.  It's going to evolve for a while, I don't think it's a bad thing that they added an additional qualifier.  It's been up for quite a while now, those that haven't managed to get in have got another shot.  I firmly believe that the American is the best thing that's happened to rodeo in a long long time, it's going to have some growing pains.  Yes - they do hold a lot of the entry fee out from the qualifiers, it's very clear on the form exactly where all the money is going.  The Semi-Qualifiers pay out like a slot machine and the payoff at the American is pretty amazing. 

 
Contestants who have never entered a Qualifier this Season-OR-who have already Earned One (1) Semi-Finals Qualification Pay:


Entry Fees: $560.00 ea.


(includes $500 American Fees + $60 Saturday Open Fees)




Contestants who have previously competed in a Qualifier this Season but NOT Earned a Semi-Finals Qualification Pay:


Entry Fees: $435.00 ea.


(includes $375 American Fees + $60 Saturday Open Fees)



 

I see it as a pretty interesting way and an "incentive" to get competitors to try AGAIN if they didn't qualify.  

IMO....EVERY organization changes their rules from year to year so I don't see it as a big deal as long as you know the rules......


 
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2016-01-21 11:15 PM
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 I'm excited about all of the matches........ Probably the others more so than the barrel racing actually.
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outrundaizy
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2016-01-22 12:38 AM
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Out of ALL the barrel racers they could pick, I'm just surprised they picked someone who's already qualified 2 horses, I love lindsay, but that doesn't make any snese to me. 
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2016-01-22 8:06 AM
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outrundaizy - 2016-01-22 12:38 AM Out of ALL the barrel racers they could pick, I'm just surprised they picked someone who's already qualified 2 horses, I love lindsay, but that doesn't make any snese to me. 

"Perhaps", they had this set up before she qualified????? I know that I heard about the calf roping match a long time ago. 
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P68
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-01-25 8:51 AM
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Have you guys seen the interviews? I saw that Lindsay's portion was posted on rfdtv's site (I don't get the station, sadly) but I can't find Kelly's anywhere. Does anyone have it and is willing to share?
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mreklaw
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2016-01-25 12:53 PM
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P68 - 2016-01-25 8:51 AM

Have you guys seen the interviews? I saw that Lindsay's portion was posted on rfdtv's site (I don't get the station, sadly) but I can't find Kelly's anywhere. Does anyone have it and is willing to share?

I saw Kelly's and she basically said she is not sure what horse she is running.
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