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| I found it interesting that Willie Robertson is now endorsing Trump as well. Not that he's political by any means. Palin surprised me just for the fact that I thought she didn't care anymore.
I honestly don't know what to think anymore of any of them, other than I KNOW I don't want Hillary in office. I would probably vote for Trump if he gets the nod.
I also agree with whoever said that the Electoral college is going to do what they want to do anyways. I truly believe that's how we got Odumbo back. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2016-01-22 8:53 AM Trump is masterful at playing the media like a pimp plays a whore. He says things that would have led to the demise of any politician, yet because he is not a career politician, he gets a pass. He looks for opportunities to make outrageous comments and the media comes running, eager to witness his self destruction. Once that happens, he smiles, shrugs his shoulders, and explains or revises his remark. For example he made the remark that he would ban Muslim immigration into this country. Half the people were ecstatic, and the other half gave a collective gasp. The media came running, eager to get their politically correct jabs in on him. Then, Trump explains and modifies his statement to basically mean a temporary ban on all immigration from all countries known to be sources of terrorism....which happen to be Muslim...."at least until we get things figured out." In a subtle way, he has this "aw shucks" schtick about him that enables him to make politically incorrect remarks and get away with them for three reasons: 1. He's not a career politician, 2. He's anti-establishment, and, 3. He uses his hatred of political correctness as a license to be politically INcorrect, almost deliberately. He has almost succeeded in making politically incorrect remarks fashionable, much to the chagrin of the establishment and the media. People are pis$ed off like never before. Trump seizes on the obvious and harnesses the collective energy of the angry mob. He is purposely vague because he uses Gestalt psychology to drive his campaign. He knows that most people only care about the big picture and they want something done about it. They see our southern border and they want it fixed.....Trump promises a big wall. They see China, Japan, and Mexico making fools out of us......Trump promises to fix it. They see ObamaCare as a huge, unpopular mess.....The Donald will get rid of it. They are afraid of ISIS.....the Donald will "bomb the hell out of them" and take oil as payment for our services. They see the Iran-nuclear treaty as a bad deal......Trump will rip it up. Everyone else expected to give specifics.......most people seem to not care about specifics when it comes to Trump. That's because people seem to feel he will get it done, and they don't care how.
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| Here is how I see it right now. Both the Dem's and the Rep's are headed for a brokered convention. On the Rep. side it is all about delegates. You must get 1236 delegates to win the nomination. The first four primary's mean vary little they are only 133 delegates. All the primary's after the 1st four until march 14th are proportional which is the vast majority. Trump while he leads in the polls he has a long way to go to get the 1236. When you add in what Cruz and Rubio are going to get its to close to call. Hence why I think he is headed into the convention about 400 delegates short and it will be lets make a deal time at the convention. On the Dem's side it will be 1968 all over again. I have never been afraid of Hillary she ran a terrible campaign in 2008 got beat by a no name Senator and is getting beat again by a no name Senator LOL. But the main reason is she will fail is the FBI will bring charges against her. Yep I know everybody says no way she is to slippery she will walk. But everybody forgets the elephant in the room. The Obama's and Jarad hate the Clinton's guts. Obama will let her fry. This will all take place about 60 days before the convention. Now the DNC does not want Sanders so it will be draft someone else at the convention. My guess is Bidon. Why it's Obama's pick. And that scares the H&&& out of me because Bidon will get the Dem's off their butts and come out and vote. Ok that's my thoughts start shooting holes in it LOL!!!!
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | The republican party is a sinking ship and I'm glad I jumped off and swam to the island of Libertarianism when I did. Look at those candidates. Only one of them has a consistent record of truly supporting liberty and small government and he's polling in the single digits. People are too blind to see that Trump, Jeb, Rubio, even Cruz are not much different than the democratic candidates that I'm sure everyone here hates. Trump is not a Republican. He never has been. Up until he decided to run, his views were all very liberal. Over half of the money he's donated to political campaigns in the past has been to democrats. He's used the government to get what he wants *coughcougheminentdomaincough* and a Trump presidency will not be good for America. Behind the ever so catchy "Make America Great Again" and promises to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, is a man that while he may be a fine person, will not really be any different than what we've been getting. More empty promises, more spending, more government.
Then there's Cruz. The Conservative Champion...or is he? It's amazing that man doesn't wear sandals every day cause he sure does love to flip flop. His conservative voting record is a result of him switching his views to whatever will benefit him politically. I won't bother to list all the examples here but have a look and it's not hard to find several examples. Not to mention his latest blunder. When it came time to vote to audit the Fed guess who didn't bother to show up? That's right, Cruz. The man who said that he would vote to....audit the Fed!
Speaking of no-shows why don't we talk about Rubio The Statist for a spell? Actually there's not much to say. He hasn't bothered showing up to work in quite some time. I don't care how busy you are campaigning, you still have a job to do that is extremely important and he and Cruz have failed us. Also the man is soft as a dairy queen ice cream cone on immigration. He used his good debate skills to explain away his "gang of 8" amnesty fiasco as a compromise to make more progress but why on God's green earth would we believe him? He may say the right things but does not have the record to back it up. While he's soft on immigration, he has a hard-on for war. His foreign policy is one that is only going to lead to more chaos in the middle east. The USA has been way too involved over there for way too long. Yes I know ISIS exists but they were born from constant meddling and prodding in an already unstable region. We can't keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results. We are just digging our hole deeper and it's filled with thousands of US Soldiers that paid the ultimate price (God bless them and their families    ).
Is it even worth mentioning Jeb, Carson, and Christie? Jeb is the very definition of "doofus". This pudgy, bland man may have been a fine governor but he IS the establishment that everyone claims to hate. Do we REALLY need ANOTHER Bush? No. No we don't. And Carson. I like Carson. There is no doubt that he is a good, honorable man. He supports a flat tax and really has nothing to gain from being president. I truly believe he is running because he wants to help. BUT what would help the most might be for him to exit the race. He is smart but does not have the experience necessary to run the country. Especially on the foreign policy front. A Carson presidency would be a sincere one, but inexperience could lead to a dangerous situation for the US and we are already nearing the edge of collapse nationally and internationally. America needs someone with more experience to take the wheel and get us back on the right path. And then Christie. His interests include long, romantic walks on the beach with Obama and eating. He'd be better suited to the Hunger Games than running for president. I'll just leave that there.
Then we have the candidate that I have followed for YEARS and that is Rand. I was excited about the rest of the field for a hot minute but when the dust settled, once again Rand is the only one with a leg to stand on. When I ask people what they don't like about him their answer is always "he can't win" or "he just doesn't look presidential"...well no he can't win. Not with that attitude. You have to dig a little deeper. I'm not sure what a president is supposed to "look" like but I will agree that he hasn't come off as well as he could in the debates. Let's look past that though because last time I checked silver-tongued politicians with the perfect one liners and catchy phrases are T-R-O-U-B-L-E. Rand has consistently supported liberty and small governement...as far back as I know. http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Rand_Paul.htm Look at his record. You'll find a natural evolution of opinions, as we all have, but I do not see any stark contridictions like we've seen from basically every other candidate. He is the only candidate that actually has the best interest of the American people in mind AND the experience necessary to run the country. Stand with Rand 2k16  .
So in relation to the original post, I am disappointed with SP. To me she was like a shooting star, on fire, really exciting for a bit and has been slowly fading. Now, with her endorsement of TRUMP of all people, I've pretty much written her off. She could be sensing a split in the party but for God's sake is that really a bad thing? The Republican party has turned into everything it claims to be against and, for lack of better wording, sucks major a$$. I'm in FULL support of a Third Party. That party happens to be the largest third party and the only one that is growing. The party that ignores left and right and is founded on minimum government, maximum freedom. The Libertarian Party https://www.lp.org/platform. It took me a long long long time and some prodding to finally commit to becoming a Libertarian but I'm happy I did. Republicans have disappointed me over and over for as long as I can remember. I'm young and absolutely terrified for my future. Republicans and Democrats are equally to blame. Both are power hungry and bloated and I want no part of it. I'm slightly priveledged in the fact that my SO is a fervent libertarian and very involved in politics here in my community/state so he has opened my eyes and inspired me to be more involved and do what little I can to help take back the future of our country.
So I ask you to take a long hard look at what you really believe and if the candidate you're supporting TRULY represents that? Do not follow with blind loyalty to anyone with an R behind their name, in fear that the party will collapse if you don't march to the beat of the establishment drum. Becoming a disengaged voter that blindly follows any party is not doing anyone any favors. Do not fall into the trap that politics are always the "same old, same old" and will never change. YOU have a choice to accept that or DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. There are alternatives out there! More and more people, on both sides of the aisle are looking for a change and there are good candidates offering just that. You need to take a leap of faith and stop worrying about the precious GOP. I know everyone's gut reaction is to believe that is handing a win to the Dem's but really, there are just as many uninformed voters that "think" they're democrats but if they were presented with actual facts, would side more with the Libertarians. Take for example the millenials. As one, I look around at my peers and I do not see the stupid, lazy, rude punks that everyone older seems to see. I see young, bright minds that have not been given a chance. Their parents have failed them. Their education system has failed them. They are completely lost and have been fed liberal bullsh!t by their schools, by pop culture, and by the media their whole lives. They have no idea what they're voting for. But with some work that can be fixed. Rand is already popular with millenials. And that is just the tiniest little tippy tip of the iceberg.
I'm going to stop going on and on now, but I'll leave with this. Trump is not going to save the GOP or our country. Neither is Cruz. Or Christie or Rubio or Bush. They all suck in their own way. The only way for conservatives to win will be to stop ignoring the only true liberty-loving, small governement consertative in the race. Do not follow blindly. Do your research. Don't be afraid of change. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Rand Paul doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of even coming close to winning the nomination. Neither does, Jeb, Christie, Carson, Fiorina, Kasich, or Huckabee. It doesn't matter what the reasons are....it's over for them. Only Cruz and Rubio have a fighting chance. The GOP establishment is going to pull out all the stops to defeat Trump. So far, it hasn't had much effect.
Trump has mastered the art of manipulating the media. He knows how to stir sh!t and get free media coverage. Meanwhile he has hundreds of millions of his own money to use when the need arises. | |
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Location: Oregon | That's pretty much a dream world where Rand is going anywhere in this election. | |
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| So, are democrats not at all concerned about Hillary getting indited and doing prison time? I am so confused at how she is still even a thought in anyone's mind as far as candidacy. I will vote for any Republican that gets the nod....anyone over Hillary. As far as the Palin thing goes, Donald is going for the women's vote. The media has spun him to be a incredibly sexist man...and he has said some incredibly sexist things, I'll admit.......but SURELY he could have found someone better than PALIN to endorse him?!? | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | It's time for this country to finally get on the str8 and narrow.
Bernie Sanders is our man.
That's who will be getting my vote. | |
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Location: SE KS | 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 11:53 AM It's time for this country to finally get on the str8 and narrow.
Bernie Sanders is our man.
That's who will be getting my vote. So you want to vote for Bernie - and you want to give him 90% of what you make, really................... so you make $1000 and
you want to give him back $900 - that doesn't make sense.
If Hillary gets indicted before the dem convention - it could be a whole new ball game. If she gets indicted after the dem convention Bernie will I suppose have the nomination .
But go a head and vote for him.
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| Please study a lesson on history and socialism..........Bernie is self proclaimed socialist ............hope he gets no votes, but for those wanting something for nothing ~ he's the man | |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 11:53 AM It's time for this country to finally get on the str8 and narrow.
Bernie Sanders is our man.
That's who will be getting my vote.
I hope you're joking. | |
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I'm convinced that the Clintons are no different than a La Cosa Nostra crime family. In fact, they might be the most powerful organized crime family in history. Take a look at what they've gotten away with....body counts, vast numbers of women accusers, immense shady financial dealings, bribery, associations with scum and villains, all sorts of criminal acts, grotesque hypocrisy, pedophilia, lying, and incompetence. No matter how much Hillary has broken laws and lied, she will not be indicted. In the end, she will not be convicted of anything. | |
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Location: Kansas | Dinero10 - 2016-01-22 11:59 AM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 11:53 AM It's time for this country to finally get on the str8 and narrow.
Bernie Sanders is our man.
That's who will be getting my vote. So you want to vote for Bernie - and you want to give him 90% of what you make, really................... so you make $1000 and
you want to give him back $900 - that doesn't make sense.
If Hillary gets indicted before the dem convention - it could be a whole new ball game. If she gets indicted after the dem convention Bernie will I suppose have the nomination .
But go a head and vote for him.
Not to mention the guy is 74 years, waaaaay past retirement age.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Frodo - 2016-01-22 12:29 PM
Dinero10 - 2016-01-22 11:59 AM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 11:53 AM It's time for this country to finally get on the str8 and narrow.
Bernie Sanders is our man.
That's who will be getting my vote. So you want to vote for Bernie - and you want to give him 90% of what you make, really................... so you make $1000 and
you want to give him back $900 - that doesn't make sense.
If Hillary gets indicted before the dem convention - it could be a whole new ball game. If she gets indicted after the dem convention Bernie will I suppose have the nomination .
But go a head and vote for him.
So what? Hillary is 69. Not much difference. | |
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| Bear - 2016-01-22 12:21 PM
I'm convinced that the Clintons are no different than a La Cosa Nostra crime family. In fact, they might be the most powerful organized crime family in history. Take a look at what they've gotten away with....body counts, vast numbers of women accusers, immense shady financial dealings, bribery, associations with scum and villains, all sorts of criminal acts, grotesque hypocrisy, pedophilia, lying, and incompetence. No matter how much Hillary has broken laws and lied, she will not be indicted. In the end, she will not be convicted of anything.
I think you are 100% correct. NOTHING will happen to her - she is untouchable. (And I HOPE we are wrong, but I don't think we are). | |
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Location: SE KS | Griz - 2016-01-22 1:12 PM Bear - 2016-01-22 12:21 PM I'm convinced that the Clintons are no different than a La Cosa Nostra crime family. In fact, they might be the most powerful organized crime family in history. Take a look at what they've gotten away with....body counts, vast numbers of women accusers, immense shady financial dealings, bribery, associations with scum and villains, all sorts of criminal acts, grotesque hypocrisy, pedophilia, lying, and incompetence. No matter how much Hillary has broken laws and lied, she will not be indicted. In the end, she will not be convicted of anything. I think you are 100% correct. NOTHING will happen to her - she is untouchable. (And I HOPE we are wrong, but I don't think we are ).
I worry that they she won't get convicted either - but I hope she does.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | cavyrunsbarrels - 2016-01-22 1:19 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 11:53 AM It's time for this country to finally get on the str8 and narrow.
Bernie Sanders is our man.
That's who will be getting my vote. I hope you're joking.
someone, sometime has to stand up for the common man.
Bernie is that someone.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | - Body counts.....look up the sheer numbers of former Clinton associates and accusers who are dead. Read about Ron Brown, for example.
- pardoning of Mark Rich
- Bill's accusers....again sheer numbers....rape, groping, unwanted advances, lies, recorded phone conversations.
-the Paula Jones out of court settlement for $800,000.
- Bills trips to his convicted pedophile friend's island for orgies with young women, possibly under aged....Google Jeff Epstein.
- the Clinton's association with former Congressman Ed Mezvinski, who was convicted on fraud charges, involved with the famous Nigerian internet scams everyone has heard of......the felon who also happens to be Chelsea's father-in-law. Go figure.
- the proven Benghazi lies.
- the Hillary cattle futures windfall
- Travelgate scandal
- Vince Foster's death.
- Hillary's email investigation.
These merely scratch the surface. How do they escape this?
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| 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:37 PM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2016-01-22 1:19 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 11:53 AM It's time for this country to finally get on the str8 and narrow.
Bernie Sanders is our man.
That's who will be getting my vote. I hope you're joking.
Bernie is that someone.
By making someone who has achieved a little financial success the villain?? By advocating taking private companies from individuals with no compensation and redistributing them to the public?? By wanting to give more taxes to our inept government and have them make all decisions for us??? No thanks, not having any of it. He has not proposed any plans to create jobs, to help people help themselves. | |
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