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| GiveYourAll - 2016-02-08 12:12 PM
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GiveYourAll - 2016-02-08 1:02 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-02-08 11:56 AM Take her off grain, alfalfa and a concentrated product like Progressive or Renew Gold-with both you only feed 1cup am and pm. They don't need grain to get their nutrition and calories. Thanks I'll look into it. Just to clarify, take her off grain and alfalfa or just the grain and feed alfalfa and a concentrated feed? Thanks : )
That's also what I heard which is why I've been feeding it
Alfalfa is perfect for Ulcer horses. THe high calcium content buffers the stomach. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-02-08 3:01 PM GiveYourAll - 2016-02-08 12:12 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2016-02-08 12:06 PM GiveYourAll - 2016-02-08 1:02 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-02-08 11:56 AM Take her off grain, alfalfa and a concentrated product like Progressive or Renew Gold-with both you only feed 1cup am and pm. They don't need grain to get their nutrition and calories. Thanks I'll look into it. Just to clarify, take her off grain and alfalfa or just the grain and feed alfalfa and a concentrated feed? Thanks : ) That's also what I heard which is why I've been feeding it Alfalfa is perfect for Ulcer horses. THe high calcium content buffers the stomach.
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| Dawn Marie - 2016-02-08 12:27 PM
How do you treat for depression? My mare also is prone to ulcers. I treated her in December and again in January. I don't think January was necessary as she was rated a 1 at the time of her scope but the vet said depending on how sensitive she is the 1 can still bother her. She got a little better with her feed after the 2nd treatment but has since resorted back to slow eating, sometimes eating everything and sometimes not. We're going back to the vet tomorrow for teeth but I don't think its that. I think its depression. So I was wondering how you deal with it?
That's a really good question and would love to hear a response to that. Is your mare stalled also or on turnout?
I've been thinking about the depression thing all day, so since mine is stalled I was thinking of taking her out to hand graze for 15-30 minutes every day... See If that starts helping. But depression would seem almost impossible to treat in a horse lol! |
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| GiveYourAll - 2016-02-08 5:06 PM Dawn Marie - 2016-02-08 12:27 PM How do you treat for depression? My mare also is prone to ulcers. I treated her in December and again in January. I don't think January was necessary as she was rated a 1 at the time of her scope but the vet said depending on how sensitive she is the 1 can still bother her. She got a little better with her feed after the 2nd treatment but has since resorted back to slow eating, sometimes eating everything and sometimes not. We're going back to the vet tomorrow for teeth but I don't think its that. I think its depression. So I was wondering how you deal with it? That's a really good question and would love to hear a response to that. Is your mare stalled also or on turnout? I've been thinking about the depression thing all day, so since mine is stalled I was thinking of taking her out to hand graze for 15-30 minutes every day... See If that starts helping. But depression would seem almost impossible to treat in a horse lol!
Change their environment. When mine was stalled due to injury I hand grazed him 3 or 4 times a day with the other horses. |
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Location: Florida.. | rodeomom3 - 2016-02-08 6:19 PM GiveYourAll - 2016-02-08 5:06 PM Dawn Marie - 2016-02-08 12:27 PM How do you treat for depression? My mare also is prone to ulcers. I treated her in December and again in January. I don't think January was necessary as she was rated a 1 at the time of her scope but the vet said depending on how sensitive she is the 1 can still bother her. She got a little better with her feed after the 2nd treatment but has since resorted back to slow eating, sometimes eating everything and sometimes not. We're going back to the vet tomorrow for teeth but I don't think its that. I think its depression. So I was wondering how you deal with it? That's a really good question and would love to hear a response to that. Is your mare stalled also or on turnout? I've been thinking about the depression thing all day, so since mine is stalled I was thinking of taking her out to hand graze for 15-30 minutes every day... See If that starts helping. But depression would seem almost impossible to treat in a horse lol!
ditto also get something for them to play with.. jolly ball, milk jugs hanging.. they are naturally grazers so stalled up all day youd get depressed to.. |
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| Yes well if it was something I could help they wouldn't be in stalls at all. She gets out and ridden 3-4 times a week depending on my schedule. She has 3 different toys in her stall. But I will start hand grazing. |
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| Get some papaya juice and give it to her. 60ccs twice a day. Mine was off her feed. Gave her the Papaya juice and she ate everything. Give it about 15 to 30 minutes before feeding. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I have had two that beet pulp (even the non molasses kind) would cause them to go off their feed. One horse scoped clear but we suspected colon ulcers and he was classic ulcer case. The other tested positive for colon ulcers and tested positive on acupuncture points for gastric. There's something about beet pulp that some horses don't tolerate well. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Oh, and MSM and some joint supplements do the same thing.
Papaya does help. Gut Proof herbs works even better. |
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| Fairweather - 2016-02-08 5:30 PM
Oh, and MSM and some joint supplements do the same thing.
Papaya does help. Gut Proof herbs works even better.
I have owned her for a total of 4 going on 5 years with a year that I sold her and ended up buying her back (2 years ago). She's been getting beet pulp all the time she's been with me and doesn't seem to mind it as long as there is something mixed in.
But now that you mention joint supplements I did start her in January on smartpaks, a joint supplement and a probiotic/prebiotic. I'm wondering if those are just getting in her system and causing probl ms?? |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | GiveYourAll - 2016-02-08 8:12 PM Fairweather - 2016-02-08 5:30 PM Oh, and MSM and some joint supplements do the same thing.
Papaya does help. Gut Proof herbs works even better. I have owned her for a total of 4 going on 5 years with a year that I sold her and ended up buying her back (2 years ago ). She's been getting beet pulp all the time she's been with me and doesn't seem to mind it as long as there is something mixed in. But now that you mention joint supplements I did start her in January on smartpaks, a joint supplement and a probiotic/prebiotic. I'm wondering if those are just getting in her system and causing probl ms??
It could be. The one horse it took me a year to get figured out and he was finally eating well. I made the mistake of putting him on MSM and he started getting slow on his feed within a couple of days. I had a hard time getting him back on his feed even when I pulled him off the MSM. That's when I found out about the herbs.
When I've taken a joint supplement that has MSM in it, even with food, I have gotten THE absolute worst case of heart burn. I took it in the morning and had heartburn every time I ate for the next couple of days - that's with Nexium and anything else I could get my hands on. I've tried taking it a couple times and had the same results. |
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| Maybe I'll look into the herbs. Thanks! I had been feeding pure msm in the past without (what seemed like) any issues and I just thought she might need more so I got something with glucosamine msm chondroitin HA etc in it. Horses are one of a kind aren't they....  |
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| GiveYourAll - 2016-02-09 6:48 AM
Maybe I'll look into the herbs. Thanks! I had been feeding pure msm in the past without (what seemed like ) any issues and I just thought she might need more so I got something with glucosamine msm chondroitin HA etc in it. Horses are one of a kind aren't they....
Be careful of Oral HA products, they can also burn the GI tract. Products like Lubrisyn are good because they are absorbed before they even get to the stomach. Oxygen makes a product called Fluidity that is the ONLY BUFFERED HA oral product on the market to protect the GI track. I have not used either but am really considering the Fluidity |
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Location: Florida.. | I am not sure if you responded but has she been looked at by a dentist |
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| I use Fluidity and love it. Also use the oxy max. But I would start her on the Gut Integrity and Oxy Ulcer to get her digestive issues taken care of. My mare had stopped eating. i have the oxy ulcer on its way,but I gave her 60 ccs of Papaya juice and she started to eating like crazy. So you might try the Papaya. |
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| readytorodeo - 2016-02-09 9:02 AM
I use Fluidity and love it. Also use the oxy max. But I would start her on the Gut Integrity and Oxy Ulcer to get her digestive issues taken care of. My mare had stopped eating. i have the oxy ulcer on its way,but I gave her 60 ccs of Papaya juice and she started to eating like crazy. So you might try the Papaya.
Smoothrun Gastro and Forerunner paste/Gut also has papaya in it and I have used them in the past with great results. |
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| I have a horse that does the EXACT same thing. Had him scoped and found a few ulcers but none that looked bad enough to make him completely stop eating. Tried everything and he would eat for a couple days and then just turn his nose up. Finally dove in and did the HHA (horse hair analysis) by Dr. deapalo and got interesting results. He had me start him on his own personalized supplement and a gut stomach that he made called excel. He explained that the excel coats all the way from the esophagus to the hind gut and is very natural. He is also recommend alfalfa hay and renew gold grain. So far so good! Its nice to hear someone else has the same problem!! Mine got so bad that I had to quit riding him cause he was getting so skinny and put thousands and thousands into vet bills with no results at all!! So I highly recommend the HHA! wish I did it first thing instead of going to the vet!! Good Luck and know youre not alone!!!! |
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| SpeedyDandme - 2016-02-09 10:03 AM
I have a horse that does the EXACT same thing. Had him scoped and found a few ulcers but none that looked bad enough to make him completely stop eating. Tried everything and he would eat for a couple days and then just turn his nose up. Finally dove in and did the HHA (horse hair analysis) by Dr. deapalo and got interesting results. He had me start him on his own personalized supplement and a gut stomach that he made called excel. He explained that the excel coats all the way from the esophagus to the hind gut and is very natural. He is also recommend alfalfa hay and renew gold grain. So far so good! Its nice to hear someone else has the same problem!! Mine got so bad that I had to quit riding him cause he was getting so skinny and put thousands and thousands into vet bills with no results at all!! So I highly recommend the HHA! wish I did it first thing instead of going to the vet!! Good Luck and know youre not alone!!!!
Interesting. Maybe I'll look into that. I am definitely going to look into switching her to the renew gold. I'm also looking at other options in terms of ulcer supps. Maybe I'll do the hha to figure this horse out. Glad I'm not alone, thank you for the insight! |
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| Just had this happen with my 2yo, it was worms. Get a fecal done on her. |
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| Thanks, will look into that next - I got a blood panel done on her yesterday and am going to see where that leads me first. If I don't get anywhere with that a fecal was next. :-) |
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