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FinneyQuarterHorses
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2016-02-21 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: And the rest of the story with Obama's newest land grab.


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streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM

And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah.


While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much?

I think Sneaky Snot's outrage should be looked at a little closer. Apparently she believes that bathrooms, refrigerated and cooked foods, and minimum wages is out of control government regulation for people who slave all day in the hot sun and in fields full of vermin and insects, etc. so the sweet potato lady can get her crop harvested, take it to market, make money, and provide us with candied sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top for our Thanksgiving dinners celebrating our bounty of food.
Did sweet potato lady tell you that white Americans refuse to work in those conditions, so if she is getting labor for minimum wage, she is one lucky producer. And since we are getting our food at the price we pay in our grocery stores, we should consider ourselves lucky that we have safe, tasty eats due to migrant workers who settle for less to harvest and federal quality control regulations designed to keep us from getting infections and disease.

But I guess if pooping in a ditch and cooking over a campfire is good enough for Oregon Militia "Patriots", it should be good enough for people working for a living so we can eat.
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-02-21 9:42 AM
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FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-21 7:21 AM
streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah. While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much?
I think Sneaky Snot's outrage should be looked at a little closer. Apparently she believes that bathrooms, refrigerated and cooked foods, and minimum wages is out of control government regulation for people who slave all day in the hot sun and in fields full of vermin and insects, etc. so the sweet potato lady can get her crop harvested, take it to market, make money, and provide us with candied sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top for our Thanksgiving dinners celebrating our bounty of food. Did sweet potato lady tell you that white Americans refuse to work in those conditions, so if she is getting labor for minimum wage, she is one lucky producer. And since we are getting our food at the price we pay in our grocery stores, we should consider ourselves lucky that we have safe, tasty eats due to migrant workers who settle for less to harvest and federal quality control regulations designed to keep us from getting infections and disease. But I guess if pooping in a ditch and cooking over a campfire is good enough for Oregon Militia "Patriots", it should be good enough for people working for a living so we can eat.

I don't normally agree with finny, but I have to here. yep i said it LOL
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-02-21 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: And the rest of the story with Obama's newest land grab.



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kwanatha - 2016-02-21 9:42 AM
FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-21 7:21 AM
streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah. While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much?
I think Sneaky Snot's outrage should be looked at a little closer. Apparently she believes that bathrooms, refrigerated and cooked foods, and minimum wages is out of control government regulation for people who slave all day in the hot sun and in fields full of vermin and insects, etc. so the sweet potato lady can get her crop harvested, take it to market, make money, and provide us with candied sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top for our Thanksgiving dinners celebrating our bounty of food. Did sweet potato lady tell you that white Americans refuse to work in those conditions, so if she is getting labor for minimum wage, she is one lucky producer. And since we are getting our food at the price we pay in our grocery stores, we should consider ourselves lucky that we have safe, tasty eats due to migrant workers who settle for less to harvest and federal quality control regulations designed to keep us from getting infections and disease. But I guess if pooping in a ditch and cooking over a campfire is good enough for Oregon Militia "Patriots", it should be good enough for people working for a living so we can eat.
I don't normally agree with finny, but I have to here. yep i said it LOL

 The point there was they have more rights than American citizens.   
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-02-21 10:03 AM
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-02-21 10:22 AM
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i just think that we swould have a minimum standard how human beings are treated. I know around these parts the farmers have to provide shade for breaks. well they should: it is stinking hot. my problem is with employers that could drive by in their ac car and not willingly provide shade for their workers in their fields. I sickens me that they had to be forced to do it!
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2016-02-21 11:52 AM
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FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-21 9:21 AM

streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM

And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah.


While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much?

I think Sneaky Snot's outrage should be looked at a little closer. Apparently she believes that bathrooms, refrigerated and cooked foods, and minimum wages is out of control government regulation for people who slave all day in the hot sun and in fields full of vermin and insects, etc. so the sweet potato lady can get her crop harvested, take it to market, make money, and provide us with candied sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top for our Thanksgiving dinners celebrating our bounty of food.
Did sweet potato lady tell you that white Americans refuse to work in those conditions, so if she is getting labor for minimum wage, she is one lucky producer. And since we are getting our food at the price we pay in our grocery stores, we should consider ourselves lucky that we have safe, tasty eats due to migrant workers who settle for less to harvest and federal quality control regulations designed to keep us from getting infections and disease.

But I guess if pooping in a ditch and cooking over a campfire is good enough for Oregon Militia "Patriots", it should be good enough for people working for a living so we can eat.

Well, up here Finney, the Christmas tree farms pay like $20 an hour, under the table, so that workers don't have to endanger their unemployment and welfare benefits, and they STILL can't get home grown citizens to do the work. They come out for one day, in the cold (NOT midwinter),and decide that it is easier to just stay home and collect benefits than it is to do a days work, What does THAT say about the work ethic of the benefit collectors we have raised?? So most of that work is done by migrant and illegals. At least they work (or used to before our government gave them more benefits and rights than WE get).

Like hubby says, I have no issue with people coming here and working towards a better life. I DO have a BIG problem with the politicians GIVING them more rights and resources than a natural born citizen has.. Hubby knows a driver from Guatemala who is working, sending his money back "home" and fully intending to retire BACK in Guatemala where his Social Security will support him VERY comfortably. If you are coming here to work and reap the benefits of citizenship, all the while forcing US to accommodate them in language and other resources, they ought to STAY and BE citizens. IMHO
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-02-21 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: And the rest of the story with Obama's newest land grab.



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People should be provided basic necessities. But yep, they do crap where they want. My husband has a storey that will make you pee your pants about the migrant workers crapping. We hire at a minimum wage of $11.00. Can't get the locals to work. Way too easy to stay home in the hot, cold etc and collect a check. They certainly don't want the babies daddy to work for us because health insurance is only $36./week for a man and his children. But babies momma will have to pay to go to the doctor. $25 a visit. And our plan is affordable for wage deduction. My husband too has legal workers who are planning on going back home to live on their social security in Mexico.
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