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 Ima Cool Kid
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | My bests friend has a grandson. Amazing horse. On the hot side, and always ready to go, but I believe as someone said, it's the HYPP thing people want to stay away from.
My friends is a gelding, and never tested but at almost 30 years old, I think he would have shown a problem in his youth. My daughter rode him for about 10 years, and he pulled a check anywhere from the 1D to the 3D EVERY RUN. I would say he was a solid 2D horse, but could have a bobble and pull a 3d or perfect and have a 1
d (in a 4D format) When he was 24, her horse was injurred and she pulled him out of the pasture for a local ranch rodeo. No leg up or anything and he busted a more ran a 22 second pole run and won the Poles in the rodeo. I wish I had owned 10 of him, he was just fun, honest and great horse to be around.
He is now babysitting in Alabama at 28 years old...and still a little on the hot side when he feels good :)
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 Half-Eaten Cookies
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | mtcanchazer - 2016-04-01 6:31 PM txbredbr - 2016-04-01 3:07 PM I've had a grandson for almost 17 years, now (he's 20), and he's still running strong - he just won a check at Youth Rodeo when the girl hadn't rode him but once in almost a year. I am still running him, myself, as well, but not as much while starting young ones.
His Sire is Impressive Bar Leo - he looks just like him and I wish I could find another. He is N/N and I didn't know much about the stigma before we bought him - the first time I went to look at him he put his muzzle on my shoulder and he was so pretty, despite finding out that he was still on the waiting list for trainer and not even broke when the ad said he was in training, I knew I wouldn't be happy with any other horse. Probably his only "quirk" is that he is better around people than other horses....and I've since learned that is most likely because he seems to want to "guard" his rider/master -- out in the pasture, he's just like a regular horse.
You can do anything on him - he listens to you. He's a 16 hand baby, but very athletic. He will be extremely hard to replace.
This is him last August at 19.
Three Bars has that star --- mine has a LOT of Three Bars....maybe that's it.
Impressive wasn't too tall...15.1, which is kind of surprising to me - for years I pictured him to be bigger.
This horse is a dream - he's slow on trails - peps up when you are near the alley. A very special and LOVED horse.
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Ima Cool Kid
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Location: TN | any time you breed several horses to anyone there will be both good and bad. most problems came from doubling up. I personally love my Impressive bred girls have had the same line for 30 years. its more what you make of a horse than breeding. JMO | |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I had an Impressive bred mare for about 22 years, she was a blown up cutting futurity horse when I got her at an auction, obviously had been drugged to high heavens for the sale,as I hopped on her in a halter on the track and loped some circles both way and fell in love. Got her bought and the next day got on her and she was a basket case. She'd sull up and put her nose to the ground and back up and you couldnt' get her to go forward for anything. Took me 6 months to get her to run away forward and I considered it a victory. Once we put some miles on and she figured out she wasn't in trouble for trying she blossomed into a great little horse, hard headed, single minded, all business, the only one she watched out for was my mom, complete pig on the ground until she was 22, never did mellow out enough to become a kids horse in the arena though she was awesome on the trail for my 80 year old dad. She was a little hot at the gate but simply point her, dont' pull on her head and she'd give you her guts. At 12 she some how fractured her hock in the pasture, was lame and for about 3 days and it ballooned up to the size of a soccer ball. Cold hosed for 3 days until we could get to the vet, by then ,most of the swelling had gone done, passed the flexion test 3 times though she pinned her ears back the whole time. Ended up taking one shot of the hock and found the fractures in the patty shaped bones in the hock, all the way thru verticallly. Vet sent me home with his tens machine that we put on her 3x a day for the first month, kept her penned in a 40x40 pen, anything smaller she paced and spun. Gave her 10 months off, I like to over due time off, had her xrayed again, it was healed and changed her to a lefty first horse as she had a bit of trouble getting that leg up under her like before in tight circles. About 8 years later she degloved herself from the elbow to the coronet band, opened up the fetlock joint capsule, 170+ stitiches later she was a patchwork quilt...3 months later she was back running again, though her first run back she hit the thankfully plastic barrel so hard on teh 2nd barrel it ended up in the roping return alley, LOL!!! Yep, out of the arena. The worse the ground the better that little mare clocked, she out tried most horses and bad ground evened the playing field for her. She was N/H on the HYPP test so never bred her, never had an issue with it however and didnt' know much about HYPP when I got her so she never recieved a special diet either but unless I was running her a lot I never grained her and when I did she got rolled oats. She is buried on our property under her favorite oak tree to hang out at and I honk to her, my HS rodeo mare Ginger and my two dogs that are all buried near there as we pull out of the drive. 4 beeps, day or night. | |
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Location: TX | Regarding Impressive bred horses....a general, blanket statement of "they are hot, they are crazy, etc etc" is not fair to put a stigma on. That happens in every bloodline, lets take into account their training, their rider, the environment, etc when putting labels on.
You have 3 options when having an Impressive bred:
N/N-double negative for the gene-they don't have it and they cannot pass it on. They are asymptomatic. Now, I have had a few colleagues tell me they had N/N's that did show some symptoms but tested negative.
N/H- I've had 2 of these unfortunately as I use to show halter and be very involved with HYPP genetics. They are a carrier of they HYPP gene. Show signs and symptoms, depends on how severe they are effected, diet, exercise, etc. IF they are bred to a N/N there is still a chance of getting an N/N or an N/H.
H/H-100% carrier of the gene. If bred it will be passed on. I believe H/H's are not allowed to be registered anymore because it is very undesirable. I'm sure someone will fact check that.
HYPP affects the muscles. It has to do with the amount of potassium and sodium ion channels. If there is too much potassium those channels open and close very sporadically causing muscle weakness which in turn can cause tremors, collapse,paralysis, loud breathing, even death (considering the heart is a muscle). In the link below the research goes into more depth but for the sake of length I'm keeping the explanation simple.
It can be controlled by diet, exercise, medication (acetazolmide) but you just never know.
all the above including stress and other things can cause an "episode, fit, or attack" as we use to call them.
This is a genetic, inherited disease just like HERDA and other diseases that can now be tested for via DNA testing.
My mare would have falling down fits when she was fed alfalfa and had to be stalled with no turnout. It was awful. Fortunately, we were able to control it very well and her attacks were minimal. She was wicked fast and had a great, gritty ornery attitude. She liked to strut her stuff when she was being shown. Unfortunately, we do not know if she had a fit or slipped on the ice but she hit her head which caused her face to be partially paralyzed and her tear duct dried up causing her eye to shrivel up. She learned to adapt and I even rode her after that.
Long story long, just do your research, take the time. The N/N's could hold great potential but I personally wouldn't touch a N/H with a 50ft pole.
Great information from UC Davis
https://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/hypp.php | |
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