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Location: West Texas | We have used it and it works. I have seen it personally work at the AQHA World Show. It does decrease soreness, stiffness, and some pain. It loosens a horse up. The problem with many vets is that they are not horsemen and therefore can be really closed minded because they think they are so smart.....in theory.
I edited above. Vets are great. Sometimes I think they can look too much at their diagnostic machines and this and that, instead of using old school logic and things learned only through horsemanship.
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| Tell a barrel racer rubbing a frisbee on their horses butt counter clock wise will make them go faster. Get one person who is winning that will do that in the commercials for the BBR webcast and see how many ppl at your local shows start buying frisbees  |
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| Tdove - 2016-04-06 1:02 PM
We have used it and it works. I have seen it personally work at the AQHA World Show. It does decrease soreness, stiffness, and some pain. It loosens a horse up. The problem with vets is that they are not horsemen and therefore are closed minded because they think they are so smart.....in theory.
Getting them out and hand walking them or some turn out time does the same and costs WAYYYYY less.  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | What do vets know....they aren't horsemen. Now that's the problem. |
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Location: West Texas | astreakinchic - 2016-04-06 12:19 PM
Tdove - 2016-04-06 1:02 PM
We have used it and it works. I have seen it personally work at the AQHA World Show. It does decrease soreness, stiffness, and some pain. It loosens a horse up. The problem with vets is that they are not horsemen and therefore are closed minded because they think they are so smart.....in theory.
Getting them out and hand walking them or some turn out time does the same and costs WAYYYYY less.
No it doesn't.... Have you tried it? I was skeptical but we have had it work on our horses and I have seen it work on others too. |
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| I also had my doubts so reading the article was interesting. I've seen a few people get run over just trying to get their horses on them so I never attempted it with my horse. The benefits weren't worth the risk of hurting him or myself. |
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Location: West Texas | I will say one thing, I have seen many horses that weren't that thrilled to get on it the first time, actually want to step up on it. I have one mare that is tight, tight and really always alert. She now gets on it and goes really loose and licks her lips. Anybody with any knowledge of horse behavior knows that the horses at least like it and it relaxes them. That cannot possibly be a bad thing. |
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| astreakinchic - 2016-04-06 12:18 PM
Tell a barrel racer rubbing a frisbee on their horses butt counter clock wise will make them go faster. Get one person who is winning that will do that in the commercials for the BBR webcast and see how many ppl at your local shows start buying frisbees
BINGO! It's a gimmick. |
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| Tdove - 2016-04-06 12:47 PM
I will say one thing, I have seen many horses that weren't that thrilled to get on it the first time, actually want to step up on it. I have one mare that is tight, tight and really always alert. She now gets on it and goes really loose and licks her lips. Anybody with any knowledge of horse behavior knows that the horses at least like it and it relaxes them. That cannot possibly be a bad thing.
We sack our colts out with a flag and bag full of soda cans. They don't like it at first but eventually they stop moving, loosen up, soften and lick their lips too. If I do it every day eventually they will lick and soften as soon as they see the equipment. It doesn't mean they like it. |
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Location: Canada | Sometimes I wonder if it's the placebo effect, not on the horse but on the rider. If the handler/rider/owner feels that the horse is more relaxed, more ready to run, more powerful do we actually create that in the horse.
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Well I guess I don't know what I am talking about then.... and I am guessing you have never used one on a horse that was hurting. I know much better horsemen than you or I that can say they had a horse with an issue and immediately after the Theraplate, or other type device, their horse was much improved. But you can keep your closed minded opinion. I was very skeptical that it could really help much before using one too. We don't have one and I am not someone who profits from anything to do with them. I really have no need to convince anyone here, one way or the other.
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| Tdove - 2016-04-06 1:47 PM
I will say one thing, I have seen many horses that weren't that thrilled to get on it the first time, actually want to step up on it. I have one mare that is tight, tight and really always alert. She now gets on it and goes really loose and licks her lips. Anybody with any knowledge of horse behavior knows that the horses at least like it and it relaxes them. That cannot possibly be a bad thing.
Yeah I used to own a pony plate and then upgraded to a theraplate. Also had one with a stress fracture that licked his lips and fell asleep on the theraplate, it was not helping his injury any tho. Vet was undecided on if it significantly hurt his injury but it sure wasn't helping him. He was on stall rest and theraplate only until figuring out his lameness. Once the lameness was finally pinpointed we quit theraplate treatments and he actually started to heal. Vets felt like the healing was deterred on the plate. Sold both pony plate and theraplate....literally no difference without having their theraplate treatments.
ETA: I'm a huge magna wave, PHT, and BOT fan tho  I don't have them decked out from head to toe but will use for issues and therapy when needed.
One more thing I originally got the plate for overall body and tendon issues. Not that big of a difference for the money....so sold. Plus I was scared of possibly (not saying it did) delaying healing in another horse again.
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| I think that for rehab or injury it would be a good tool to use. Specificaly for soft tissues. But definitely not a pre/post race tool. Stand on one of those for the amount of time your horse would and then try to go for a run. You will feel fatigued.... And after your horse runs, you want the body to recovery, not something that adds fatigue.
Why do people put softrides on their horses and air ride on their Trailer? Why do they put the nice poly flooring in it? To absorb shock/vibration... In my opinion the plates do have serve a purpose like I said above, but outside of that I cannot really see much good in it...
why do people wrap their horses legs in the summer everytime they step foot in the trailer then buy a $500 ice machine or ice boots to reduce heat and inflammation? (YES injury,young Colts, wounds, stocking up-- wrapping is acceptable). What do you do after a hot day at the barrel race? Take your Jeans off and put Shorts on..cuz why? The jeans create and traps heat, why do that for your horse when they're the ones who actually performed?? Sidenote- Yes I do see benefits of BOT/wraps in colder weather, just to keep a horse warmed up and loose.
Same goes for people who feed in a haybag all weekend. Horses are MADE to have their head down grazing, they're not made to eat upwards. With their heads down it let's their sinuses drain and muscles relax and not tense. YET, people buy equi resps to clear their horses nasal passages and pay bookoo bucks for adjustments cuz they can't figure out why their horses poll/jaw is consistently out... "but they waste their hay when it's not in a bag" well I can gurantee you that you'll spend less in a weekend of hay.
Basically my argument is here is to treat a horse like a horse, and the barrel racing therapy industry has you suckered..
Also, I've never have spent the $500 on a magnetic blanket and probably adding to an upwards of 1k for a whole outfit. Ditched my softride after I bought them because they were too heavy, yes they do also serve a purpose for injury/rock/cement situations, BUT have you all ever walked around with ankle weights on for a youth? Lol We are all about using lightweight gear, yet we have these huge rubber shoes on our horses up until we run them. 
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Tdove - 2016-04-06 2:00 PM Cyount, Well I guess I don't know what I am talking about then.... and I am guessing you have never used one on a horse that was hurting. I know much better horsemen than you or I that can say they had a horse with an issue and immediately after the Theraplate, or other type device, their horse was much improved. But you can keep your closed minded opinion. I was very skeptical that it could really help much before using one too. We don't have one and I am not someone who profits from anything to do with them. I really have no need to convince anyone here, one way or the other.
Hey buddy, relax. You may want to spend some time on the theraplate yourself.
You are more than entitled to believe your vodoo magic, don't get mad when others don't.
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Location: West Texas | I wouldn't think a theraplate would help a stress fracture either and I never said he would be licking his lips and getting relaxed because it was healing such things. But I bet it was helping the rest of his body. Horses are no different than people. How many on here believe in Chiro? How many, have had a massage or used a vibrator to relieve soreness, decrease pain, and increase range of motion? I know I have. |
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| Tdove - 2016-04-06 1:00 PM Cyount, Well I guess I don't know what I am talking about then.... and I am guessing you have never used one on a horse that was hurting. I know much better horsemen than you or I that can say they had a horse with an issue and immediately after the Theraplate, or other type device, their horse was much improved. But you can keep your closed minded opinion. I was very skeptical that it could really help much before using one too. We don't have one and I am not someone who profits from anything to do with them. I really have no need to convince anyone here, one way or the other.
Wow, that's a pretty brazen statement, given you don't know me or the horsemen I know. But you are right, I have not used one (I won't put my horse on it, I don't like to be shoock up, I can't imagine they truly would either, personal preference I guess?) but have seen other people I travel with use them, they did get a short time very moderate improvement, but nothing that I could justify spending $3K on. But hey to each their own. If you feel like it's helping your horse than keep on keeping on. I'm just saying your statement about lick lipping and softening doesn't give any insight into how much the horse really enjoys it.
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| Tdove - 2016-04-06 2:10 PM
I wouldn't think a theraplate would help a stress fracture either and I never said he would be licking his lips and getting relaxed because it was healing such things. But I bet it was helping the rest of his body. Horses are no different than people. How many on here believe in Chiro? How many, have had a massage or used a vibrator to relieve soreness, decrease pain, and increase range of motion? I know I have.
Did not know he had the fracture when he was being put on the theraplate.
Love the chiro for myself and horses. I like equimassagers as well.
If you like the theraplate and believe in it keep using it
I just don't think it is worth the money. I'd rather spend money on magna wave treatments for my horses soreness.
I just believe most therapies are gimmicks but they give me confidence that my horse feels better and thus I feel better, comfortable, and more relaxed when competing |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | While I agree that some vets have never been around a horse except for in vet school, I will say I have a vet who actually owns horses and has had world champions. While I don't know his opinion on this type of thing, I do know he is willing to think outside the box. I.e., we did the crest toothpaste and it did actually take off the warts better then the chemical crap he sales.
However, that funny looking guy on TV is selling the MagnaWave you can hold in your hand. That celebrities and sports people use - last month he was selling Emu Oil.
Just an FYI - carry on |
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| 3canstorun - 2016-04-06 2:25 PM
While I agree that some vets have never been around a horse except for in vet school, I will say I have a vet who actually owns horses and has had world champions. While I don't know his opinion on this type of thing, I do know he is willing to think outside the box. I.e., we did the crest toothpaste and it did actually take off the warts better then the chemical crap he sales.
However, that funny looking guy on TV is selling the MagnaWave you can hold in your hand. That celebrities and sports people use - last month he was selling Emu Oil.
Just an FYI - carry on
thats hilarious!!
I dunno who that is because I don't have cable and hardly ever watch TV. I can imagine he's quite the snake oil snakes man tho! They say you only advertise when your business is down. |
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