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Location: IL | miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-04-19 10:58 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 8:49 AM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-04-18 11:09 AM My mother in law has been struggling with an outside horse that has the same issue. got his guts scoped last week and it turns out he had ulcers but they were caused by a HUGE wad of bot fly eggs! We were told to treat him with zimmectrin After the zimmectrin did the vet say what you should do next? I have a horse that was loaded with worms and I'm still struggling with stomach issues with her. I know BOTS don't show up in a fecal. We turned in a fecal sample on Monday for testing and he will update us from there how to continue based on the results.
I did a tube of Anethecide EQ, then 10 days later I did Quest Plus. 10 days after that I did another fecal and she showed some worms. Vet wanted me to do regular Quest and then put her on a daily wormer for 2 months. I recently took her off the daily cause I noticed she was crabby undersaddle and very cinchy. I have her on a Aloe and Marshmellow supplement from Curost, but she still seems sore. I'm getting ready to start a 30 omeprazole treatment. I was just curious what other people were doing. Thanks |
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| merdth6 - 2016-04-19 11:19 AM
miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-04-19 10:58 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 8:49 AM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-04-18 11:09 AM My mother in law has been struggling with an outside horse that has the same issue. got his guts scoped last week and it turns out he had ulcers but they were caused by a HUGE wad of bot fly eggs! We were told to treat him with zimmectrin After the zimmectrin did the vet say what you should do next? I have a horse that was loaded with worms and I'm still struggling with stomach issues with her. I know BOTS don't show up in a fecal. We turned in a fecal sample on Monday for testing and he will update us from there how to continue based on the results.
Curost will not heal ulcers. What are you feeding? Be careful using omeprazole. You do not want to do away with all the acid in the stomach. A horse has to have some acid in the stomach
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Location: IL | readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 11:33 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 11:19 AM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-04-19 10:58 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 8:49 AM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-04-18 11:09 AM My mother in law has been struggling with an outside horse that has the same issue. got his guts scoped last week and it turns out he had ulcers but they were caused by a HUGE wad of bot fly eggs! We were told to treat him with zimmectrin After the zimmectrin did the vet say what you should do next? I have a horse that was loaded with worms and I'm still struggling with stomach issues with her. I know BOTS don't show up in a fecal. We turned in a fecal sample on Monday for testing and he will update us from there how to continue based on the results. Curost will not heal ulcers. What are you feeding? Be careful using omeprazole. You do not want to do away with all the acid in the stomach. A horse has to have some acid in the stomach
I realize Curost doesn't heal ulcers. I was under the impression that it was supposed to, but I'm realizing that my horses are still showing symptoms despite being on it. I feed an all natural diet. My horses get maybe a 1/2 cup of oats and 1/2 cup of flaxseed. Just enought to get their supplements in them. They also have a good alfalfa/grass hay. Omeprazole does not shut down all the acid in a horses stomach, it just lowers it some to help heal ulcers. I'm not looking to use omeprazole long term and I know that there are side effects with using it long term. I've used a lot of supplements that supposed to heal/help ulcer horses and I have not found one yet that seems to work. I also found out that my one mare was loaded with worms, so I'm wondering if that has alot to do with stomach issues she's been having. I'm sure it's not helping the situation. |
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| merdth6 - 2016-04-19 10:38 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 11:33 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 11:19 AM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-04-19 10:58 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 8:49 AM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-04-18 11:09 AM My mother in law has been struggling with an outside horse that has the same issue. got his guts scoped last week and it turns out he had ulcers but they were caused by a HUGE wad of bot fly eggs! We were told to treat him with zimmectrin After the zimmectrin did the vet say what you should do next? I have a horse that was loaded with worms and I'm still struggling with stomach issues with her. I know BOTS don't show up in a fecal. We turned in a fecal sample on Monday for testing and he will update us from there how to continue based on the results. Curost will not heal ulcers. What are you feeding? Be careful using omeprazole. You do not want to do away with all the acid in the stomach. A horse has to have some acid in the stomach
Just my 2 cents here but my horses still showed symptoms even being on the curost Stomach. I did switch to the DePaolo Excel and have seen a lot better results. Just my personal opinion. My young one is really doing well on the curost nourish. The stomach just didn't do much. |
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Location: NE Texas | Ya'll are correct, Cur-OST Stomach formula will not heal ulcers, nor will any other product or medication. These, and other ulcer products, including Omeprazole and Ranitidine change the environment in the stomach so that it can allow itself to heal by either making the environment more moist and wet or by reducing the amount of acid produced by the stomach. The reason we see reoccurences in ulcers after treatment, even with Rx medications, is because the source of the stress causing the irritation hasn't been eliminated. Could be anything from competition, to pain, to something as simple as being stalled. All horses are affected by stress differently, same as humans, which is why some need more stomach support daily, while others can be managed without once the stress and the effects of stress are managed as much as possible.
I know this has been a frustrating journey for you, merdth, and I sure hope you can find something that gets your horse relief. It stinks when we see them not feeling well and can't find a way to help them feel better. :(
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Location: IL | Herbie - 2016-04-19 12:54 PM Ya'll are correct, Cur-OST Stomach formula will not heal ulcers, nor will any other product or medication. These, and other ulcer products, including Omeprazole and Ranitidine change the environment in the stomach so that it can allow itself to heal by either making the environment more moist and wet or by reducing the amount of acid produced by the stomach. The reason we see reoccurences in ulcers after treatment, even with Rx medications, is because the source of the stress causing the irritation hasn't been eliminated. Could be anything from competition, to pain, to something as simple as being stalled. All horses are affected by stress differently, same as humans, which is why some need more stomach support daily, while others can be managed without once the stress and the effects of stress are managed as much as possible.
I know this has been a frustrating journey for you, merdth, and I sure hope you can find something that gets your horse relief. It stinks when we see them not feeling well and can't find a way to help them feel better. :(
Yep kinda stuck! This mare hasn't been competing since last year beginning of October.. I've already had her checked out by a vet and she did show some hock soreness, but had her injected and she seems much better soreness wise. She feels good when riding except she's cinchy and irritable. I was having all kinds of problems with her itching off everything and basically rubbing her skin off her hindend. I had a fecal done back in january and she had a very high worm count. She was wormed per my vets instructions and I was very happy to see that all the itching stopped!! So one problem was finally figured out. Although now I have this stomach problem going on. I gave her 2 doses of left over omeprazole over the course of 2 days and she was a completely different horse!! She wasn't cinchy anymore and rode around relaxed and calm, so I realized my stomach supplements were obviously not working. I don't want to keep her on omeprazole long term and just trying to find something to help her. My mare is turned out with other horses and I really don't stall unless it's super bad weather. She has only been ridden 1 to 2 times a week. I think I will try the Excel and see what that does. I don't think her life right now is very stressful. She basically eats hay all day and hangs out with her pasture mates.
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Location: NE Texas | So sorry. Hope you find the combination that works best for her. Stress comes in so many different forms it's crazy. I have one that stresses if he's stalled and one that stresses if he's not stalled. Haha Stress is different for all of us. I'm not a big fan of shopping....it gives me great anxiety, but I know of plenty of people who think it's relaxing. Stress isn't necessarily seen as negative....it can be anticipation, excitement, etc.
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| merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM
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You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday. |
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Location: IL | readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday.
Is that also known as KER??? I have fed some of their products. Not that feed though. I'm in a weird area to get feed. I wanted to try Renew Gold but I can't get it here. There is a Tribute Dealer and might look into that, but I'm really not feeding much grain at all. Maybe a handful and I can't see that setting her off that bad. |
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Location: IL | Oakley I didn't mean to hijack your post! I'm sorry, please keep us posted about your horse and let us know the outcome  |
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| merdth6 - 2016-04-19 3:58 PM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday.
Yes. But they also have a new product for ulcers. I cant b remember the name. Call them and they can tell you. It is supposed to get fore and hind gut ulcers. |
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Location: IL | readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 4:20 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 3:58 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday. Yes. But they also have a new product for ulcers. I cant b remember the name. Call them and they can tell you. It is supposed to get fore and hind gut ulcers.
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| merdth6 - 2016-04-19 4:39 PM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 4:20 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 3:58 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday. Yes. But they also have a new product for ulcers. I cant b remember the name. Call them and they can tell you. It is supposed to get fore and hind gut ulcers.
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Location: IL | readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 2:02 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 4:39 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 4:20 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 3:58 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday. Yes. But they also have a new product for ulcers. I cant b remember the name. Call them and they can tell you. It is supposed to get fore and hind gut ulcers. The product is called Rite Trac
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readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 4:20 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 3:58 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday. Yes. But they also have a new product for ulcers. I cant b remember the name. Call them and they can tell you. It is supposed to get fore and hind gut ulcers.
The product is called Rite Trac
I was told it healed them. I wasn't paying attention because I'm happy with what I'm using. 125 for a 50 lb bag. Last one horse 90 days. |
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| readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 12:45 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 2:02 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 4:39 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 4:20 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 3:58 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday. Yes. But they also have a new product for ulcers. I cant b remember the name. Call them and they can tell you. It is supposed to get fore and hind gut ulcers. The product is called Rite Trac I was told it healed them. I wasn't paying attention because I'm happy with what I'm using. 125 for a 50 lb bag. Last one horse 90 days.
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 12:45 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 2:02 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 4:39 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 4:20 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 3:58 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday. Yes. But they also have a new product for ulcers. I cant b remember the name. Call them and they can tell you. It is supposed to get fore and hind gut ulcers. The product is called Rite Trac I was told it healed them. I wasn't paying attention because I'm happy with what I'm using. 125 for a 50 lb bag. Last one horse 90 days.
I have used Rite Trac as well and it treats hind and fore gut.
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Location: Idaho | Meyerfarm - 2016-04-19 6:58 PM
I use a compounded paste from my vet that's Omeprazole and Sulcrafate. Sulcrafate treats the hind gut ulcers. $165 for 30 day treatment. then do preventive stuff. you don't need to treat for 60-90 days. this came straight from my vet.
Actually the 60 (minimum)-90 days came from my vet as well, and he has done extensive studies and also went to a seminar who the lead speaker was a Nationally accredited Equine veterinarian who specialized in Equine ulcers, and they had done multiple tests on what had the best results on treating, and maintaining them and that is what he told me, and I didn't have other issues with my horse that had ulcers after that. He just was blown up and didn't like barrels anymore, he is just a trail and cow horse now and is enjoying his life. |
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Location: Kansas | SmokinGirlie - 2016-04-20 1:43 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 12:45 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 2:02 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 4:39 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 4:20 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 3:58 PM readytorodeo - 2016-04-19 2:05 PM merdth6 - 2016-04-19 1:42 PM Thanks! You might try and call Kentucky Equine Research. They used to make neighlox . But the company split and they now have another product. I talked to someone there about the Relieve feed yesterday. Yes. But they also have a new product for ulcers. I cant b remember the name. Call them and they can tell you. It is supposed to get fore and hind gut ulcers. The product is called Rite Trac I was told it healed them. I wasn't paying attention because I'm happy with what I'm using. 125 for a 50 lb bag. Last one horse 90 days.
It does treat ulcers? |
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