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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-06-02 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: Harambe incident



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3canstorun - 2016-06-02 1:56 PM
Nevertooold - 2016-06-02 2:49 PM Over 300 thousand people are demanding on FB that the parents are held responsible for this 4 year old. 19 Juvenilles were arrested in Chicago for shooting, robbing and selling drugs but not a peep about how these parents should be held responsible. Proves how are society is really screwed up.
They had on the news last night - gasp - Fox - some black representatives of Chicago.  A radio man and a lady that worked at a magazine.  They also were talking about that.  Their idea frankly, was to bring in the National Guard and take control of the city in the black areas.  Then slowly with the help of the local police, schools, community leaders establish guidelines and help these people overcome their problems.  They said they cannot do without that type of help.   



Not once did they use the - poor black - thought process.  They did say their part  of the city is ignored because of these problems though.  The locals can't get it together and fight each other at every level.  They called them pure politicians. 


 

Until the black community in Chicago takes a good look in the mirror and finally admit they are the problem, nothing is going to change. Community Policing is nothing new and has already been tried in Chicago. The government created this problem with the subsidized project housing in Chicago. It became their way of life. The government gave them housing and welfare and the end result was the notorious housing projects. Woman got paid per child they had out of wedlock and if they got married or were married they didn't get that extra bonus so they ended up destroying the family. Dealing drugs and prostitution became their sideline as it was fast and easy money and they sure weren't going to work for a labor job as the majority don't have any skills and most don't finish high school.

Fast forward...community policing...didn't happen as they aren't going to rat on their own..When police and ambulances went into the projects they were shot at. The Chicago projects were a war zone.

Next great idea...they tore down Cabrini Green and splattered over 4,000 people throughout Illinois in subsidized housing. So now those communities are dealing with a raise in crime. But Chicago was so proud that their crime rate went down and bragged about it but it didn't take long before they once again had another war zone in Chicago with blacks killing blacks. When police enter those zones to do their job they are put under a microscope and they become the bad guy while the poor thug is declared the victim. Chicago is never going to change..it is what it is. Thugs aren't going to finish high school let alone get job skills as it's just too easy to be a thug and deal drugs. They are too worried about being cool with their rap music, gold chains, fancy cars, gold teeth and wearing their pants around their ankles but at least it's easier for the police to catch them when they try to run.

 
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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-06-02 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: Harambe incident


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1DSoon - 2016-06-02 10:55 AM Here's in irrefutable fact.





ACCIDENTS HAPPEN, it was a bad deal and ole silver back got a raw deal. Should mom have been takeing better care of a little jerome? Sure. But have you ever done something that you wished you would have not done or done better? We all have, because accidents happen. 



Anthropomorphism runs rampant in todays society, they are animals folks, we are the stewards but at the end of the day we are at the top of the food chain for a reason. 



It's stupid that so much time and bandwidth has been devoted to beating this issue up.




 

 I agree 100 percent!!!
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OutlawsLastDance
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2016-06-02 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: Harambe incident


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cheryl makofka - 2016-06-02 2:23 PM

Of the info I have read a few things bother me.

Witnesses stated that the child kept saying to his mom he wanted to go into the gorilla pen, she kept saying no. So if you knew your child wanted to go in there then wouldn't you pay more attention?

The other thing I read was the mom was taking a picture when the child disappeared, again when you are at the zoo wouldn't you want your child to be in the picture?

The child once in the gorilla area was on a rock where someone could have saved him, but the child ignored his mother telling him to stop. To me this is a displine issue, the child had no respect for the authority figure, his mom. The child kept crawling through the bush to be with the gorilla.

I find the mother was very lucky as with her negligence in a crowded area this child could have been abducted.

I didn't hear the bits and pieces about him being on a rock, or her taking a picture when he disappeared.

I too have been hung up on the fact that the kid kept saying he was going to get in that cage. BUT the other thing I read, which wasn't in every article, so may or may not be true, but I read that she had her 2 children, and 4 other children with her. No mention of other parents, so that to me means she was by herself with 6 kids. SO, with that said, I get it, accidents happen, kids get away. BUT more than one parent should be with 6 small-ish children, in a place like a zoo. One parent can barely manage 6 children contained in a home, let alone, loose in a strange place, with stimulating stuff (like big fluffy, cute gorillas), and all the many potential dangers at a place like a zoo. Sounds like the mom should have had that kid on a leash.
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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2016-06-02 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: Harambe incident



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Bear - 2016-06-02 10:41 AM

I'm so sick of hearing about the incident, it isn't even funny.
There's no shortage of human tragedies in this world, yet this unfortunate incident has been sucking all the oxygen out of the air for the past week. We've lost all sense of proportionality, it seems.
Meanwhile, as we mourn the senseless passing of a gorilla, over 60 people were shot in Chicago with 6 deaths over the Memorial Day weekend, and it's barely even noticed.
Now we can focus on more important matters, like who should be allowed in which public loo.

Agree. The focus in America is not in the right place.

And - the zoo IMHO did the right thing to save the little boy. Humans always trump animals. Regardless of how the child ended up in the life-threatening situation, the zoo's crisis team reacted completely correct --- assessed and acted, saving the little boy.
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River
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2016-06-02 6:47 PM
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-06-02 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: Harambe incident


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OutlawsLastDance - 2016-06-02 5:43 PM

cheryl makofka - 2016-06-02 2:23 PM

Of the info I have read a few things bother me.

Witnesses stated that the child kept saying to his mom he wanted to go into the gorilla pen, she kept saying no. So if you knew your child wanted to go in there then wouldn't you pay more attention?

The other thing I read was the mom was taking a picture when the child disappeared, again when you are at the zoo wouldn't you want your child to be in the picture?

The child once in the gorilla area was on a rock where someone could have saved him, but the child ignored his mother telling him to stop. To me this is a displine issue, the child had no respect for the authority figure, his mom. The child kept crawling through the bush to be with the gorilla.

I find the mother was very lucky as with her negligence in a crowded area this child could have been abducted.

I didn't hear the bits and pieces about him being on a rock, or her taking a picture when he disappeared.

I too have been hung up on the fact that the kid kept saying he was going to get in that cage. BUT the other thing I read, which wasn't in every article, so may or may not be true, but I read that she had her 2 children, and 4 other children with her. No mention of other parents, so that to me means she was by herself with 6 kids. SO, with that said, I get it, accidents happen, kids get away. BUT more than one parent should be with 6 small-ish children, in a place like a zoo. One parent can barely manage 6 children contained in a home, let alone, loose in a strange place, with stimulating stuff (like big fluffy, cute gorillas), and all the many potential dangers at a place like a zoo. Sounds like the mom should have had that kid on a leash.

The piece about him being on the rock was on Facebook another mother defending her as she witnessed the child on the rock, her (not the child's mother) husband was going to crawl over and grab the kid from the rock, but the kid was ignoring his own mother to come back and to stop, he went into the bushes and it was no longer safe for the husband to retrieve him
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