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It's not meant to be disrespectful at all! I copied the post from the North Star Stampede page! This is an old time rodeo, going on 61 years. They are old style rodeo as well, and they are keeping it that way because Howard dedicated his life to having the ranch and rodeo! It's understandable absolutely that freak accidents happen! Anytime you get on a ton or 2 ton animal this might not go the way you plan! We aren't discouraging people from wearing helmets a lot of rodeos you can and some you can't. They are simply saying if you need a helmet for any event don't enter cause if you travel far or pay your entry then find out you can't wear a helmet then your out all that! A rodeo last week 3 kids wearing helmets got knocked out riding bulls and a helmet split one of kids neck open. Two kids not wearing helmets that collided with the Bulls were fine. It doesn't always happen that way though. But thank you for your concern and again it was not meant to be disrespectful |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-24 4:17 PM
Hillbilly rodeo committee
Agreed. And judging by the added money, they are a small, low budget operation. In this day and age, decisions like this will turn away contestants. Not a smart business move. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | SKM - 2016-06-25 8:47 AM Here is her comment: It's not meant to be disrespectful at all! I copied the post from the North Star Stampede page! This is an old time rodeo, going on 61 years. They are old style rodeo as well, and they are keeping it that way because Howard dedicated his life to having the ranch and rodeo! It's understandable absolutely that freak accidents happen! Anytime you get on a ton or 2 ton animal this might not go the way you plan! We aren't discouraging people from wearing helmets a lot of rodeos you can and some you can't. They are simply saying if you need a helmet for any event don't enter cause if you travel far or pay your entry then find out you can't wear a helmet then your out all that! A rodeo last week 3 kids wearing helmets got knocked out riding bulls and a helmet split one of kids neck open. Two kids not wearing helmets that collided with the Bulls were fine. It doesn't always happen that way though. But thank you for your concern and again it was not meant to be disrespectful
My comment back would be: please sign this waver:
Your association will be responsible for all of my medical and rehab. care for life should I be injured while competing in your event under your no helmet rule. Please know that your responsibility includes paying for my 6 figure income that my family depends upon so that we can continue to ranch and rodeo as we enjoy. The addition of Pain and suffering in TBI usually runs $800-1500 per day as well.
If I should suffer an injury due to your rule I would hope that the punitive damages dropped on the association will encourge you to not have such a rule that would put others endanger of riding without a helmet if they so choose.
I live and work on a ranch. I'm two hours from a hospital that can take care of a TBI. I've picked up plenty via helicopter in my area and the bill alone for the flight would spin most peoples income into chaos.
I understand western I truly do. I used to ride bulls, I've ridden race horses, I've trained race horses I love the country life. But when precautions can be taken to limit my disability by God I take them! |
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| Simple, Don't go. Geeze people it's not a law we are FORCED to obey or face punishment, it's a rule for an event that's a PRIVILEGE!
Quite frankly, I'm TIRED of this debate over helmets. So many things wrong with the "real" world that nobody cares to speak up about but choose to engage in online battles over something that is a LUXURY AND PRIVILEGE not afforded to all and something WE HAVE A CHOICE IN. SMH |
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One Grateful Mom
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Location: wolverton,mn | This is not a hoax. The barrel race pays out fantastic,as do the other events.
around 15-16 years ago,when helmets and vests started making the their way into the arena ,Howard pitzen wrote and sent everyone a letter. The letter let everyone know what he considered a " real,old time rodeo",he let everyone know that there will be NO SAFETY EQUIPMENT of any kind,including shin guards for barrel racers. He stated no caps or tennis shoes should be seen around his ranch.
The rodeo is pretty big every year and is a huge draw for camping,reunions and rodeo. It's his rodeo and now that he's deceased,the rodeo continues with his rules,for the most part.
like it or not,this is true and has been since the beginning of the rodeo.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I posted this before......but here you go again....THIS is on THEIR FB page.....the sentence about helmets is NOT there......
North Star Stampede. July 29-30-31. Fri 5pm, Sat-Sun 2pm
3 Day pass is required to be in Campground.Or Contestant
Entries Open July 18th, 7am-3pm. 218-743-6463
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EF $20 Novice BB, SB....
EF $10 Mutton Bustin. (Limited entries.)
BB,SB,BR,and SW may enter each day.
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$100 bonus each day for high score in BB,SB, and BR
Additional Bull Riding Bonus. 1st $800. 2nd $500. 3rd $200
Rough Stock and Timed Event All Around Saddles.
Trophy Buckles in each event.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | The post and explanation was on there, if they specified why they have the no helmet rule then maybe people would feel better about it I.e. - those are the deceased mans wishes and that's how it's always been run, but to say "if you need a helmet, don't enter" I think that's pretty rude. My best friend who is a top notch competitor in Alabama was on blood thinners for a blood clot and "needed" a helmet or no riding for her and believe me she can kick some butt and take some names
Either way, whether you're the most talented barrel racer, bull rider, mutton buster or just a beginner, times have changed and people are more aware of the injuries they can sustain participating in these events, so I believe many are "wising up".
Yes, it's a choice and I wouldn't push Anyone to wear or not wear one as its ones individual choice.
And to the other comment on why the helmet debate is such a big discussion right now and why aren't we focused on more important life issues at the moment; it's a barrel racing forum, free to discuss whatever we desire but in the end, it's about barrel racing, and this has been a hot topic lately.
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| If this is true that NO safety equipment is aloud. I would love to know WHAT insurance company this rodeo has. Because they better get ready to payoff on a HUGE lawsuit just a matter of time. I don't care what the original producer wanted the liability here is unbelievable. |
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Saint Stacey
| Funny how safety vests are now mandatory in most associations. Those aren't allowed at this rodeo. Do they get many in the bull riding with this no safety equipment rule? I can't imagine many bull riders wanting to climb on without a vest. Or at least those that have been doing it for awhile. |
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| I used to run a rodeo series that would not let you run in a performance with a helmet. The contractor said you had to wear something with a brim. We used to cut the brims off of hats and glue them to helmets! very redneck!
I'm shocked that in this day and age the committee doesn't allow helmets, and that they can get by with it. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I don't believe this is accurate. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it's a prank. |
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Location: SE Missouri | What's wrong with just not entering that rodeo?
If I wore a helmet (and I have NOTHING against it and have been considering getting one) I just wouldn't enter.. IF the story is true about the founder it Sounds like he was an old school kinda guy and wanted to keep the old time look to it. If they lose competitors then I figure they will revisit the tradition.
I just don't understand why it's anyone else's business what rules they have. Don't like them, don't go.. I do think it could have been communicated completely different and got the point across.
I'm hot and tired and probably just just stick to reading comments ??.
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | well what is good for the goose.... if it is to held with old timey standards then what the H3!! are they advedrtising on facebook for? pretty sure it was not around 61 yrs ago. maybe they should just put an ad in the newspaper...just sayin |
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Location: floating down a river | I am more curious to know what insurance policy they carry and what their premium is. |
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| My advice would be enjoy your rights as an American. Don't go.  |
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Location: Florida.. | Norma posted the real one... thinking that one was a hoax |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Bibliafarm - 2016-06-26 7:52 AM Norma posted the real one... thinking that one was a hoax
Michele posted above that it is true and that's how this rodeo has always been done. |
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Saint Stacey
| hotbear03 - 2016-06-25 11:22 AM
This is not a hoax. The barrel race pays out fantastic,as do the other events.
around 15-16 years ago,when helmets and vests started making the their way into the arena ,Howard pitzen wrote and sent everyone a letter. The letter let everyone know what he considered a " real,old time rodeo",he let everyone know that there will be NO SAFETY EQUIPMENT of any kind,including shin guards for barrel racers. He stated no caps or tennis shoes should be seen around his ranch.
The rodeo is pretty big every year and is a huge draw for camping,reunions and rodeo. It's his rodeo and now that he's deceased,the rodeo continues with his rules,for the most part.
like it or not,this is true and has been since the beginning of the rodeo.
Sounds like hotbear03 has experience with this particular rodeo. I'd trust her account to be more accurate than something pulled off the internet by someone that's never been to it.
Yes, I will use my "American freedom and not enter it". I will also use my freedom of speech to voice the opinion that no safety equipment allowed is a stupid rule. |
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One Grateful Mom
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Location: wolverton,mn | The post I wrote is a FACT. I still have the letter he wrote to my ex husband,found it in a drawer a few weeks ago.
It is a very OLD TIME RODEO!
If someone believes what I posted to be untrue,go ahead and call the entry number and ask!
The rules of their rodeo are clear upon entry. Most everyone up this way knows this. The steers are huge,mammoth,lol!
Howard Pitzen also wrote a book,google it. His sons are stock contractors in Mn.
The rodeo has been this way for decades! I ran there years ago,the barrel race pays out like a slot machine,it's great!
It doesn't matter to me who doesn't believe what I wrote,it's the rules of his rodeo! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | SKM - 2016-06-26 8:24 AM hotbear03 - 2016-06-25 11:22 AM This is not a hoax. The barrel race pays out fantastic,as do the other events.
around 15-16 years ago,when helmets and vests started making the their way into the arena ,Howard pitzen wrote and sent everyone a letter. The letter let everyone know what he considered a " real,old time rodeo",he let everyone know that there will be NO SAFETY EQUIPMENT of any kind,including shin guards for barrel racers. He stated no caps or tennis shoes should be seen around his ranch.
The rodeo is pretty big every year and is a huge draw for camping,reunions and rodeo. It's his rodeo and now that he's deceased,the rodeo continues with his rules,for the most part.
like it or not,this is true and has been since the beginning of the rodeo.
Sounds like hotbear03 has experience with this particular rodeo. I'd trust her account to be more accurate than something pulled off the internet by someone that's never been to it. Yes, I will use my "American freedom and not enter it". I will also use my freedom of speech to voice the opinion that no safety equipment allowed is a stupid rule.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/124064723760/
Edited by NJJ 2016-06-26 10:07 AM
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