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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | What do you feed? |
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| He had been getting a complete feed that his owner gave me. And I was giving him alfalfa pellets. I am taking him off the compete feed. |
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| Wyoming Barrel Racer, where can I find more info about THE gastro plus? I googled it and Gastroplus and Gastroplus Pro came up, is that the same thing? |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Buckles - 2016-09-06 7:01 AM So after posting, bought him a alpaca cinch and he seemed like he had been fine. Then two days ago he is acting very sore on both sides again and now very sore along his back. I am hoping I did not buy myself another problem, I have had sooo many issues with the two other horses I have  He is not acting out of the norm at all. I had taken him on a couple hour trail ride the other day and that when I noticed the back pain afterwards right after unsaddling him. He seems perfectly happy the entire right though, ears up eager to go. His back is worse this morning than it was a couple days ago when I palpate it. Its the muscle on the sides, no reaction at all to palpating his spine. I don't know what to do. ETA: I have also giving him some excel from depaolo equine concepts that I had from another horse
I would be checking saddle fit on this horse, sounds like he was fine when you bought him or else you would not have bought him and now hes got sorness issuses since you started rideing him, I would be checking the cinch, my pads and saddle fit. The only cinches I use is the ones that are fleece covered. What type of saddle pad and saddle are you useing now? This all sounds like the saddle could be causeing this horse to be sore. And make sure his feet are balanced. And I would have a Chiro go over this horse befor I rode him anymore. |
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| I would also check to make sure that your horse isn't out in the sternum, rib or withers. That can make them cinchy too. |
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| He started showing pain around his girth before I even rode him. Just was putting saddles on him to fit him, he wasn't worked in them so I don't see how the saddle would have sored him then. |
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    Location: Dubach, LA | Buckles - 2016-09-06 12:47 PM He started showing pain around his girth before I even rode him. Just was putting saddles on him to fit him, he wasn't worked in them so I don't see how the saddle would have sored him then.
Is there anyone close to you that could put a second set of eyes on your tack? |
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| Here's a comprehensive article on handling ulcers that gives you alot of info (http://www.lunatunesfreestyles.com/horse_ulcers.htm). I have 2 mares that have had this cinchiness problem on and off - not right now thank goodness - I think we have it under control. I also did some body work on them this last week and there was a noticeable difference in the cinchy situation as well as pure movement. Freed up. Treating them with ameprozole is what I started out with and I saw a difference and now they are on ulcer guard which is inexpensive from the feed store. I also like feeding a digestive aid as well as keeping their diet as natural as possible. Good luck! |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Buckles - 2016-09-06 6:53 AM Wyoming Barrel Racer, where can I find more info about THE gastro plus? I googled it and Gastroplus and Gastroplus Pro came up, is that the same thing?
Here is the website. I sell it for $118 shipped. http://www.totalhealthenhance.com/#!products/nx9tw/!/GastroPLUS/p/59387380/category=18301016 |
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         Location: So. California | Was the horse 5 panel tested? I would test for PSSM1... Simple and inexpensive. |
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| https://equinenutritionnerd.com/2014/01/02/alternative-options-for-s... |
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| Now his back pain is even further down his back towards his hips. Had the chiro check him, nothing out, just very tight in his muscles along his back. Tested him for pssm 1, n/n. He has not been ridden since 9/5. Had the vet look at him, which honestly wasn't helpful, basically it was a well it could be ulcers or it could be a back problem, take him to the equine hospital and spend hundred and hundreds of dollars that I don't have for scoping, x-rays, ultrasounds. Put him on methocarbomal, a pretty high dosage, been 3 days and I see absolutely no improvement. Pulled his shoes off yesterday, hes definitely out of balance, but I am not really sure its enough to cause that much back pain?
Any thoughts?
ETA: Had him on about 10 days of ranitidine as well and saw no difference
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| Have you checked his kidneys? I would get some blood work done. |
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| No I have not. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Have a vet do a rectal exam and check his pelvis. They have have pelvis injuries without you really knowing it. I had one in patyre that never showed back end lameness. He must have slipped and cracked it because several vets later and lots of $$$, a cheap rectal exam found the asymmetry. They can even ultrasound the area and see if anything looks out of place. Mine rode absolutely sound. We ran barrels although he was blowing out of 2nd but would wrap 3rd. Everyone thought hocks or stifles. He had back pain but would run once for me after being chiro'd/massaged. |
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| Reason I bought this horse is because my other horse injured his SI. Good thing I was an idiot and didn't get a vet check. |
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| It might be ulcers, but I recommend a Chiropractor adjustment. My gelding was really cinchy for a while. He didn't have ulcers and his saddle fits well. I took him to a chiropractor to get a regular adjustment and he re adjusted his under carriage. I haven't had any cinching issues since. Quite amazing, he doesn't even pin his ears back anymore when he sees the saddle. |
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| I did have him adjusted already and I just called the chiro this morning to see if she'd come out again |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Buckles - 2016-09-23 10:48 AM Reason I bought this horse is because my other horse injured his SI. Good thing I was an idiot and didn't get a vet check.
It happens, but hopefully it is an easy fix for you. |
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| Here are his front shoes, my husband took each nail out individually, then just let the shoe fall of his foot so it was not pulled on to have it twisted like that. His foot matched up with what the shoe looks like,
First three I believe was his left front, last picture was his right front
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