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IRunOnFaith Reg. Dec 2009	Posted 2016-10-12 11:26 AM Subject: RE: Shipped semen screw up - 3 YEARS AGO update!!!
Expert Posts: 3815 Location: The best kept secret in TX	Found the original thread with all the info and back story for the new commers. http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=469256&posts=229&mid=7240286&highlight=&highlightmode=1&action=search#M7240286
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Gator Bug Reg. Oct 2003	Posted 2016-10-12 11:49 AM Subject: RE: Shipped semen screw up - 3 YEARS AGO update!!!
Elite Veteran Posts: 705 Location: Weatherford, TX	IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-12 11:19 AM Gator Bug - 2016-10-12 11:10 AM IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-12 10:56 AM Gator Bug - 2016-10-12 10:47 AM IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-12 9:22 AM Gator Bug - 2016-10-11 12:08 PM FlyingJT - 2016-10-10 11:22 AM Gator Bug - 2016-10-10 9:42 AM ThreeCorners - 2016-10-09 6:56 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-10-09 4:26 AM Get rid of your lawyers and file in small claims court in your state/county and let vet cover his butt how ever he wants to ... vet no show .. you win by default and then file a lien on his house and business ... lol ... it works ... Filing fees are less than $200 and limitations in different states are $5k to 15k .. if you win he has to pay your filing fees too ... She has way more then that invested. She bought the embryo out of one of the top NFR calf roping horses in the world. Paid a breeding to a different stallion. Paid for the embryo transfere and paid for the recipient mare. Only to have the schmuck of a vet inseminate with the wrong semen. Of which obviously they didnt find out untill after the foal was born and all her time and money out the window. I have been following this thread for some time. I thought she purchased the babies after they were abou 10 days old or so. She didn't purchase them as embryos and breed them. Am I wrong? Because I would think the person that bred them would be the one to sue and then make it right to her if that is the case. Added to say, I wouldn't be happy either purchasing a baby at 10 days old and then be embroiled in a DNA problem. I remember it the same way. That's why the "who to sue" is a mess. She has to sue the owner of the colt she purchased from, who then has to sue the vet... I remember it being multiple parties involved. I think they paid for the colt at the price agreed upon with the original stud, not Can't Bully This Guy. I agree. If I read it all correctly, the OP bought two babies at 10 days old. If she bought the babies at 10 days old, she needs to go back on that seller and then he needs to re-coop the breeding fees from the vet. It is a mess. However, if I have read all the threads correctly, I don't think the OP bred the babies as stated above, the OP bought them at a very early age. Plus, if I read everything correctly, Pearl (the NFR Champion Rope Horse) was bred to the correct stud when the OP purchased the two babies at 10 days old. The other mama was a full sister to Pearl and that was the breeding/baby that was screwed up. Again, if that is the case, that seller of the two babies needs to make it right, and then go back and get their money out of the vet. It is a big mess and I would not be happy either. Didn't the vet either own or partially own Can't Bully This Guy? The way I remember the threads, it was the vet's girlfriend that owned the stud, CBTG. The vet actually had no ownership in the stud. So, unless your implying that the vet did it on purpose to promote his girlfriend's stud, why wouldn't he have done it on the actual 'Pearl' baby, but he did it on the full sister? To me that doesn't make sense. If you were intentionally doing so very wrong....then why wouldn't you do it on the mare with such an amazing record? There is no no big motive or pay off there to do it on the full sister. I truly think this was a bad mistake, and one I would not be remotely happy with. However....she still bought these colts at 10 days old. She is not the breeder of them. The seller needs to make right and then sue the vet. I am saying that in legal terms. Again, I would be really mad if I bought a colt that did not have the papers I was looking for. I wasn't implying the vet did it on purpose. But I knew that one of them owned the stud which is why the stud's cooled semen was easiliy accessible to the vet. The OP has already figured out who to sue and what to sue for per her Attorney's advice by now I'm sure. It's now just a waiting game for courts and legal action. To me, it doesn't matter who she sues as long as someone takes responsibility. I know the OP has stated in previous threads that she and her family have already bonded with the horse and the seller suggested just selling the horse back to them or something to that effect. I know we are all just curious how the horse is doing. I'd love to see pictures. All I am saying is that she is on trashing the vet and some people are posting (based on what she did/did not post and what other posters read into them) that she actually bred these babies. Again, all I am saying is that her actual legal beef or her social media beef is with the wrong person as she did not breed them. Her problem should be with the seller and then the seller (the one who actually bred them and had the contract with the vet) should go back on the vet. I just think it is wrong to carry out something on social media when you have a legal standing in another way. I hope everyone understands what I am saying. I understand. But If I remember correctly the seller found out after the babies were sold and in the OP's possesion. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I see your point. Maybe we can look up the old threads and post them for the newcommers to get aquainted with the facts fo the situation? From what I read on ALL of the earlier postings was that the OP bought them at 10 days old from the person that bred them. She purchased one colt by the Vegas stud out of 'Pearl' (that was the correct breeding) and then the other colt that SHOULD have been by the Vegas stud and out of a full sister to Pearl. It was the colt out of the full sister that got screwed up. Now, the way I read ALL of the previous postings, she bought from the breeder of these babies at 10 days old. She did not buy from someone who bought them from the breeder, she bought directly from the breeder of these babies. It is all confusing, but I think I have followed correctly. I asked these questions before on previous postings with no response. Again, the OP's problem would be who she purchased them from and then that person (the breeder) goes back on the vet as that is who the contract was between. Again, as the OP bought them at 10 days old and to go trash the vet and stud now, is not legally right. If the breeder wants to trash them, then fine. Although I understand the anger, I just think all this blame and all the trashing is misplaced. I would also love to see a picture of the baby and how he doing now under her care. Everything happens for a reason....as the saying goes. Ya never know, you could end up with a world beater. Edited by Gator Bug 2016-10-12 12:09 PM
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cowboytravel Reg. Mar 2004	Posted 2016-10-13 12:28 PM Subject: RE: Shipped semen screw up - 3 YEARS AGO update!!!
Simons Stalker Posts: 2065 Location: Grandfield, OK	Sorry, I was out of touch for a while. Everthing is right, I did buy the colts at 4 and 10 days old. The problem is we bought them from a good friend that works for the state of Florida and will lose his job if he is in any type of litigation. He did assign his rights to us but the problem I am having now is finding an attorney that wants to take it on a contingency fee. We did sell Pearl's baby for $30,000 as a yearling and expected this colt when we purchased him to actually be better than Pearl's baby, because in my opinion, Coconut is a better horse than Pearl, just not as famous. She can run faster and is bigger. The colt now is with Coconut's owner because he is the only foal she has ever had. I didn't want him on my place. When this is over, they will own the GELDING. If anybody on here is an attorney or knows one, I would love to visit with them. I do believe they did it on purpose and I have an e-mail to back that claim up. If I have any takers or anybody needing clarification, please feel free to text or call me, Felicia Miller @ 940-631-5007. You girls have awesome memories. :)
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OregonBR Reg. Dec 2003	Posted 2016-10-13 12:46 PM Subject: RE: Shipped semen screw up - 3 YEARS AGO update!!!
Champ Posts: 19623 Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm	I hope you get it resolved in your favor.
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