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| stayceem - 2016-10-19 6:12 PM
GLP - 2016-10-19 5:36 PM
stayceem - 2016-10-19 5:20 PM
SKM - 2016-10-19 2:45 PM
scwebster - 2016-10-19 1:19 PM
 If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.
As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.
Tuf isn't going to change. He isn't the choir boy people seem to think. He's arrogant, self serving and greedy. I've gotten flamed more than once for speaking this. I saw his dad in action plenty of times and believe me, Tuf is walking in those footsteps. Tuf is a great roper. Probably one of the best. I have respect for his skill with a rope. His skills as a human being...not so much.
I have such a hard time with this, I am not saying you are right or wrong but he was so polite to me at the American, at the American where this all went down. He went out of his way and was so polite. I think, I am nobody, he could have blown me off. No one was around but he didn't.
I have my reservations about this whole ordeal but it is really heartbreaking to consider it being true. For anyone really but for someone who is looked up to.
Many of these people are one way in public and another behind the scenes. They are just like people you know. I am sure he appreciates his fans but don't you think it strange he took an extra swing and double wrapped his calf's legs when so much money was up? Even his dad was dumbfounded. He said he must have had a good reason but with so much money on the line, he couldn't believe he safetied up. He said it was uncharacteristic for Tuff to do that.
Many famous people say and do things in private that they would not do in public.
I totally understand that but I just was surprised if he really is as shady as some make him seem, usually they are pleasant in public places but I literally ran into him in the parking lot. I just felt it was above and beyond what even I expected of him.
With that said, I do find it weird he did what he did that day. But I also think it is interesting that the investigations didn't go further. I almost wish it wouldn't have settled and I would be interested to know what the settlement was as others have mentioned. Like I said, I have my feelings that go both ways. Part of me thinks they didn't have merit which is why it was held up in so many ways, part of me thinks his performance was odd, but part of me also feels like his Dad wouldn't have made those comments as I feel his Dad would have known something about it.
Lots of ways this goes. Either way it is a shame.
I agree it is a shame this happened. But he was nice to you and seemed genuine it sounds like, so just remember No one is perfect. So often we put our heroes/famous people on pedestals and expect them to be infallible. They aren't. Root for him if you want to and remember his good side. If I had a good experience with someone that is what I would do.  |
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| scwebster - 2016-10-19 2:19 PM If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.
As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.
If this were the NFL, the gamblers would have made Tuff disappear by now. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Knowing Cole and his family, I have absolutely no doubt that what he said is true.
Not to mention that Cole had absolutely ZERO to gain in the situation, except the ridicule of THE most influential family name in his sport and all their fan base. Cole did the right thing because he was raised right, and I'm sure his mama is smiling down on him. |
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Location: Deep South | I think the details of the settlements will come out eventually. The rodeo world is small. I think that's what these "superstars" with 100K+ followers on social media lose sight of. |
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| Don't you "imagine" it is some sort of payback to the American, so that they will drop the case? What other reason would there be "to settle?" |
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| I hope the 3 who were in on it are banned from ever competing at an American event |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | The moral of this story is don't put anyone on a pedestal. We are all human and have our problems or faults. You can respect someone for parts of who they are or something they are good at, while realizing they are not perfect. |
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| jbw tx mom - 2016-10-20 9:27 AM
I hope the 3 who were in on it are banned from ever competing at an American event
I doubt that will happen. I'm pretty sure the guy who's in charge of The American took over the ERA. Since Tuf is one of the main ERA players, I'm willing to bet it will be business as usual. |
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Location: The edge of no where | SKM - 2016-10-20 4:03 PM jbw tx mom - 2016-10-20 9:27 AM I hope the 3 who were in on it are banned from ever competing at an American event I doubt that will happen. I'm pretty sure the guy who's in charge of The American took over the ERA. Since Tuf is one of the main ERA players, I'm willing to bet it will be business as usual.
Not quite true ~ Randy is no longer employed by RFD-TV and is NOT in charge of the American. Nor did he take over the ERA - he's consulting for them. |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | SKM - 2016-10-19 2:45 PM scwebster - 2016-10-19 1:19 PM If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.
As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.
Tuf isn't going to change. He isn't the choir boy people seem to think. He's arrogant, self serving and greedy. I've gotten flamed more than once for speaking this. I saw his dad in action plenty of times and believe me, Tuf is walking in those footsteps. Tuf is a great roper. Probably one of the best. I have respect for his skill with a rope. His skills as a human being...not so much.
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Location: South Central Florida | OregonBR - 2016-10-20 12:05 PM The moral of this story is don't put anyone on a pedestal. We are all human and have our problems or faults. You can respect someone for parts of who they are or something they are good at, while realizing they are not perfect.
I agree 100% but forgiving people and understanding we are all flawed, does not exempt us from the consequences of our behavior. It may not change his salvation, or much else, but God will allow us to fall from grace if we chose. This is and was illegal. Fixing NFL, MBL and NBA games gets a lot more than a quiet settlement and this is the same. No ony a let down to the fans in that moment, but I'll never watch him the same again. I didn't know he had a reputation of being known for being rude but I only watch TV.
I DO wish Rodeo news and stories as well as comentairy were more indepth. If this came up with another sport, the story would be all over...not seceret deals, even if they were in college.
I hate when people say "You can't say anything bad, they are at the NFR". I prevents honest stories and distracts from the sport. I also think it slows the growth and is part of the reason Rodeo is not as big as other sports. If Athletes cry any time someone says something mean about them. . . Holy cow.
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Location: Deep South | Swannranch - 2016-10-21 3:57 PM
OregonBR - 2016-10-20 12:05 PM The moral of this story is don't put anyone on a pedestal. We are all human and have our problems or faults. You can respect someone for parts of who they are or something they are good at, while realizing they are not perfect.
I agree 100% but forgiving people and understanding we are all flawed, does not exempt us from the consequences of our behavior. It may not change his salvation, or much else, but God will allow us to fall from grace if we chose. This is and was illegal. Fixing NFL, MBL and NBA games gets a lot more than a quiet settlement and this is the same. No ony a let down to the fans in that moment, but I'll never watch him the same again. I didn't know he had a reputation of being known for being rude but I only watch TV.
I DO wish Rodeo news and stories as well as comentairy were more indepth. If this came up with another sport, the story would be all over...not seceret deals, even if they were in college.
I hate when people say "You can't say anything bad, they are at the NFR". I prevents honest stories and distracts from the sport. I also think it slows the growth and is part of the reason Rodeo is not as big as other sports. If Athletes cry any time someone says something mean about them. . . Holy cow.
I think a little scandal would only help the sport. As long as the scandal is about the individuals and not the sport itself. I mean you definitely don't want to broadcast if a calf breaks its leg on rodeo grounds or something along those lines.
But people love drama! It gets them hooked, more involved. Could imagine the kind of exposure rodeo would get if one of our contestants showed up in the tabloids?? *gaspppp* Lol! |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose. Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty. So will Tuf.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose. Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty. So will Tuf.
tell us more about this?
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Location: South Central Florida | That's actually exactally what I mean. As it is, if you say someone isn't good with their hands, or being more balanced would help them...OMG you get attacked! A few years ago a repete NFR Barrel Racer had a horse change, actually several, in the last weeks going into the NFR. Several of us (myself and other BB's) asked what happened to her horse? HOLY COW, we got slammed...it was none of our business, if she doesn't want to talk about it she doesn't have to, I mean it was rediculeous. The reason for this famous horse being retired was never ever released as common knowledge or in articles. And people attacked because the rider is really shy and gets her feelings hurt really easy, and people need to be nice, after all she has been to the NFR. What??? What has any of that got to do with competition, rodeo or the horse??? It was actually bizzar but I have seen it happen again and again.
I am fine with being able to see real stories about the athletes. I happen to believe the "stories" about Cooper based on some of the bb's that have posted and have always been upfront about other subjects.
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Location: South Central Florida | He was betting on Baseball games that he was also playing in. Serious No No. Lots of players have gotten in big trouble for "fixing" games, this is no different.
Betting on a game you are playing in means you can change the out come of the game...and win or lose your bet.
Which is what this is, if it's true.
Hey, could The American make a rule that any Invite's that make the final HAVE to rope first, Qualifiers rope last. Because once a qualifier has a time, all the rest have to do is miss, or not ride, or slow down. Since Qualifiers are the only ones that can win the Million (or portion of) the Invite's could not risk them missing, hitting a barrel, not making a ride. Just an idea
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | 1DSoon - 2016-10-21 4:29 PM Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose. Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty. So will Tuf.
tell us more about this?
1987 Cincinnati Reds catcher betting on 52 games he played in. Sports gambler in general. Permanently banned from MLB in 1989. He was a great player who will be remembered for nothing but this bad behavior.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:51 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-21 4:29 PM Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose. Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty. So will Tuf.
tell us more about this?
1D knows this, hes just messing with you Frodo  |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Frodo - 2016-10-21 6:51 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-21 4:29 PM Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose. Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty. So will Tuf.
tell us more about this?
Pete Rose, Charlie Hustle was never a catcher. 1st, 3rd and a bit of outfield.
he is clouded in controversy, but he is most known as the Hit King with an MLB leading 4200 base hits.
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | 1DSoon - 2016-10-21 6:35 PM Frodo - 2016-10-21 6:51 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-21 4:29 PM Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose. Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty. So will Tuf.
tell us more about this?
he is clouded in controversy, but he is most known as the Hit King with an MLB leading 4200 base hits.
Doesn't make much difference what position you're playing if you're gambling on the outcome of the game you're playing in. |
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