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Location: In The Land of Cotton | scwebster - 2016-10-25 3:08 PM Why is this happening? We need to stop it, and quickly.
Because we keep voting in people who think the people who "have more" need to spread the wealth.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | This was from 2 years ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/04/03/why-am-co-sponsoring-save... |
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| scwebster - 2016-10-25 3:08 PM Why is this happening? We need to stop it, and quickly.
why beacuse those senators and respresative that we re elect every timethey are up could not be boathered to read it vote the sob out |
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Location: Kansas | vjls - 2016-10-25 2:51 PM scwebster - 2016-10-25 3:08 PM Why is this happening? We need to stop it, and quickly. why beacuse those senators and respresative that we re elect every timethey are up could not be boathered to read it vote the sob out
In all fairness they weren't given time to read it. This was ramrodded through in the middle of the night by Obama and his band of liberal morons. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Frodo - 2016-10-25 3:25 PM vjls - 2016-10-25 2:51 PM scwebster - 2016-10-25 3:08 PM Why is this happening? We need to stop it, and quickly. why beacuse those senators and respresative that we re elect every timethey are up could not be boathered to read it vote the sob out
No, not "in fairness". If they didn't know what it said, the vote should have been NO. |
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Location: BOSSIER CITY, LA | Someone on here told me about Christian Healthcare Ministries - you may look into that. My husband didnt have insurance through work so we did this. Since it is a christian ministry it qualifies for insurance and in his case it cost less than the fine. We have had to use it a few times this year and were very satisfied. |
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| Just remember NOT ONE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR THIS POS LAW. The is totally on the Dem's. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Supporters?
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Location: So. California | And how long has the Republicans controlled the House and Senate? Yet NOTHING has been done to correct this farce!!! The fact that not even one bill has gone before both the House and Senate is telling on the current legislators. It's a shell game between the two parties, so that they can keep the populace divided and arguing amongst ourselves. They've had the time and the votes, what has stopped them??? 
The insurance companies are making out like a bunch of bandits! Anyone know what their profits were for FY2015? or any QY2016 data? I'd be curious to know...
I currently have Obmacare and it went up 25% for 2017. CRAZY!!!!
I don't yet know what my tax credits will be (deducted from the premium) so I am waiting to choose a new plan for a few more weeks until I can figure this out. In the meantime, I will likely be forced to change plans from a PPO to an HMO, and lower my coverage in order to reduce the premium amount to something affordable.
The only thing I do know, is that was much cheaper than COBRA.  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Keep in mind, the Obamunists have their "eye on the prize" and it is not ObamaCare. I repeat it is NOT ObamaCare. ObamaCare is a Machiavellian tool.
The big enchilada is a shift of 20% of the American economy to the federal government. That means more control, more power, and a huge step toward Oligarchy.
Oligarchy is the the goal. We are already close. Government controlled single payer is what will push them over the goal line.
When that happens, kiss the USA goodbye. Kiss American exceptionalism goodbye. Enter mediocrity and a servile citizenry ruled by a progressive-liberal oligarchy. |
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| Frodo - 2016-10-25 3:25 PM
vjls - 2016-10-25 2:51 PM scwebster - 2016-10-25 3:08 PM Why is this happening? We need to stop it, and quickly. why beacuse those senators and respresative that we re elect every timethey are up could not be boathered to read it vote the sob out
They should never voted for it since they couldn't read it - so it's still on them. Heck we knew it would be bad, so did they, yet they voted for it against our wishes. |
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Tell It Like It Is
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Location: Wyoming | Obamacare was never about health care or health insurance. It was and is all about control.
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Location: So. California | Bear - 2016-10-25 4:42 PM Keep in mind, the Obamunists have their "eye on the prize" and it is not ObamaCare. I repeat it is NOT ObamaCare. ObamaCare is a Machiavellian tool. The big enchilada is a shift of 20% of the American economy to the federal government. That means more control, more power, and a huge step toward Oligarchy. Oligarchy is the the goal. We are already close. Government controlled single payer is what will push them over the goal line. When that happens, kiss the USA goodbye. Kiss American exceptionalism goodbye. Enter mediocrity and a servile citizenry ruled by a progressive-liberal oligarchy.
And I repeat my question, why hasn't the Republican controlled House and Senate done anything to FIX this mess? They've had 6 years.... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Anniemae - 2016-10-25 9:28 PM
Bear - 2016-10-25 4:42 PM Keep in mind, the Obamunists have their "eye on the prize" and it is not ObamaCare. I repeat it is NOT ObamaCare. ObamaCare is a Machiavellian tool. The big enchilada is a shift of 20% of the American economy to the federal government. That means more control, more power, and a huge step toward Oligarchy. Oligarchy is the the goal. We are already close. Government controlled single payer is what will push them over the goal line. When that happens, kiss the USA goodbye. Kiss American exceptionalism goodbye. Enter mediocrity and a servile citizenry ruled by a progressive-liberal oligarchy.
And I repeat my question, why hasn't the Republican controlled House and Senate done anything to FIX this mess? They've had 6 years....
Good question, Anniemae. That's why I'm no longer a Rebublicrat.
They are pussified. Too meek....and too corrupt. That's how a guy like Trump steamrolled over 16 GOP darlings in the primaries. He was a wrecking ball, and they got what they deserved. |
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| Obama care was a ploy to help the insurance companies. $3000 deductible is insane while you are stil paying the monthly premiums. This was put into effect illegally anyway. Any candidate but Hillary. |
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| Yall should be on the other end of Obozo care - the insurance companies RULE the world - we have a small independent pharmacy and the are paying only 7 to 10 cents above the cost of the drug and many drugs they pay less than the cost - we have on prescription that we actually loose 800.00 dollars a month each time it is filled - the insurance company says we must fill it at a loss or loose the contract all together with them - I have been ready to shut the door and close up for 4 years - sadly the hubby wont but we cant keep hanging on - he is worried about his elderly customers the next towns over would require them to drive on interstate 20 for 18 to 22 miles and frankly they barely can drive in out little one horse town without causing major accidents |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbw tx mom - 2016-10-26 8:33 AM
Yall should be on the other end of Obozo care - the insurance companies RULE the world - we have a small independent pharmacy and the are paying only 7 to 10 cents above the cost of the drug and many drugs they pay less than the cost - we have on prescription that we actually loose 800.00 dollars a month each time it is filled - the insurance company says we must fill it at a loss or loose the contract all together with them - I have been ready to shut the door and close up for 4 years - sadly the hubby wont but we cant keep hanging on - he is worried about his elderly customers the next towns over would require them to drive on interstate 20 for 18 to 22 miles and frankly they barely can drive in out little one horse town without causing major accidents
The insurance companies will be casualties of ObamaCare as well.
If you like Amtrack, you will love US Healthcare, which will evolve into a wholly-owned subsidiary of the U.S. Government.
Amtrack, is owned by the government. The budget is set by congress, basically. The CEO is appointed by the president. Amtrack's tens of thousand employees are all union. Every time someone boards an Amtrack train, taxpayers lose money. Now, this is not a perfect analogy, I realize, but it does give us an idea.
Free enterprise, and free market capitalism is a big reason why healthcare around the globe is a beneficiary of American ingenuity and innovation. The vast majority of the advances seen in healthcare around the world is because of our healthcare system, with all its flaws and shortcomings. Even though some 80% of our citizens were satisfied with their healthcare, the Obamunists have seen healthcare is the big enchilada in their ultimate quest for power, under the guise of a socialist utopia. ObamaCare was the critical step in the eyes of the progressive plutocrats. The next step is single payer. Rather than identify the problem (skyrocketing healthcare costs), and fixing it, the Obamunists have seized upon this crisis to hijack 20% of the U.S. Economy. This will give them an enormous political advantage, and more power. Healthcare will continue to be very expensive, while the quality will devolve into a VA type system....mediocre at best. Wait times and rationing will skyrocket. Innovation will decline. Everything connected with healthcare will be negatively effected. The only people who will benefit from this will be the plutocrats.....the few, wealthy elites who will control this bloated oligarchy. |
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Location: Kansas | GLP - 2016-10-25 6:49 PM Frodo - 2016-10-25 3:25 PM vjls - 2016-10-25 2:51 PM scwebster - 2016-10-25 3:08 PM Why is this happening? We need to stop it, and quickly. why beacuse those senators and respresative that we re elect every timethey are up could not be boathered to read it vote the sob out They should never voted for it since they couldn't read it - so it's still on them. Heck we knew it would be bad, so did they, yet they voted for it against our wishes.
No Republican voted for this insanity.
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Location: So. California | Frodo - 2016-10-26 11:04 AM GLP - 2016-10-25 6:49 PM Frodo - 2016-10-25 3:25 PM vjls - 2016-10-25 2:51 PM scwebster - 2016-10-25 3:08 PM Why is this happening? We need to stop it, and quickly. why beacuse those senators and respresative that we re elect every timethey are up could not be boathered to read it vote the sob out They should never voted for it since they couldn't read it - so it's still on them. Heck we knew it would be bad, so did they, yet they voted for it against our wishes.
And yet the Republicans have yet to fix it.
And that is my issue with the GOP. They control the House, Senate, the majority of governorships AND control the majority of state congresses. Yet, they have done NOTHING to correct the healthcare system! So much easier (and beneficial to them) to blame the Dem's, then to get off their collective asses and fix healthcare. Yes, the democrats voted in this outrageous bill. What happened to all those promises from our Senators and Congressmen about repealing or fixing Obamacare? Isn't that why we voted them into office? Again, not a single bill has been passed through the House and Senate on healthcare. Who's fault it that??? |
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