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| moeman17 - 2017-01-26 3:28 PM
Just wondering what the real benefits are for pay the extra money for a ff prospect vs paying less for one that isn't?
I dont think you should have to pay more since it only cost $150 to enroll them, but it does draw more prospective buyers. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Our futurity horse for last year won over $2000 in Future Fortunes bonus money. It only cost me $150 to pay her in. And she's eligible for bonus money for life with no additional fees.
More often than not I have been paid back when I have enrolled something in. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I just looked at the new Future Fortunes foal enrollment form and it appears they have changed it. It used to be $200 to grandfather any age foal into the program the first year a stallion was enrolled into the program. That is how I got my horse in. I have entered numerous FF events and so far haven't won any money. They pay out 5 places and unfortunately I usually place right under those 5 people almost every time. |
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Location: IL | reese_tx - 2018-01-18 3:08 PM I know this is an older thread, but wanted to bring it back up. My 2015 filly is eligible for BBR Select Stallion and Future Fortunes. I mailed BBR check for $200, all good there. I had mailed FF a check for $200 (after calling to confirm the amount b/c it's a bit confusing esp when you don't know when a stallion was enrolled) - they sent it back stating it's $500. I called to confirm and they said the stud is a 2018 stallion so the fee is $500. I'm new to understanding how the stallion incentives work, but appears FF changed for 2018 and all off spring of enrolled stallion is now $500. I just can't bring myself to send in $500 - that just seems really high to me. Don't think i'm going to do it. Does the average barrel racer (few of us get to haul and go as much as we would like, i'm sure), is it really worth it? Just curious to others opinions.
OK I just paid my 6 yr old mare into FF, her sire was Fuel Charger who is now deceased. Her pay in was $500. How old is your horse? Who is the sire? |
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Location: IL | reese_tx - 2018-01-18 3:33 PM 2015 filly by CRM Livewire (had mailed in check in dec 2017 cause thought I needed to get in by 2017 in order to get in before fees went up for 2018 - as did the stallion owner, she also thought he was 'grandfathered').
I just looked on the enrollment form and it does state 2015 foals are $500 to sign up. Even if you sent it in by end of 2017 she still would have been $500
http://futurefortunesinc.com/forms/FutureFortunesFoal18.pdf |
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Location: IL | Call them and tell them this sire was just enrolled this year, and thought they grandfathered any foals for $200. See what they say.
Edited to say, looks like it changed to $500 for 2018, since he is a newly 2018 stallion, then all foals 2 yr old and up are $500, last year is was $200 but this stud was not in FF yet.
Edited by merdth6 2018-01-18 3:46 PM
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Location: IL | reese_tx - 2018-01-18 3:44 PM merdth6 - 2018-01-18 3:40 PM reese_tx - 2018-01-18 3:33 PM 2015 filly by CRM Livewire (had mailed in check in dec 2017 cause thought I needed to get in by 2017 in order to get in before fees went up for 2018 - as did the stallion owner, she also thought he was 'grandfathered'). I just looked on the enrollment form and it does state 2015 foals are $500 to sign up. Even if you sent it in by end of 2017 she still would have been $500
http://futurefortunesinc.com/forms/FutureFortunesFoal18.pdf Yes, on the form online now it does read that way. If you'll notice, on the bottom right of that form it says it was updated 1/10/2018. The form I used when I printed in 2017 (and called FF to confirm the amount I should send in ) states it's $200 for 2017 newly enrolled FF stallions - Foals yearling & older (received by 12/31/17 ). This form reads "updated 7/5/2017".
read above, I edited my last comment. If you go to the rules, it explains it. |
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Location: NE Texas | merdth6 - 2018-01-18 3:42 PM
Call them and tell them this sire was just enrolled this year, and thought they grandfathered any foals for $200. See what they say.
Edited to say, looks like it changed to $500 for 2018, since he is a newly 2018 stallion, then all foals 2 yr old and up are $500, last year is was $200 but this stud was not in FF yet.
I called. Got nowhere. I give up - will just focus on BBR races. I think the change for 2018 is nice benefit for those with 'older' horses to newly enrolled stallions, but $500 for a 2yo and the stallion was just enrolled. No thanks. |
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Location: IL | reese_tx - 2018-01-18 3:57 PM merdth6 - 2018-01-18 3:47 PM reese_tx - 2018-01-18 3:44 PM merdth6 - 2018-01-18 3:40 PM reese_tx - 2018-01-18 3:33 PM 2015 filly by CRM Livewire (had mailed in check in dec 2017 cause thought I needed to get in by 2017 in order to get in before fees went up for 2018 - as did the stallion owner, she also thought he was 'grandfathered'). I just looked on the enrollment form and it does state 2015 foals are $500 to sign up. Even if you sent it in by end of 2017 she still would have been $500
http://futurefortunesinc.com/forms/FutureFortunesFoal18.pdf Yes, on the form online now it does read that way. If you'll notice, on the bottom right of that form it says it was updated 1/10/2018. The form I used when I printed in 2017 (and called FF to confirm the amount I should send in ) states it's $200 for 2017 newly enrolled FF stallions - Foals yearling & older (received by 12/31/17 ). This form reads "updated 7/5/2017". yes thanks. The confusion comes in b/c I was told he was enrolled in 2017, not 2018. Where can you see of FF the year the stallion was enrolled?
If you go to stallions and hover over his name it does say 2018 stallion |
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