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Location: Cocoa, Florida | RockinGR - 2017-01-30 11:15 AM
Riding videos. Taken yesterday after no riding for 6-7 weeks. He's not in great shape, but he plays enough everyday that he's in decent shape.
https://youtu.be/T2izzMxpJH4
https://youtu.be/7oAsquMtaIU
For reference, I'll see if I have a video of one of the first times I tried to take him through.
In the videos he doesn't look soft supple and relaxed, going to your 2nd and 3rd he's not using his butt to get up under himself and to the 3rd especially he's swishing his tail and bracing on his front end, is say pain related for sure. Just my opinion. |
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Look closely at 1st video. R back is not flexing under much as left back.
Rule of thumb-
Head up usually says it's the rear end. Head down is front end.
I would think about getting your pony checked on hocks n stifles.
Very nice pony :0))) |
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Location: In between 4 ridges | My guy does the same thing. I also used that same cinch, have switched to a mohair and am currently treating for ulcers...
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Thank you. That means a lot because I raised him, sold him, then bought him back 7 years later after he was blown up because I didn't want him ending up in a bad place. He was a freaking train wreck when I got him back. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | RnRJack - 2017-01-30 1:28 PM
He looked off on his front right and maybe sore on his feet, short stepping? Could have just been nervousness or concrete ground but I noticed front right def shorter?!
Could be a number of things, you said he was blown up before so maybe no one did any maintenance on him and he's anticipating the pain still?
In the cinching video or in both cinching and riding? I'm not ruling out some soreness, though it's hard for me to see because he is SO SO SO SO much better than when I got him back. He was run sore, and did anticipate it for a long time. I may take him down and put him on the lameness locater when I take my other horse to OSU in a couple of weeks.
P.S. the ground was pretty hard in the video. They had just got done with a team roping and I got to ride afterwards, but not with worked ground :( |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | Yakima - 2017-01-30 1:40 PM
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Look closely at 1st video. R back is not flexing under much as left back.
Rule of thumb-
Head up usually says it's the rear end. Head down is front end.
I would think about getting your pony checked on hocks n stifles.
Very nice pony :0)))
I noticed that as well, first lope the horses head was in the air more, looked more relaxed going the other direction. Looks hind end sore in barrel video but could be coming from anywhere. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | RockinGR - 2017-01-30 1:47 PM
RnRJack - 2017-01-30 1:28 PM
He looked off on his front right and maybe sore on his feet, short stepping? Could have just been nervousness or concrete ground but I noticed front right def shorter?!
Could be a number of things, you said he was blown up before so maybe no one did any maintenance on him and he's anticipating the pain still?
In the cinching video or in both cinching and riding? I'm not ruling out some soreness, though it's hard for me to see because he is SO SO SO SO much better than when I got him back. He was run sore, and did anticipate it for a long time. I may take him down and put him on the lameness locater when I take my other horse to OSU in a couple of weeks.
P.S. the ground was pretty hard in the video. They had just got done with a team roping and I got to ride afterwards, but not with worked ground : (
I see the ground was hard and I would take that into consideration, but still think he's sore, if it were MY horse I'd get him checked out. It's the tail swishing too. Could be a list of things. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | RnRJack - 2017-01-30 1:32 PM
RockinGR - 2017-01-30 11:15 AM
Riding videos. Taken yesterday after no riding for 6-7 weeks. He's not in great shape, but he plays enough everyday that he's in decent shape.
https://youtu.be/T2izzMxpJH4
https://youtu.be/7oAsquMtaIU
For reference, I'll see if I have a video of one of the first times I tried to take him through.
In the videos he doesn't look soft supple and relaxed, going to your 2nd and 3rd he's not using his butt to get up under himself and to the 3rd especially he's swishing his tail and bracing on his front end, is say pain related for sure. Just my opinion.
Not arguing, but in reference to the tail swishing...he flags a little, I had a half sister that did the same thing. Her's was not pain related, I exhausted every option looking into it, she just ran with her tail up. Both she and this gelding play in the pasture with their tails up as well. So I'm not sure how much of a sign that might be. He also did it as a young horse when we were just starting him.
I too feel like he is bracing for 2nd and 3rd. We've had a lot of troubles with those. I do not have the eagle eye to see if it's pain or anticipation of turning and/or pain. Or if there is actually pain... |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Yakima - 2017-01-30 1:40 PM
IMO -
Look closely at 1st video. R back is not flexing under much as left back.
Rule of thumb-
Head up usually says it's the rear end. Head down is front end.
I would think about getting your pony checked on hocks n stifles.
Very nice pony :0)))
I will be getting him checked out again :) Thank you! |
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Location: Alabama | I just have to know... is he an OTMR grandson?
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | cowgalsissy - 2017-01-30 1:10 PM
Would he buck if you started lunging him or hopped on and rode pretty quickly after saddling? And if he did is it a rear feet up or all feet down hop?
Have you tried without the rear cinch as well?
I too hate the "bubbles" on that cinch btw...
No, he does not buck at all. Even when I first got him back and he was definitely sore, he did not buck. He rode like a lumber truck, but he didn't buck. Now, as long as he's not worked up about something he's one of the smoothest horses to ride. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Sockittoemred - 2017-01-30 1:56 PM
I just have to know... is he an OTMR grandson?
Nope, no OTMR in him anywhere.
He actually has ApHC papers. Sire is Go Man Go and Triples Image (Three Bars), with some far off Skipper W. Dam is Sonny D Bar and further back she is Go Man Go. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Hes a good looking fella, how big of a fella is he and whats his breeding? Maybe once you get a different cinch on him he'll free up some, he just looks worried to me..  |
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| had a mohair cinch. Bought a Toklat fleece cinch and could hear my horse going AHHHHH! He loves it. |
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Location: Claremore, OK | A lot of times horses that are sore in the front end (feet, especially) will act like that when they're first cinched up. If you haven't had a good lameness exam with flexion tests done on black top, I would. Also hoof test the front feet, especially across frog and heels.
Given his bloodlines, I'd don't thin you can rule out PSSM either. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | RockinGR - 2017-01-30 2:10 PM
Sockittoemred - 2017-01-30 1:56 PM
I just have to know... is he an OTMR grandson?
Nope, no OTMR in him anywhere.
He actually has ApHC papers. Sire is Go Man Go and Triples Image (Three Bars ), with some far off Skipper W. Dam is Sonny D Bar and further back she is Go Man Go.
I can see a lot of the sonny d bar in him, big stocky boy. He's handsome |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RockinGR - 2017-01-30 2:10 PM Sockittoemred - 2017-01-30 1:56 PM I just have to know... is he an OTMR grandson? Nope, no OTMR in him anywhere. He actually has ApHC papers. Sire is Go Man Go and Triples Image (Three Bars ), with some far off Skipper W. Dam is Sonny D Bar and further back she is Go Man Go.
Oopps didnt see this, I like him, hes a Beast..  |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-30 2:12 PM
Hes a good looking fella, how big of a fella is he and whats his breeding? Maybe once you get a different cinch on him he'll free up some, he just looks worried to me..
He's bigger than he looks (IMO). He is probably 15.2-3hh. Not a brickhouse built horse, but he's not a bean pole either. Really really balanced, which is a stamp from daddy. He profiles almost exactly like his half sister, and he runs just like her too. She was on the hot/flakey side, but could run the prettiest, most honest pattern you've ever seen, every time. |
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