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Southtxponygirl
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Posted 2017-02-12 4:04 PM
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jake16
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euchee - 2017-02-12 1:55 PM

Β Is all they have to do is come in the legal way then there wouldn't be a problem.
I'm tiried of all these people saying that the crops are rotting and such because the illegals have been arrested and no one else will work the hours that they do.Β  Sounds to me like they were treated more like slaves then employee's.Β  Maybe the unions need to get ahold of these type of employee's and set them straight.Β  Pay decent wages and take care of their employee's then they will have americans working for them.Β  Yes I know the prices would have to raise but that would be of set by Americans having more money from more jobs.
But what the heck do I know, I'm just some dumb deplorable hick from the sticks.


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Or maybe we can send some of free bee people to go pick crops......I hope their time is limited to cause I'm tired of supporting them :) I know a few I can have sent to pick crops lol
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2017-02-13 6:12 AM
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Venezuela's dictatorial government has totally collapsed and its people are wanting to leave their disintegrating country......wanna guess where they're all opting to go?  The land of plenty where welfare, food stamps and free medical is available for everybody compliments of the American taxpayer.   I know many people working two jobs, one for their family and one for families of illegals who have zero interest in working.
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janjan1
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2017-02-13 8:39 AM
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I will go abit further than my OP....as much as we as Americans want the illegal folks to get off our financial overload, and go back to their original homes to apply the RIGHT way to come back into america, we need to think about the number of legal americans who are freeloading the system. I am sure everyone knows someone or whole families who have generations upon generations milking the system. I know I do. When everyone is saying oh the illegals take jobs away from tax paying americans. Well, they actually take the jobs that Americans wont work. I hear it all the time, I cant find a job...well the jobs are out there, but they just would rather collect a check rather than break a sweat. I have had people work part of a shift and leave because they can make more $$$ sitting on their butts. We have a whole country of lazy ass people that WE support. If you are truly disabled, fine. But something has to give folks. We must get these people back actually working. If YOU want my assistance, you can and WILL do something to earn it, AND there will be a time limit. Dont ever say you wont do something, because you can & will under the right circumstance. TO earn money to eat, yes you will. LEarn from the illegals who do work any job, several jobs in fact, to earn $$$. BUT I also know there are just as many who freeload too. BUT the point is, we have a work force here in the USA, we just have to get them motivated to get off their duff. If not, then they too can get out.
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FinneyQuarterHorses
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2017-02-13 9:03 AM
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I realize this is an alt-right love fest, but I do have to object to your characterization of "all Hispanic illegals", because to be clear that is who you are talking about, just wanting to mooch off the American taxpayers. You have obviously never actually looked at who is doing the work at horse farms, roofing and construction companies in the south, and picking the fruits and vegetables you eat and pay a fair price in the grocery store for.
If you want to work in the US, it is a stringent, very limited expensive process aggravated by a disfunctional process based more on appeasing the people like you rather than meeting the needs of, for example agricultural producers and construction companies. There is no legal "line" for most people from that area of the world and a simple google search for immigration rules would explain that. Hard! The Eastern European immigrant had a totally different set of rules. So rather than spread "fake news" that you support lazy Mexicans, remember that red states and Corporations are the biggest drag on the American taxpayers' teat there is and the guys on that roof in the 110 degree Oklahoma and Texas heat look nothing like you. So unless white people want to pick up the slack and actually work at jobs they think are beneath them, they better figure out the immigration system and quit playing the victim.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2017-02-13 9:10 AM
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casualdust07 - 2017-02-12 1:57 PM But guys, be careful, your white privilege is showing. *TOTALLY SARCASTIC*. if I get that told to me one more time, I'm really not sure what I'm going to be able to hold back. Just a side story on the ridiculous ideology behind the people who support all this... I was eating lunch with a bunch of other 4th year vet students. One of them is a friend of mine, he's from west TX, and married an Asian lady who is super sweet. They have 3 kids with a fourth on the way. He is really good at impersonations of lots of things, but hes especially good at impersonating an Asian accent. So he was telling a story about one of his trips going to visit another university and how he stopped in for lunch at a Chinese restaurant. The girl answering the phones and taking orders had a strong Asian accent (which he impersonated really well for the story) then said as soon as she was off the phone she spoke in completely normal English without any accent at all. Two of the girls in the room told him to stop speaking in an Asian accent as it was offensive to Asian people. I looked at them and I said, he's married to one and has three children that are half Asian! I think he's pretty involved in Asian culture. They said no, he's just a white dude. He then said the same thing- half of my family's Asian... no, they still said he was offensive. So I said, wait, if I speak in a British accent is that also offensive? And they said YES! Because speaking in accents is making fun of people. I was totally bewildered.

 Holy crap, people are crazy.    I can't imagine walking around being that sensitive...it must be exhausting. 
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HarlanLivesOn
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2017-02-13 10:08 AM
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cranky B4 10am - 2017-02-12 9:42 AM

I've said it before, and will say it again. About time these illegals are being dealt with!!!

Yes, I am an immigrant, I came to this country 12 years ago for work, I was supposed to go back after 5 years, but love it here so much I wanted to stay.Β Oh and found the man that is now my husband.Β 
And we did it the correct way! So 10 years after I came here, and 5 years after we got married I finally became a citizen!
Does it take a long time? YES!
Does it take a lot of effort? YES!
Is it cheap? NO!Β 
Am I glad I did it? HECK YES!!

And does it chafe my butt to see the entitled whiney illegals, which are breaking the law, protest about being deported? OMG YES!!Β 

One other thing, I came here and adjusted to the American way of life. Now grant it, coming from a western European country it wasn't that different then it would be from somewhere out of the Middle East, but still... you want to come live here, because you are trying to escape the dangerous and volatile world you came frome, yet you want to change this country to that same standard???? Nope nope nope.... then you best stay put and deal with it, because your life would not change one bit!!!! Just the landscape.....

Anyway, getting of my soapbox now, but I for one am glad Trump won, and I am pround to say this was the first election I got to vote in, and yes, I did vote for him and am not afraid to say it!!!Β 


I wasn't aware that you're from another country... Cool! Where from?
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Katie's
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2017-02-13 10:26 AM
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Exactly OP.  He's just enforcing rules and laws that were already in place.  Also, IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGALS are two entirely different topics - ILLEGALS are just that - not here legally.  Immigrants are here because they followed procedures and rules and are welcome.
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roxieannie
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2017-02-13 11:20 AM
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FinneyQuarterHorses - 2017-02-13 9:03 AM I realize this is an alt-right love fest, but I do have to object to your characterization of "all Hispanic illegals", because to be clear that is who you are talking about, just wanting to mooch off the American taxpayers. You have obviously never actually looked at who is doing the work at horse farms, roofing and construction companies in the south, and picking the fruits and vegetables you eat and pay a fair price in the grocery store for. If you want to work in the US, it is a stringent, very limited expensive process aggravated by a disfunctional process based more on appeasing the people like you rather than meeting the needs of, for example agricultural producers and construction companies. There is no legal "line" for most people from that area of the world and a simple google search for immigration rules would explain that. Hard! The Eastern European immigrant had a totally different set of rules. So rather than spread "fake news" that you support lazy Mexicans, remember that red states and Corporations are the biggest drag on the American taxpayers' teat there is and the guys on that roof in the 110 degree Oklahoma and Texas heat look nothing like you. So unless white people want to pick up the slack and actually work at jobs they think are beneath them, they better figure out the immigration system and quit playing the victim.
 Well, my lazy won't do that kind of work, white a*s, yes I did roofing in the summer. Worked at two different race tracks. Worked at several barns cleaning horse sh^t. 
That was when I was young finding my self. Just ten years ago, in my early 50's I worked all summer building fences out in south east Texas marshes. Very few Mexicans would do that kind of work. Most of them drug up. 
Characterization .........  Of a people you say......
edited to say, I'm white and proud of it. 


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cranky B4 10am
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2017-02-13 11:31 AM
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HarlanLivesOn - 2017-02-13 10:08 AM
cranky B4 10am - 2017-02-12 9:42 AM I've said it before, and will say it again. About time these illegals are being dealt with!!!



Yes, I am an immigrant, I came to this country 12 years ago for work, I was supposed to go back after 5 years, but love it here so much I wanted to stay. Oh and found the man that is now my husband. 

And we did it the correct way! So 10 years after I came here, and 5 years after we got married I finally became a citizen!

Does it take a long time? YES!

Does it take a lot of effort? YES!

Is it cheap? NO! 

Am I glad I did it? HECK YES!!



And does it chafe my butt to see the entitled whiney illegals, which are breaking the law, protest about being deported? OMG YES!! 



One other thing, I came here and adjusted to the American way of life. Now grant it, coming from a western European country it wasn't that different then it would be from somewhere out of the Middle East, but still... you want to come live here, because you are trying to escape the dangerous and volatile world you came frome, yet you want to change this country to that same standard???? Nope nope nope.... then you best stay put and deal with it, because your life would not change one bit!!!! Just the landscape.....



Anyway, getting of my soapbox now, but I for one am glad Trump won, and I am pround to say this was the first election I got to vote in, and yes, I did vote for him and am not afraid to say it!!! 


I wasn't aware that you're from another country... Cool! Where from?

 Lol, not many people know. And I really usually don't mention it all that much. After all I am an American now... But I was born and raised in the Netherlands.
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2017-02-13 11:48 AM
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I have never figured out what part of illegal is so hard to understand.  No, they are not "undocumented workers", they are breaking the law by being here, therefore eligible to be deported as a criminal.  We will never get wages up as long as bosses can hire illegals for nothing because they have no rights. 
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Posted 2017-02-13 11:56 AM
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HarlanLivesOn - 2017-02-13 10:08 AM

cranky B4 10am - 2017-02-12 9:42 AM

I've said it before, and will say it again. About time these illegals are being dealt with!!!

Yes, I am an immigrant, I came to this country 12 years ago for work, I was supposed to go back after 5 years, but love it here so much I wanted to stay.Β Oh and found the man that is now my husband.Β 
And we did it the correct way! So 10 years after I came here, and 5 years after we got married I finally became a citizen!
Does it take a long time? YES!
Does it take a lot of effort? YES!
Is it cheap? NO!Β 
Am I glad I did it? HECK YES!!

And does it chafe my butt to see the entitled whiney illegals, which are breaking the law, protest about being deported? OMG YES!!Β 

One other thing, I came here and adjusted to the American way of life. Now grant it, coming from a western European country it wasn't that different then it would be from somewhere out of the Middle East, but still... you want to come live here, because you are trying to escape the dangerous and volatile world you came frome, yet you want to change this country to that same standard???? Nope nope nope.... then you best stay put and deal with it, because your life would not change one bit!!!! Just the landscape.....

Anyway, getting of my soapbox now, but I for one am glad Trump won, and I am pround to say this was the first election I got to vote in, and yes, I did vote for him and am not afraid to say it!!!Β 


I wasn't aware that you're from another country... Cool! Where from?

I second that... I am european, got my citizenship 6 years ago. I am also glad that Trump won. I earned that right to vote, I am proud of it!!!!
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2017-02-13 12:26 PM
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janjan1 - 2017-02-13 8:39 AM I will go abit further than my OP....as much as we as Americans want the illegal folks to get off our financial overload, and go back to their original homes to apply the RIGHT way to come back into america, we need to think about the number of legal americans who are freeloading the system. I am sure everyone knows someone or whole families who have generations upon generations milking the system. I know I do. When everyone is saying oh the illegals take jobs away from tax paying americans. Well, they actually take the jobs that Americans wont work. I hear it all the time, I cant find a job...well the jobs are out there, but they just would rather collect a check rather than break a sweat. I have had people work part of a shift and leave because they can make more $$$ sitting on their butts. We have a whole country of lazy ass people that WE support. If you are truly disabled, fine. But something has to give folks. We must get these people back actually working. If YOU want my assistance, you can and WILL do something to earn it, AND there will be a time limit. Dont ever say you wont do something, because you can & will under the right circumstance. TO earn money to eat, yes you will. LEarn from the illegals who do work any job, several jobs in fact, to earn $$$. BUT I also know there are just as many who freeload too. BUT the point is, we have a work force here in the USA, we just have to get them motivated to get off their duff. If not, then they too can get out.

^^^^ Thank you for typing exactly what I was going to say.....the welfare system is loaded with MANY others than the illegal hispanics!  
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NJJ
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Posted 2017-02-13 12:30 PM
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Vickie - 2017-02-13 11:48 AM I have never figured out what part of illegal is so hard to understand.  No, they are not "undocumented workers", they are breaking the law by being here, therefore eligible to be deported as a criminal.  We will never get wages up as long as bosses can hire illegals for nothing because they have no rights. 

That is the bigger problem.....start levying BIG fines against the "employers" who knowingly employ illegals and they will stop hiring them!  
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Posted 2017-02-13 2:59 PM
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janjan1 - 2017-02-13 9:39 AM I will go abit further than my OP....as much as we as Americans want the illegal folks to get off our financial overload, and go back to their original homes to apply the RIGHT way to come back into america, we need to think about the number of legal americans who are freeloading the system. I am sure everyone knows someone or whole families who have generations upon generations milking the system. I know I do. When everyone is saying oh the illegals take jobs away from tax paying americans. Well, they actually take the jobs that Americans wont work. I hear it all the time, I cant find a job...well the jobs are out there, but they just would rather collect a check rather than break a sweat. I have had people work part of a shift and leave because they can make more $$$ sitting on their butts. We have a whole country of lazy ass people that WE support. If you are truly disabled, fine. But something has to give folks. We must get these people back actually working. If YOU want my assistance, you can and WILL do something to earn it, AND there will be a time limit. Dont ever say you wont do something, because you can & will under the right circumstance. TO earn money to eat, yes you will. LEarn from the illegals who do work any job, several jobs in fact, to earn $$$. BUT I also know there are just as many who freeload too. BUT the point is, we have a work force here in the USA, we just have to get them motivated to get off their duff. If not, then they too can get out.

jan  you know me i am lucky i can work at home  and i am totally disabled    nick in chasworth we same level but it has not stopped him 

?i know a bunch of wheelers  that are quad not para but quads that work and run their business then i know some that absolutely cannot

?i had a renter   on disability full no more disable than  a normal person but he had it down was trying to get all of his underage kids too     i wish there was a hot line

?but i think like welfare  they need to work for it  grow a commuinty garden etc 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-02-13 4:06 PM
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FinneyQuarterHorses - 2017-02-13 9:03 AM

I realize this is an alt-right love fest, but I do have to object to your characterization of "all Hispanic illegals", because to be clear that is who you are talking about, just wanting to mooch off the American taxpayers. You have obviously never actually looked at who is doing the work at horse farms, roofing and construction companies in the south, and picking the fruits and vegetables you eat and pay a fair price in the grocery store for.
If you want to work in the US, it is a stringent, very limited expensive process aggravated by a disfunctional process based more on appeasing the people like you rather than meeting the needs of, for example agricultural producers and construction companies. There is no legal "line" for most people from that area of the world and a simple google search for immigration rules would explain that. Hard! The Eastern European immigrant had a totally different set of rules. So rather than spread "fake news" that you support lazy Mexicans, remember that red states and Corporations are the biggest drag on the American taxpayers' teat there is and the guys on that roof in the 110 degree Oklahoma and Texas heat look nothing like you. So unless white people want to pick up the slack and actually work at jobs they think are beneath them, they better figure out the immigration system and quit playing the victim.

I see you're back. Is this the first time you ventured out since 11/8? Stick around. You serve a very useful purpose. We need input from the Alt-left.
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Posted 2017-02-13 4:08 PM
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Vickie - 2017-02-13 11:48 AM

I have never figured out what part of illegal is so hard to understand.Β  No, they are not "undocumented workers", they are breaking the law by being here, therefore eligible to be deported as a criminal.Β  We will never get wages up as long as bosses can hire illegals for nothing because they have no rights.Β 

Absolutely
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2017-02-13 6:28 PM
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Vickie - 2017-02-13 11:48 AM I have never figured out what part of illegal is so hard to understand.  No, they are not "undocumented workers", they are breaking the law by being here, therefore eligible to be deported as a criminal.  We will never get wages up as long as bosses can hire illegals for nothing because they have no rights. 
That is the bigger problem.....start levying BIG fines against the "employers" who knowingly employ illegals and they will stop hiring them!  

 Exactly!  For every illegal picked up at the jobs slap a big ass fine on the employers.  Once they have to pay so much they might think twice.  Tysons will be out of workers until they decide to pay good wages to citizens

 
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Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2017-02-13 9:34 PM
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FinneyQuarterHorses - 2017-02-13 9:03 AM

I realize this is an alt-right love fest, but I do have to object to your characterization of "all Hispanic illegals", because to be clear that is who you are talking about, just wanting to mooch off the American taxpayers. You have obviously never actually looked at who is doing the work at horse farms, roofing and construction companies in the south, and picking the fruits and vegetables you eat and pay a fair price in the grocery store for.
If you want to work in the US, it is a stringent, very limited expensive process aggravated by a disfunctional process based more on appeasing the people like you rather than meeting the needs of, for example agricultural producers and construction companies. There is no legal "line" for most people from that area of the world and a simple google search for immigration rules would explain that. Hard! The Eastern European immigrant had a totally different set of rules. So rather than spread "fake news" that you support lazy Mexicans, remember that red states and Corporations are the biggest drag on the American taxpayers' teat there is and the guys on that roof in the 110 degree Oklahoma and Texas heat look nothing like you. So unless white people want to pick up the slack and actually work at jobs they think are beneath them, they better figure out the immigration system and quit playing the victim.

Do you have any answers to the problem so WE can quit playing the victims? I capitalized it because it seems as tho you aren't including yourself in OUR American problem. . . .

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SC Wrangler
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Posted 2017-02-15 1:55 PM
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euchee - 2017-02-13 6:28 PM
NJJ - 2017-02-13 12:30 PM
Vickie - 2017-02-13 11:48 AM I have never figured out what part of illegal is so hard to understand.  No, they are not "undocumented workers", they are breaking the law by being here, therefore eligible to be deported as a criminal.  We will never get wages up as long as bosses can hire illegals for nothing because they have no rights. 
That is the bigger problem.....start levying BIG fines against the "employers" who knowingly employ illegals and they will stop hiring them!  
 Exactly!  For every illegal picked up at the jobs slap a big ass fine on the employers.  Once they have to pay so much they might think twice.  Tysons will be out of workers until they decide to pay good wages to citizens

 
How about a little jail time for those knowingly hiring illegals.    Oh but wait that will not happen because of the "undocumented domestics" working in the homes of government officials and in the homes of the CEO's padding their pockets.  

Edited by SC Wrangler 2017-02-15 1:57 PM
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