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| Everyone has their likes or dislikes or they have been brought up with beliefs about certain things or have had an incident in their life that causes them to think in this manner. Like the other post said it may have been their only 'reason' to not purchase. I'm not sure where you are located but every paint horse we've shown and won on has been priced accordingly and they all sold. I don't want to ride anything that isn't a paint and if it isn't colored I don't want it....that's just my preference. As far as papers they become irrelevant if the horse does everything it's supposed to. If the horse is by the greatest mare and stallion and you can't get it to go in the arena and place those papers won't make him go in and perform. I understand resale but most people go on their performance especially if it's a mare, otherwise why breed a mare that isn't any good? Lately I've seen a lot of people buying paints - The right buyer always comes along!
BTW - I have a Dash Ta Fame/ Frenchmans Guy/ Dash for Cash - Bay and white and the color makes her worth way more to me - she is QH bred with all the looks!
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| runfastturnsmooth - 2017-02-11 6:54 PM
streakysox - 2017-02-11 6:38 PM
as i mentioned before, paints just are not selling. Sierrs gets het nice psints from her aunt. Right now her aunt has some very nice horsrs for ssle snd just are not selling
Gets them from her aunt? I thought they owned the broodmares? I know her aunt has paints but they bred them and I don't ever remember her thanking her aunt for the ones she's down good on.
I don't know them well though and I'm not from that area but the ones I was referring to were the ones her dad had trained on the track and they are now broodmares
I think they do have some broodmares but tight knit family and change horses back and forth. Think you missed my point, paints don't sell regardless of quality. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I am starting to see sidepots a lot for the paints. And I heard they pay good at their finals. If I ever get mine going I am definitely checking it out! He is a sold paint. Maybe this will help with the sells of them? |
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | I love both paints and appys but they both have the same stigma against them...people think they are dumb, unathletic and just not nice horses. I think it will change but it's a slow process to get some of the breeding back to where it should be. I think breeding for color really hurt both breeds and the organizations I have heard are not very supportive of non-colored animals. I don't have any experience with that though. |
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| I don't understand the Paint stigma either. AQHA is a joke up in my country when it comes to speed events, most don't even have them. I prefer papered horses but I don't care if its AQHA or APHA.
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Location: Texas | I love paints.. that's all I own. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | stayceem - 2017-02-13 9:14 AM I don't understand the Paint stigma either. AQHA is a joke up in my country when it comes to speed events, most don't even have them. I prefer papered horses but I don't care if its AQHA or APHA. Send her over to me and I will be happy to have her :)
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| streakysox - 2017-02-12 2:06 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2017-02-11 6:54 PM
streakysox - 2017-02-11 6:38 PM
as i mentioned before, paints just are not selling. Sierrs gets het nice psints from her aunt. Right now her aunt has some very nice horsrs for ssle snd just are not selling
Gets them from her aunt? I thought they owned the broodmares? I know her aunt has paints but they bred them and I don't ever remember her thanking her aunt for the ones she's down good on.
I don't know them well though and I'm not from that area but the ones I was referring to were the ones her dad had trained on the track and they are now broodmares
I think they do have some broodmares but tight knit family and change horses back and forth. Think you missed my point, paints don't sell regardless of quality.
I'm not sure where you are selling your paints or not selling them but where I'm from they sell, especially the high quality ones. They also sell for good money! |
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| I've only had one paint but I will say this, he won the pbrip side pot by two or three tenths and placed about mid 2d in the open with the same run. Im not sure why but the competition is just not as stiff in the paint world. |
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| I like her papers. I don't have anything against paints, but I do feel there is a stigma against them. I feel like some breeders focused more on color than conformation. It is a fault in APHA and AQHA. I was going to breed to Texas Six before he died. Spots or no spots - he was nice! can you post a picture or video of your mare? I DO NOT NEED ANOTHER HORSE!! But I like to look!! |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I had a jam up jackpot horse back in 2009 that was for sale for 3 years... Reining awards, multiple jackpot awards, pole horse, head horse, goat horse, anything you ask him to do he would do it. Sliding stops, spins, roping, smokin barrel runs and pole runs. He was great! He and I just didn't mesh well.
He started at $6500. No maint products needed. No ulcers. No lameness. Passed every vet exam with flying colors every single time. Always worked great when people would try him. People raved and praised his conformation and his ability. Big hip, kind eyes, cute face, all things I would hear people say about him when they were looking him over. And then they would back out when I pulled out Paint papers... He was a red dun with a strip, snip, and one white sock on his hind leg. Dam was a TB Paint corss and Dad was TB QTR Cross.
I had him listed as "Papered Red Dun Been-There-Done-That Gelding". I thought 6500 for a 10 year old experienced and well awarded gelding was fair...
Finally sold him in a sale for $600....Only one guy bid on him. Opening bid was $750... They had to go down to $600 just to get someone to buy him... The guy that got him said he was going to use him on his ranch to rope cattle on.... I thought that was the biggest waste of his talent.... But no one wanted him because of his papers. |
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Location: Central Texas | I prefer paints. They have so many more incentives than aqha. I had someone tell me "paints can't run". I just laughed and ignore them. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | WinningPaints - 2017-02-13 11:36 AM I prefer paints. They have so many more incentives than aqha. I had someone tell me "paints can't run". I just laughed and ignore them.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | When a horse is running in the 1-D it doesn't matter what color or what registry he/she is, you will get the money he/she is worth. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | You should try selling something with ApHC papers.... Solid color, put together perfect/pretty, all familiar bloodlines as he's 7/8 or so QH, quick, working good, proven siblings, cheap..."but he's got app papers". I'm tempted to advertise him without papers (maybe even for more money)--I bet he'd sell in a heartbeat. It's irritating >:(
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Location: Idaho | moeman17 - 2017-02-12 3:46 PM
People, please help me better understand what that means. I have one for sale and had someone come out and try her, loved everything about her till it came to her paper's.Am i behind on understanding bloodlines? So i need your help to find the junk in her pedigree.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/six+by+six
Horrible bloodlines... you should just send her to me so you don't have to deal with all that!! 
Because you know.. who wouldn't want a Texas Hero, Streakin Six and Dash for Cash on their papers??I love those lines, one day I will have a Streakin Six in my barn!! Just hasn't been in the cards lately. Just keep moving forward, those people passed up on what sounds like to be a nice horse. Everything happens for a reason, You probably didn't want them buying her anyway. |
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| Nevertooold - 2017-02-13 11:41 AM
When a horse is running in the 1-D it doesn't matter what color or what registry he/she is, you will get the money he/she is worth.
Voice of reason!!
When it clocks people don't care if it is purple with pink spots they will lay that money down. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I have this guy for sale been for sale for a while bred pretty while I think but I cant get no hits on him.. He is pretty working a great pattern husbnad has started riding him t hrough the pastures checking heifers on him.. But I get teh same excuses he is a paint and has to much white...
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/jungle+paint
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | OMG! I LOVE her lines!  I think she just needs to come to my house.
I am hoping next year to breed for my Streakin Six.
There are so many horses out there that are paints and people just don't know it. If you like the horse and it does what you want...Papers are paper.
I know for resale it can get tricky.
Don't feel bad; your mare has very nice lines. |
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