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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it. I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold.
Where is this mill at? You must be really close to this mill to beable to see the hay they haul in to make their pellets, I would like to call Standlee and see what they have to say. Since I'm new to their products I sure want to make sure its what they say it is. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sandok - 2017-03-07 8:28 AM I use the Bluebonnet alfalfa pellets. They are smaller, softer and I have had no issues with them and the horses really like them.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-07 8:23 AM ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it. I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold. Where is this mill at? You must be really close to this mill to beable to see the hay they haul in to make their pellets, I would like to call Standlee and see what they have to say. Since I'm new to their products I sure want to make sure its what they say it is.
The only mill I know of owned by standlee is just south of Twin Falls Idaho. I've been by it several times and I never noticed "bad" hay. Do they have another mill out by you guys ThreeCorners??
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2017-03-07 8:59 AM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-07 8:23 AM ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it. I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold. Where is this mill at? You must be really close to this mill to beable to see the hay they haul in to make their pellets, I would like to call Standlee and see what they have to say. Since I'm new to their products I sure want to make sure its what they say it is.
I've been looking on their website and saw that they have their mill in Eden Idaho where they make their products, but thats the only mill that came up that I can see, found their Facebook and it looks really nice and very informative.. I like what I'm seeing so far, but like what Three Corners was saying about their hay spooks me, so trying to cover all my thoughts here. So I wanted make sure where this mill is at that ThreeCorners spoke of befor I said anything befor I called are email Standlee.. I want to check to see how many mills are out there, lol.. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2017-03-07 8:59 AM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-07 8:23 AM ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it. I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold. Where is this mill at? You must be really close to this mill to beable to see the hay they haul in to make their pellets, I would like to call Standlee and see what they have to say. Since I'm new to their products I sure want to make sure its what they say it is.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-07 8:49 AM
Sandok - 2017-03-07 8:28 AM I use the Bluebonnet alfalfa pellets. They are smaller, softer and I have had no issues with them and the horses really like them.
Are talking about the Performance Plus & Complete?
It's gotta be, I think thats the only one they make. I don't need all the ground corn, rice hulls, and ground oats. I just want either alfalfa or Bermuda, straight pellets with no fillers. Looking at the ametza ones they have tons of fillers, maybe they didn't mix it well enough and that's what the black pellets are.
And I don't have a blue bonnet dealer anywhere near me at the moment. :( |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | WiscoRacer - 2017-03-07 10:10 AM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-07 8:49 AM Sandok - 2017-03-07 8:28 AM I use the Bluebonnet alfalfa pellets. They are smaller, softer and I have had no issues with them and the horses really like them. Are talking about the Performance Plus & Complete? It's gotta be, I think thats the only one they make. I don't need all the ground corn, rice hulls, and ground oats. I just want either alfalfa or Bermuda, straight pellets with no fillers. Looking at the ametza ones they have tons of fillers, maybe they didn't mix it well enough and that's what the black pellets are. And I don't have a blue bonnet dealer anywhere near me at the moment. : (
Thats the only Alfalfa pelleted feed they have I love Bluebonnets feed and its all I feed is Bluebonnet, but this alfalfa feed is a complete feed with all the vitamins and minerals added to it and its a larger pellet {5/16} and it dont have any binding either, I have been using it too but have been wanting a all alfalfa pellets and this feed is not, so been looking and decided to give Standlee a try and loved the fact its all alfalfa NO binders and its a smaller pellet. Performance Plus and Complete is a great product but I just wanted a all Alfalfa feed .  |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it. I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold.
I quit feeding Standlee cubes last fall after getting a 2nd batch of moldy stinky gross bags. 2 different stores in different towns, bags were not damaged. |
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| I will have to look at my bag of alfalfa pellets tonight as I didn't think it was the Performance. The ones I have been getting from Bluebonnet is a smaller pellet so will have to look at the bag. |
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Location: West Texas | I have no idea what it is. Generally, all cubes, pellets, or any feed for that matter will have pieces of things getting into the feed. It could be a number of things, maybe some plastic that was baled into the hay or something similar to that scenario. There are a lot of choices for pellets out there. Generally, most pelleting mills use hay that isn't fit for sale as hay itself. Cubes are generally higher in quality, although some cubes are grinder hay and a few pelleting mills might use horse quality hay, although I feel the latter to be very rare. I don't personally know about Standlee, so I am not commenting one way or the other. I have fed their pellets and they usually look to be high quality.
On a side note, Danco Forage is introducing a super premium pellet to the market soon. It is minimal 17% protein with actual protein being more around 19-20%. This will use only premium hay and will also contain more nutrition than other pellets. It is designed as an high energy, nutrient dense, partial forage, or partial concentrate replacement. The reason it is so potent and nutrient dense is that it is a dehy pellet. This means it is not dried in the field, losing energy and nutrients from the air and sun. It is cut and taken to a dehydrator to be quickly dried and then pelleted, with minimal nutrient loss.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2017-03-07 10:57 AM ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it. I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold. I quit feeding Standlee cubes last fall after getting a 2nd batch of moldy stinky gross bags. 2 different stores in different towns, bags were not damaged.
I had problems with their baled Alfalfa and quit feeding it. The dust in them is beyond ridiculous. They told me it was from the process of compressing them. I had fed other compressed Alfalfa bales in the past and never had that problem. |
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| Tdove - 2017-03-07 11:20 AM
I have no idea what it is. Generally, all cubes, pellets, or any feed for that matter will have pieces of things getting into the feed. It could be a number of things, maybe some plastic that was baled into the hay or something similar to that scenario. There are a lot of choices for pellets out there. Generally, most pelleting mills use hay that isn't fit for sale as hay itself. Cubes are generally higher in quality, although some cubes are grinder hay and a few pelleting mills might use unspoiled hay, although I feel the latter to be very rare. I don't personally know about Standlee, so I am not commenting one way or the other. I have fed their pellets and they usually look to be high quality.
On a side note, Danco Forage is introducing a super premium pellet to the market soon. It is minimal 17% protein with actual protein being more around 19-20%. This will use only premium hay and will also contain more nutrition than other pellets. It is designed as an high energy, nutrient dense, partial forage, or partial concentrate replacement. The reason it is so potent and nutrient dense is that it is a dehy pellet. This means it is not dried in the field, losing energy and nutrients from the air and sun. It is cut and taken to a dehydrator to be quickly dried and then pelleted, with minimal nutrient loss.
Will it be a straight alfalfa pellet, or more like an Omni pellet?
Danco doesn't use GMO alfalfa do they? I know that there is not alot of proof out there concerning GMO vs. non-GMO, but I like to stay away from as much GMO as I can, just my personal preference. |
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Location: MN | WiscoRacer - 2017-03-06 8:36 PM Just picked up a bag of Ametza Bermuda/Alfalfa pellets and found these super hard black pellets in it. Thought it could be molasses but I literally had to take a branch cutters to cut them in half. And don't judge me but I did taste one and they're not sweet at all and won't dissolve. Any ideas?? Or any suggestions for a pellet I can get in AZ that's good quality? Not a fan of standlee.
I had this problem when I fed Standlee pellets too... |
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Location: Arizona | Whiteboy - 2017-03-08 7:59 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-07 8:23 AM ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it. I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold. Where is this mill at? You must be really close to this mill to beable to see the hay they haul in to make their pellets, I would like to call Standlee and see what they have to say. Since I'm new to their products I sure want to make sure its what they say it is.
This was my understanding as well, I used to live just north of some of their hay fields in Idaho and never saw anything amiss. But maybe they have fields and/or mills elsewhere now? |
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| Tdove - 2017-03-07 11:20 AM
I have no idea what it is. Generally, all cubes, pellets, or any feed for that matter will have pieces of things getting into the feed. It could be a number of things, maybe some plastic that was baled into the hay or something similar to that scenario. There are a lot of choices for pellets out there. Generally, most pelleting mills use hay that isn't fit for sale as hay itself. Cubes are generally higher in quality, although some cubes are grinder hay and a few pelleting mills might use horse quality hay, although I feel the latter to be very rare. I don't personally know about Standlee, so I am not commenting one way or the other. I have fed their pellets and they usually look to be high quality.
On a side note, Danco Forage is introducing a super premium pellet to the market soon. It is minimal 17% protein with actual protein being more around 19-20%. This will use only premium hay and will also contain more nutrition than other pellets. It is designed as an high energy, nutrient dense, partial forage, or partial concentrate replacement. The reason it is so potent and nutrient dense is that it is a dehy pellet. This means it is not dried in the field, losing energy and nutrients from the air and sun. It is cut and taken to a dehydrator to be quickly dried and then pelleted, with minimal nutrient loss.
This sounds intriguing! I'm also interested if it's going to be a straight alfalfa pellet.
On another note, I took the bag back to tractor supply and one of the employees walks in and goes "ANOTHER moldy bag of feed?"
Which I'm sure it wasn't mold, they smelled okay still, but the fact that that's the first thing she says. Need to find a better place to get quality feed. |
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Location: In the back forty | WiscoRacer - 2017-03-06 7:36 PM Just picked up a bag of Ametza Bermuda/Alfalfa pellets and found these super hard black pellets in it. Thought it could be molasses but I literally had to take a branch cutters to cut them in half. And don't judge me but I did taste one and they're not sweet at all and won't dissolve. Any ideas?? Or any suggestions for a pellet I can get in AZ that's good quality? Not a fan of standlee.
It kind of looks like cottonseed cake/pellets to me |
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Location: West Texas | GLP - 2017-03-07 11:45 AM
Tdove - 2017-03-07 11:20 AM
I have no idea what it is. Generally, all cubes, pellets, or any feed for that matter will have pieces of things getting into the feed. It could be a number of things, maybe some plastic that was baled into the hay or something similar to that scenario. There are a lot of choices for pellets out there. Generally, most pelleting mills use hay that isn't fit for sale as hay itself. Cubes are generally higher in quality, although some cubes are grinder hay and a few pelleting mills might use unspoiled hay, although I feel the latter to be very rare. I don't personally know about Standlee, so I am not commenting one way or the other. I have fed their pellets and they usually look to be high quality.
On a side note, Danco Forage is introducing a super premium pellet to the market soon. It is minimal 17% protein with actual protein being more around 19-20%. This will use only premium hay and will also contain more nutrition than other pellets. It is designed as an high energy, nutrient dense, partial forage, or partial concentrate replacement. The reason it is so potent and nutrient dense is that it is a dehy pellet. This means it is not dried in the field, losing energy and nutrients from the air and sun. It is cut and taken to a dehydrator to be quickly dried and then pelleted, with minimal nutrient loss.
Will it be a straight alfalfa pellet, or more like an Omni pellet?
Danco doesn't use GMO alfalfa do they? I know that there is not alot of proof out there concerning GMO vs. non-GMO, but I like to stay away from as much GMO as I can, just my personal preference.
Yes, the alfalfa used is not grown from genetically modified seeds and an all alfalfa pellet. The name for them will be AlfaLux
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GLP - 2017-03-07 11:45 AM
Tdove - 2017-03-07 11:20 AM
I have no idea what it is. Generally, all cubes, pellets, or any feed for that matter will have pieces of things getting into the feed. It could be a number of things, maybe some plastic that was baled into the hay or something similar to that scenario. There are a lot of choices for pellets out there. Generally, most pelleting mills use hay that isn't fit for sale as hay itself. Cubes are generally higher in quality, although some cubes are grinder hay and a few pelleting mills might use unspoiled hay, although I feel the latter to be very rare. I don't personally know about Standlee, so I am not commenting one way or the other. I have fed their pellets and they usually look to be high quality.
On a side note, Danco Forage is introducing a super premium pellet to the market soon. It is minimal 17% protein with actual protein being more around 19-20%. This will use only premium hay and will also contain more nutrition than other pellets. It is designed as an high energy, nutrient dense, partial forage, or partial concentrate replacement. The reason it is so potent and nutrient dense is that it is a dehy pellet. This means it is not dried in the field, losing energy and nutrients from the air and sun. It is cut and taken to a dehydrator to be quickly dried and then pelleted, with minimal nutrient loss.
Will it be a straight alfalfa pellet, or more like an Omni pellet?
Danco doesn't use GMO alfalfa do they? I know that there is not alot of proof out there concerning GMO vs. non-GMO, but I like to stay away from as much GMO as I can, just my personal preference.
Yes, the alfalfa used are not grown from genetically modified seeds and an all alfalfa pellet. The name for them will be AlfaLux
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sandok - 2017-03-07 11:14 AM I will have to look at my bag of alfalfa pellets tonight as I didn't think it was the Performance. The ones I have been getting from Bluebonnet is a smaller pellet so will have to look at the bag.
That would be great, if they are selling pure alfalfa pellets I would like to know, I would rather buy my alfalfa from a bluebonnet dealer if thats possible, |
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