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Location: Saskatchewan | ^^ Thanks!
I know I just have to get out of her way and let her do it, but it's so hard to break the habit of baby sitting. I'm going to exhibition or just haul to a new arena and treat it as a jackpot a couple times so I don't have to worry about time, and just practice finding the right spot on the second barrel for her.
Are my reins too long all the time? Cause when I breezed her through in a snaffle I was using split reins, lol. |
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| Look at the riders on these two horses. The young lady on the bay bought the horse trained. The girl that sold the horse works with her weekly so that she rides the horse the same way every run. Will post several videos so watch her hands. The young lady is currently standing second in her region in college rodeo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRqg2OlFbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADlxrR9Qbc
This is a different horse but watch the rider. She rides the same way every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQahg8qIDDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXC_xD8HNLw
Both of these are young horses. Both are in the top 5 or 6 in horses the 1D running against 500 to 700 horses. Also, notice there is no wasted motion in any of the turns. Both are super nice horses.
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Location: North Dakota | QHriderKE - 2017-04-20 10:33 AM ^^ Thanks! I know I just have to get out of her way and let her do it, but it's so hard to break the habit of baby sitting. I'm going to exhibition or just haul to a new arena and treat it as a jackpot a couple times so I don't have to worry about time, and just practice finding the right spot on the second barrel for her. Are my reins too long all the time? Cause when I breezed her through in a snaffle I was using split reins, lol.
Watching this run
https://youtu.be/N-i0CUrvzhg
Your reins are way too long. Look at how out in space your hand goes.
Ideally, your hand should be staying near or around your saddle horn. Again, you are just GUIDING your horse. You should be making smooth quiet cues. Right now, you are moving your hand way too much.
For example, with the video in question, watch as you approach your 2nd barrel. Granted, you had to "fix" coming out wide from your first, but you have your inside hand on the opposite side of her neck trying to hold her off the 2nd barrel (instead, use that inside LEG ... not your hands). Crossing your inside hand over the neck often will make them dive that shoulder in. Then, when you get to the barrel, you are yanking your hand very suddenly to turn her, and moving your hand from the opposite side of her neck to WAY out to your left very quickly. That's what makes that turn so choppy and she's bouncing all over the place.
Also, watch your body position. You tend to lean alot.
Your best body position is actually on the first barrel, as far as you sitting nicely (you just sat way too late......) and staying fairly quiet with your body around the first. You don't lean very much on your first barrel, but are leaning foward and inside on your 2nd and 3rd. Stay centered.
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Great examples. OP, look at where this rider is keeping her hands (quiet and low). That's what you should work toward. And yes, shorten your reins!! |
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Location: Alberta | Not sure how far you are from Ponoka, Alberta...as I see you're in SK. Charmayne James is coming there in May and I believe are looking for more participants. Look on the Everything Barrel Racing Alberta Facebook Page. |
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I know that duo! :) He is special but so is the jockey and trainer. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | This thread is like DaJaVu,, LOL...
A good clinic to help you, your horse seems to be doing good, but to me its all about timing and hand placement.. I remember when all this was discussed once befor. 
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Location: Tex. Panhandle | I will say that a good clinic can be worth every penny! I was recently able to attend 1 with 3 NFR qualifiers and it really helped me fix my riding. Now they didnt really go over anything I wasnt aware of..... but I def wasnt doing what I needed to in my riding (both running and dry work). Fixing a few things has made a world of difference. My horses are working so much better and I'm riding so much more confidently! My horses are young experience wise so my confidence is really helping them step up. Excited to enter and see where we are. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help. |
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| RnRJack - 2017-04-20 4:34 PM Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help.
Even the best in my area who win everything and train their own take horses to my trainer to work out any kinks. I agree it is worth every penny.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | rodeomom3 - 2017-04-20 4:52 PM
RnRJack - 2017-04-20 4:34 PM Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help.
Even the best in my area who win everything and train their own take horses to my trainer to work out any kinks. I agree it is worth every penny.
Exactly!! Even my trainers bump ideas off of each other because they ride and train very differently! One thIng I've been blessed to learn is how to ride and train the different styles, it's not easy running 2-3 different turning styles/running styles etc! I often over ride my open horses because I'm in "training" mode lol |
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| RnRJack - 2017-04-20 5:29 PM
rodeomom3 - 2017-04-20 4:52 PM
RnRJack - 2017-04-20 4:34 PM Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help.
Even the best in my area who win everything and train their own take horses to my trainer to work out any kinks. I agree it is worth every penny.
Exactly!! Even my trainers bump ideas off of each other because they ride and train very differently! One thIng I've been blessed to learn is how to ride and train the different styles, it's not easy running 2-3 different turning styles/running styles etc! I often over ride my open horses because I'm in "training" mode lol
I have trained my own horses for 50 + years. I learned 40 years ago to get help when you need it. The buckskin horse in the videos is my horse. She lives at the trainer's. Her little sister is my ride. Same person trained her. Makes life so much easier |
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Location: North Dakota | rodeomom3 - 2017-04-20 4:52 PM RnRJack - 2017-04-20 4:34 PM Good news is, you have a lot to clean up in your turns which will probably put you where you want to be, bad news is (not that it's bad news) like said above you need to find someone to help you get there that has the experience!!!! I train my own horses but I also train with two professionals every week and each time I go I learn something new!! You can never stop learning or improving if you allow yourself to do so! I see so many people stuck in their ways and are to humble to ask for help. Even the best in my area who win everything and train their own take horses to my trainer to work out any kinks. I agree it is worth every penny.
I agree!
I routinely go ride with a reining trainer in my area. He knows how to get a horse using it's body correctly and it has been very beneficial for our barrel racing!
And pumped I get to go to both a Ryan Lovendahl clinic and a Jolene Montgomery clinic this summer!
You never stop learning.
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Location: Saskatchewan | My video person messed up, but here's the last half of my run today. Had a little bauble coming into 2nd, but got it wrapped up nice and... snug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jlMr7Yquo
Still waiting to find out where our time put us. MAN does this mare love to RUN! |
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Location: Saskatchewan | Results are up and we got 5th in the 2D with that run, making it the 12th fastest time of the day. Once we get smoother turns figured out, the 1D is in sight! |
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Location: Arkansas | QHriderKE - 2017-04-30 10:08 AM
Results are up and we got 5th in the 2D with that run, making it the 12th fastest time of the day. Once we get smoother turns figured out, the 1D is in sight!
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Location: Saskatchewan | I know the video is awful, but you can see that she came off of second a lot nicer than before. I looked at a flag on the fence right behind the barrel and rode to it. Had a much straighter line between second and third! Also, ran her in a three-piece snaffle that day too. I'm excited! |
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Location: Saskatchewan | Actually, now that the final results came in, we were 8th fastest of the day (5th in 2D) and rolled our time over to the second jp for 9th fastest(6th in 2D).
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Location: Lewisburg, Tennessee | cow pie - 2017-04-19 4:39 PM Apply square in slow work. Not round. Don't ask,let us know if the light bulb turns on. Good luck.
HA! This made me laugh out loud - I totally get what you're saying but it took me having Connie Combs hand-walk a horse around a barrel before my "light bulb" went off. Good advice! |
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Location: Saskatchewan | I think I need to breeze her a little more, get some "air" in her.
This also landed us in the 2D with lots of room for improvement. Once I move my horse here with me I'm going to be on the hunt for a clinic or even someone I can just pay to ride with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJFr9eK8ZCw
Blowing first here was all my fault, didn't rate her enough dangit!! It's hard to get used to such a big pen and a horse that just wants to run all over it haha!
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