cranky B4 10am - 2017-05-15 9:22 PM


I agree to a point. I've been reading all the comments on the link I posted and there are still a lot of them that believe Nutrena is not guilty... 
Comments like "They've been feeding it for years...." And "don't believe everything you read on the net..." etc... As long as people keep drinking the coolaid, these big mills keep doing what they are doing... which is line their pockets.... 
I just feel for the horses, they are the ones suffering!

Chandler's Mom - 2017-05-15 10:08 PM The place we were buying our feed was going out of business; we were driving 45 min one way for feed. The next town that carried it was almost an hour and a half away. (I know a lot of y'all drive even further than that--sad we can't get good feed closer.) Anyway, the feed store in our town sells Nutrena, and the owner is a client of mine so I obviously wanted to do business with him. I asked if he could get my feed, he did some checking, and came back with the question as to why I didn't use Nutrena. Such a great feed, everyone in town used it (even folks who had owned horses for years, etc). I told him I'd had a bad experience, might not even have been the feed, but at my old horse's age I wasn't chancing it. He just kept on and on, giving me names of local horse people who used it and just couldn't understand why I wouldn't use it. Finally, I told him I appreciated his trying to help me, but there was nothing he could say or do that was changing my mind. So now we trade off with two other folks taking turns going to Monroe LA to pick up for all of us. It just isn't a chance I'll take with my horses.

Kay-DRacing. - 2017-05-16 12:31 PM So...would anyone be concerned about feeding Nutrina triple cleaned race horse oats?! 

cranky B4 10am - 2017-05-16 12:44 PM I wouldn't give a dime to them anymore after the way they deflect and "handle" these cases. JMHO 

FLITASTIC - 2017-05-16 2:30 PM I have found big chunks of mold in Nutrena senior years ago. I contacted the company and they told me I had let moisture in ( Nope, it was july and I live 5 minutes from where I bought it). I took pictures to send in... They looked at pictures and it was moldy, but the part that was moldy was a larger cattle pellet from a nutrena cattle product. Good thing was, I saw it before I fed any as I was dumping the bag into my feed bin...

cranky B4 10am - 2017-05-16 7:10 AM Well, I am guessing that is one of the reasons people stick their head in the sand about this... Nutrena is readily available and compared to some other feeds pretty cheap...

And I agree, my horses are not something I want to take a gamble on. They are accident prone enough as it is....

 

JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-05-16 4:59 PM You have potential for any feed brand to be compromised in some way. I've fed Purina, Nutrena, several brands of oats, Total Equine, and several more. Some brands you'll have contamination issues, some you'll have moisture issues, bugs, etc. The oats I got always had tons of bugs in them, no matter which brands. The Ultium I used to feed was always old at the stores I purchased them from. Sometimes the Nutrena would be old. I've learned to always check the bags for a date. I've spoken with reps from Nutrena and Purina about the shelf life of the feeds I've used. I currently feed the ProForce Fuel line and the rep told me not to feed it if the date is 3 months or older. Dealers are not required to remove it from the shelf, they will sell it as old. My dealer only stocks as many as he knows his usual customers will purchase and my feed is always manufactured the month I buy it. The one I had the worst luck with was the TE though, it was often moldy. Unsafe feed from a mill that doesn't manufacture other livestock feed, so you'd think it was safe right? No. Sometimes it's also the dealer that contaminates the feed. A couple years ago I knew someone who's horse was poisoned from a chemical in the Strategy. Luckily this was before the time where everything was blown up so quickly by social media because I know 99% would have done to Purina, exactly what we've done to Nutrena. And in the end it was the dealers fault, an employee had heard and admitted to having spilled a jug of antifreeze on several bags, which soaked into the bags through the seams on the ends. Had nothing to do with Purina at all. I'm not saying this is every case, but sometimes there are outside factors. Nothing is 100% safe. I continue to feed Nutrena and am ok with it. We hold these feed companies up to such high standards, saying only 100% purity is acceptable but then we shovel food into our own mouths with chemicals that could eventually kill us as well. How many brands of food do we all still continue to eat even after they've been recalled for potentially life threatening contaminations. Not trying to be an ***hole, but if you demand purity for you horses but you'll feed your kid processed foods, then you're now holding your horse's life to a higher standard than your own kid. There's big name people who still proudly endorse the ADM feeds and they've had far more issues than Nutrena has had lately. Nutrena is offering coupons because they've taken a big hit in sales due to the accusations that we will probably never know the true story behind. You're at risk no matter what you feed, grain or hay. I almost lost mine to Potomac over a dead mayfly in a flake of hay once, I still feed hay from the same place.

rodeomom3 - 2017-05-16 6:09 PM  Agree with three4luck.   There are some valid analogies in your post and some not so valid.  We as humans eat  a variety of foods, much of it can case  long term health issues, they are issues though that can be reversed with a change of diet, not so with inophore contamination. Horses on grain don't eat a wide variety, those on grain eat one source and I don't think it is too much to ask that the one food source of grain come from a trusted manufacturer.   How Nutrena has handled this is very telling.   Monosin present but not in enough amounts to cause illness, obviously this is acceptable to them.   The reports are online, we do know the story.  The story I know is that Nutrena finds "trace" amounts of contamination acceptable, I don't.  Whether these trace amounts killed these horses may yet to be determined but I sure would not gamble with my horses.   This is not a new issue, Nutrena has had decades to improve. Not to long ago a different feed producer came on here and addressed an issue someone had with what they found in a bag.  He did not say " it happens", he apologized and said heads were going to roll because someone did not follow procedure, no excuses, it may  just be PR but good PR goes a long way.   Yes, big names still endorse them, I understand being loyal to your sponsor,  but in no way does that have anything to do with the credibility of Nutrena, most have never been to a Nutrena mill.  Yes, blister beetles, other bugs can cause illness but that is different than  processing grain in a controlled environment.    It comes down to dollars, Nutrena does not want to change their mills or how they process the grains. 

Nevertooold - 2017-05-16 7:19 PM

Nutrena did real well for Triple Crown when they started to mill their feed..