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Location: Somewhere around here | rodeomom3 - 2017-06-15 5:48 AM
Are there any therapeutic riding associations in your area or barns looking for safe sweet trail horses??
I agree.If he's a sweet horse (to people at least lol) then I'd try to give him away to a family that is looking for a kid-safe horse; aka me hahaha kidding.
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Bear in mind that this is NOT your horse...she still claims ownership. If you have it put down or otherwise dispose of it (sell or give away)...she could claim she never told you to do that...and just imagine the DRAMA she could cause then.
Haul it to her...leave it there...and go home.
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| TrailGirl - 2017-06-15 7:52 AM
Bear in mind that this is NOT your horse...she still claims ownership. If you have it put down or otherwise dispose of it (sell or give away)...she could claim she never told you to do that...and just imagine the DRAMA she could cause then.
Haul it to her...leave it there...and go home.
Alternative...get something in writing...notarized...from her giving ownership of the horse to you. Before you do anything.
This is what I'm afraid of. She finally had her daughter call us back... she will come get the horse and have him put down. Of course my step daughter is hysterical at this point. She called again last night crying and said mom will pay you guys $100 a month if you keep him. Wow! I told my husband if she will give us the papers and sign a bill of sale to us for the horse, he can stay. The whole not giving us the papers but wanting to sign something saying she won't sell him makes my blood boil. If she agrees to release his papers and give up any ownership of him, I'm willing to keep him here and continue his care and possibly see if there are any treatments for his ankle. My heart is breaking for my stepdaughter at this point and I feel bad for the horse. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | want2chase3 - 2017-06-15 10:02 AM TrailGirl - 2017-06-15 7:52 AM Bear in mind that this is NOT your horse...she still claims ownership. If you have it put down or otherwise dispose of it (sell or give away)...she could claim she never told you to do that...and just imagine the DRAMA she could cause then. Haul it to her...leave it there...and go home. Alternative...get something in writing...notarized...from her giving ownership of the horse to you. Before you do anything. This is what I'm afraid of. She finally had her daughter call us back... she will come get the horse and have him put down. Of course my step daughter is hysterical at this point. She called again last night crying and said mom will pay you guys $100 a month if you keep him. Wow! I told my husband if she will give us the papers and sign a bill of sale to us for the horse, he can stay. The whole not giving us the papers but wanting to sign something saying she won't sell him makes my blood boil. If she agrees to release his papers and give up any ownership of him, I'm willing to keep him here and continue his care and possibly see if there are any treatments for his ankle. My heart is breaking for my stepdaughter at this point and I feel bad for the horse.
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want2chase3 - 2017-06-15 10:02 AM TrailGirl - 2017-06-15 7:52 AM Bear in mind that this is NOT your horse...she still claims ownership. If you have it put down or otherwise dispose of it (sell or give away)...she could claim she never told you to do that...and just imagine the DRAMA she could cause then. Haul it to her...leave it there...and go home. Alternative...get something in writing...notarized...from her giving ownership of the horse to you. Before you do anything. This is what I'm afraid of. She finally had her daughter call us back... she will come get the horse and have him put down. Of course my step daughter is hysterical at this point. She called again last night crying and said mom will pay you guys $100 a month if you keep him. Wow! I told my husband if she will give us the papers and sign a bill of sale to us for the horse, he can stay. The whole not giving us the papers but wanting to sign something saying she won't sell him makes my blood boil. If she agrees to release his papers and give up any ownership of him, I'm willing to keep him here and continue his care and possibly see if there are any treatments for his ankle. My heart is breaking for my stepdaughter at this point and I feel bad for the horse. Edit to add, I dont think this horse deserves to be put down if hes got a chance to make someone happy.
I don't think he needs to be put down either. He's happy just to be with my horses and knowing he's getting a few meals a day. I don't see any reason why she wouldn't sign a transfer but who knows... might not, just to be spiteful. I'm trying for my stepdaughter and for the horse. I'm waiting for the phone call. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | want2chase3 - 2017-06-15 10:55 AM Southtxponygirl - 2017-06-15 10:36 AM want2chase3 - 2017-06-15 10:02 AM TrailGirl - 2017-06-15 7:52 AM Bear in mind that this is NOT your horse...she still claims ownership. If you have it put down or otherwise dispose of it (sell or give away)...she could claim she never told you to do that...and just imagine the DRAMA she could cause then. Haul it to her...leave it there...and go home. Alternative...get something in writing...notarized...from her giving ownership of the horse to you. Before you do anything. This is what I'm afraid of. She finally had her daughter call us back... she will come get the horse and have him put down. Of course my step daughter is hysterical at this point. She called again last night crying and said mom will pay you guys $100 a month if you keep him. Wow! I told my husband if she will give us the papers and sign a bill of sale to us for the horse, he can stay. The whole not giving us the papers but wanting to sign something saying she won't sell him makes my blood boil. If she agrees to release his papers and give up any ownership of him, I'm willing to keep him here and continue his care and possibly see if there are any treatments for his ankle. My heart is breaking for my stepdaughter at this point and I feel bad for the horse. Edit to add, I dont think this horse deserves to be put down if hes got a chance to make someone happy. I don't think he needs to be put down either. He's happy just to be with my horses and knowing he's getting a few meals a day. I don't see any reason why she wouldn't sign a transfer but who knows... might not, just to be spiteful. I'm trying for my stepdaughter and for the horse. I'm waiting for the phone call.
You sound like a really sweet lady to be having to be putting up with someones cra* and pettiness. I hope it all works out for this poor horse he sounds like he deserves a chance to make someone a happy owner. | |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | GLP - 2017-06-15 11:00 AM I just don't understand her not wanting to sign the papers over to you. People are so weird. Good luck and prayers she does the decent thing- sign the papers over to you so the step daughter's little heart doesn't break.
I think the birth mom was trying to make the step mom look bad and be the bad guy but instead it blew up in her face. I think she's recalculating her plan.
Karma always wins with spiteful people.
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | want2chase3 - 2017-06-14 2:24 PM
Kinda long but the whole scenario needs to be known. About 4 months ago we let my husband's ex bring a horse to our house (for their daughter, pretty much) when she brought the horse, he was grossly underweight and injured.. not sure what happened to his leg but it was very swollen in the ankle. She said she had it x rayed but the vet said it needed that an mri done to see what was going on. She said her sister took the horse to get the mri done apparently they had a falling out and the mri results aren't available. Sounds fishy, but whatever.. she also said if we decided we couldn't keep him, she'd take him back no problem.. it didn't matter to her, I quote! I started feeding him up, worming , getting feet fixed, got a bunch of swelling out by poultice and cold hosing... step daughter was coming over daily to help clean stalls, water, feed, etc etc... then she started coming less and less frequently... she said it was costing her too much in gas to come over everyday. They live maybe 6 minutes from us, if that. The horse isn't sound... it's obvious where he's off..we decided we couldn't afford to take him for extensive x rays, mri whatnot... plus this ex refused to give us his papers... I actually had a friend who wanted him and would take him to the vet for whatever he needed and see if he could actually be fixed... ex refused to let the horse go unless this friend would pay $1000. My friend backed out... I don't blame her either!
Then the ex told my husband we can't have papers but she'd sign something saying she wouldn't sell him if he stayed with us. So fast forward... for the last month or so, step daughter hasn't even looked at the horse or come over to see him or ride him, he's rideable but very light and walking only... all his care has fallen on me, plus he's gotten aggressive with my daughters good colt that we just got back, kicking, biting and jumping on him. I have 1 medium sized pasture and I have 3 stall barn. I have 3 other horses, that our OURS. I'm having to stall horses up to keep the peace because of this horse.
So today, my husband made the call to the ex and said we are loading up the horse and bringing him back to you, we can't keep him here anymore. .. her answer was no... just put him down, she can't afford him anymore. Of course my step daughter is just hysterical... honestly we can't afford him as a pasture pet... every horse we have earns their keep... our pasture right now is good but it won't last much longer.. I don't even know what I've spent on getting him healthy again, minus the leg... my farrier says it's not fixable a few other people I respect say the same.. he's always going to be gimpy on it. I'm so angry right about the situation and her just saying put him down.. I'm trying not to lose my Jesus!
This is gonna sound harsh, but if no one around you will take the horse as a grade pasture pet to maybe lead the kids around on. Then I'd haul him to a sale barn and sell him as grade to get a small part of your money back. But you know he's gonna more than likely end up on a meat truck. | |
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| Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2017-06-15 11:31 AM
want2chase3 - 2017-06-14 2:24 PM
Kinda long but the whole scenario needs to be known. About 4 months ago we let my husband's ex bring a horse to our house (for their daughter, pretty much) when she brought the horse, he was grossly underweight and injured.. not sure what happened to his leg but it was very swollen in the ankle. She said she had it x rayed but the vet said it needed that an mri done to see what was going on. She said her sister took the horse to get the mri done apparently they had a falling out and the mri results aren't available. Sounds fishy, but whatever.. she also said if we decided we couldn't keep him, she'd take him back no problem.. it didn't matter to her, I quote! I started feeding him up, worming , getting feet fixed, got a bunch of swelling out by poultice and cold hosing... step daughter was coming over daily to help clean stalls, water, feed, etc etc... then she started coming less and less frequently... she said it was costing her too much in gas to come over everyday. They live maybe 6 minutes from us, if that. The horse isn't sound... it's obvious where he's off..we decided we couldn't afford to take him for extensive x rays, mri whatnot... plus this ex refused to give us his papers... I actually had a friend who wanted him and would take him to the vet for whatever he needed and see if he could actually be fixed... ex refused to let the horse go unless this friend would pay $1000. My friend backed out... I don't blame her either!
Then the ex told my husband we can't have papers but she'd sign something saying she wouldn't sell him if he stayed with us. So fast forward... for the last month or so, step daughter hasn't even looked at the horse or come over to see him or ride him, he's rideable but very light and walking only... all his care has fallen on me, plus he's gotten aggressive with my daughters good colt that we just got back, kicking, biting and jumping on him. I have 1 medium sized pasture and I have 3 stall barn. I have 3 other horses, that our OURS. I'm having to stall horses up to keep the peace because of this horse.
So today, my husband made the call to the ex and said we are loading up the horse and bringing him back to you, we can't keep him here anymore. .. her answer was no... just put him down, she can't afford him anymore. Of course my step daughter is just hysterical... honestly we can't afford him as a pasture pet... every horse we have earns their keep... our pasture right now is good but it won't last much longer.. I don't even know what I've spent on getting him healthy again, minus the leg... my farrier says it's not fixable a few other people I respect say the same.. he's always going to be gimpy on it. I'm so angry right about the situation and her just saying put him down.. I'm trying not to lose my Jesus!
This is gonna sound harsh, but if no one around you will take the horse as a grade pasture pet to maybe lead the kids around on. Then I'd haul him to a sale barn and sell him as grade to get a small part of your money back. But you know he's gonna more than likely end up on a meat truck.
if you take one to the sale, be sure you are ok with them dying a terrible death in Mexico. I won't sell one through the sale barn anymore because of that. They don't deserve it and I can get one of the cowboys to shoot one and just bury it on our place. However, I have also hauled one to the vet to put them down too. I just can't stomach the thought of Mexico.
I worked at the local sale barn for years and saw how those guys treat them. It is 10 times worse in Mexico. | |
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TrailGirl - 2017-06-15 7:52 AM
Bear in mind that this is NOT your horse...she still claims ownership. If you have it put down or otherwise dispose of it (sell or give away)...she could claim she never told you to do that...and just imagine the DRAMA she could cause then.
Haul it to her...leave it there...and go home.
Alternative...get something in writing...notarized...from her giving ownership of the horse to you. Before you do anything.
This is what I'm afraid of. She finally had her daughter call us back... she will come get the horse and have him put down. Of course my step daughter is hysterical at this point. She called again last night crying and said mom will pay you guys $100 a month if you keep him. Wow! I told my husband if she will give us the papers and sign a bill of sale to us for the horse, he can stay. The whole not giving us the papers but wanting to sign something saying she won't sell him makes my blood boil. If she agrees to release his papers and give up any ownership of him, I'm willing to keep him here and continue his care and possibly see if there are any treatments for his ankle. My heart is breaking for my stepdaughter at this point and I feel bad for the horse.
You just got manipulated and did not realize it!!
Always ask this question to yourself to find out if you
are being manipulated >>>
If I do not do what another person asks of me ... will I feel guilty?? ...
If you feel guilty .. you are being manipulated!!
Follow the Mother's input thru her daughter and
TAKE THE HORSE BACK WHEN SHE IS NOT HOME
AND DROP IT OFF ... make sure you take pictures
of the condition of the horse.!!
Explain to the step daughter in clear simple language
after you drop the horse off ...
Your Mother owns the horse and is the only one that
can make the decision what to do with the horse.
And let the step daughter know she is welcome to come ride
one of your horses or whatever her abilities are ..
STOP BEING A MOUSE AND END THE DRAMA NOW!!
OR YOUR MARRIAGE WILL SUFFER FOREVER!!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2017-06-15 11:31 AM want2chase3 - 2017-06-14 2:24 PM Kinda long but the whole scenario needs to be known. About 4 months ago we let my husband's ex bring a horse to our house (for their daughter, pretty much) when she brought the horse, he was grossly underweight and injured.. not sure what happened to his leg but it was very swollen in the ankle. She said she had it x rayed but the vet said it needed that an mri done to see what was going on. She said her sister took the horse to get the mri done apparently they had a falling out and the mri results aren't available. Sounds fishy, but whatever.. she also said if we decided we couldn't keep him, she'd take him back no problem.. it didn't matter to her, I quote! I started feeding him up, worming , getting feet fixed, got a bunch of swelling out by poultice and cold hosing... step daughter was coming over daily to help clean stalls, water, feed, etc etc... then she started coming less and less frequently... she said it was costing her too much in gas to come over everyday. They live maybe 6 minutes from us, if that. The horse isn't sound... it's obvious where he's off..we decided we couldn't afford to take him for extensive x rays, mri whatnot... plus this ex refused to give us his papers... I actually had a friend who wanted him and would take him to the vet for whatever he needed and see if he could actually be fixed... ex refused to let the horse go unless this friend would pay $1000. My friend backed out... I don't blame her either! Then the ex told my husband we can't have papers but she'd sign something saying she wouldn't sell him if he stayed with us. So fast forward... for the last month or so, step daughter hasn't even looked at the horse or come over to see him or ride him, he's rideable but very light and walking only... all his care has fallen on me, plus he's gotten aggressive with my daughters good colt that we just got back, kicking, biting and jumping on him. I have 1 medium sized pasture and I have 3 stall barn. I have 3 other horses, that our OURS. I'm having to stall horses up to keep the peace because of this horse. So today, my husband made the call to the ex and said we are loading up the horse and bringing him back to you, we can't keep him here anymore. .. her answer was no... just put him down, she can't afford him anymore. Of course my step daughter is just hysterical... honestly we can't afford him as a pasture pet... every horse we have earns their keep... our pasture right now is good but it won't last much longer.. I don't even know what I've spent on getting him healthy again, minus the leg... my farrier says it's not fixable a few other people I respect say the same.. he's always going to be gimpy on it. I'm so angry right about the situation and her just saying put him down.. I'm trying not to lose my Jesus! This is gonna sound harsh, but if no one around you will take the horse as a grade pasture pet to maybe lead the kids around on. Then I'd haul him to a sale barn and sell him as grade to get a small part of your money back. But you know he's gonna more than likely end up on a meat truck.
I would never run one threw the kill sale to get back any amount of money, I would rather pay the money to have one put down the humane way, I lived in the Valley and have seen many kill trucks loaded down with horses going to Mexico to be killed, it was horrible just horrible to see... | |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-06-15 12:17 PM
Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2017-06-15 11:31 AM want2chase3 - 2017-06-14 2:24 PM Kinda long but the whole scenario needs to be known. About 4 months ago we let my husband's ex bring a horse to our house (for their daughter, pretty much) when she brought the horse, he was grossly underweight and injured.. not sure what happened to his leg but it was very swollen in the ankle. She said she had it x rayed but the vet said it needed that an mri done to see what was going on. She said her sister took the horse to get the mri done apparently they had a falling out and the mri results aren't available. Sounds fishy, but whatever.. she also said if we decided we couldn't keep him, she'd take him back no problem.. it didn't matter to her, I quote! I started feeding him up, worming , getting feet fixed, got a bunch of swelling out by poultice and cold hosing... step daughter was coming over daily to help clean stalls, water, feed, etc etc... then she started coming less and less frequently... she said it was costing her too much in gas to come over everyday. They live maybe 6 minutes from us, if that. The horse isn't sound... it's obvious where he's off..we decided we couldn't afford to take him for extensive x rays, mri whatnot... plus this ex refused to give us his papers... I actually had a friend who wanted him and would take him to the vet for whatever he needed and see if he could actually be fixed... ex refused to let the horse go unless this friend would pay $1000. My friend backed out... I don't blame her either! Then the ex told my husband we can't have papers but she'd sign something saying she wouldn't sell him if he stayed with us. So fast forward... for the last month or so, step daughter hasn't even looked at the horse or come over to see him or ride him, he's rideable but very light and walking only... all his care has fallen on me, plus he's gotten aggressive with my daughters good colt that we just got back, kicking, biting and jumping on him. I have 1 medium sized pasture and I have 3 stall barn. I have 3 other horses, that our OURS. I'm having to stall horses up to keep the peace because of this horse. So today, my husband made the call to the ex and said we are loading up the horse and bringing him back to you, we can't keep him here anymore. .. her answer was no... just put him down, she can't afford him anymore. Of course my step daughter is just hysterical... honestly we can't afford him as a pasture pet... every horse we have earns their keep... our pasture right now is good but it won't last much longer.. I don't even know what I've spent on getting him healthy again, minus the leg... my farrier says it's not fixable a few other people I respect say the same.. he's always going to be gimpy on it. I'm so angry right about the situation and her just saying put him down.. I'm trying not to lose my Jesus! This is gonna sound harsh, but if no one around you will take the horse as a grade pasture pet to maybe lead the kids around on. Then I'd haul him to a sale barn and sell him as grade to get a small part of your money back. But you know he's gonna more than likely end up on a meat truck.
I totally agree, STPG. It is terrible. That little bit of money you'll get won't pay a summer month's electric bill down here. When the meat trucks were stopped here in the states, we did the horses no favors AT ALL.
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| I won't run him thru a sale... it's been decided if she will sign him over to us, he's got a safe home with us. I don't even care about the papers anymore just want the bill of sale. | |
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| want2chase3 - 2017-06-15 12:36 PM
I won't run him thru a sale... it's been decided if she will sign him over to us, he's got a safe home with us. I don't even care about the papers anymore just want the bill of sale.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GLP - 2017-06-15 12:38 PM want2chase3 - 2017-06-15 12:36 PM I won't run him thru a sale... it's been decided if she will sign him over to us, he's got a safe home with us. I don't even care about the papers anymore just want the bill of sale. I hope she will agree to that. Bless your heart for fighting so hard for him.
Got my fingers crossed for you
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | want2chase3 - 2017-06-15 1:47 PM The offers been presented so I'm just waiting to hear.
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