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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2017-06-20 4:36 PM
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We're planning a barn, too. So, following your thread!
One thing I want to do is put in sky lights to save on electricity, so I don't have to run the lights during the day. Also, sprayed in insulation on the ceiling. Without it, you'll have to put up with condensation dripping everywhere on humid morning, which is a big problem here.

e.t.a. We're planning a 50 x 60. Three stalls, a tack room and space to park my trailer under the same roof.

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1DSoon
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hannahbug
Reg. Mar 2017
Posted 2017-06-20 6:21 PM
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Nita - 2017-06-20 4:36 PM

We're planning a barn, too. So, following your thread!
One thing I want to do is put in sky lights to save on electricity, so I don't have to run the lights during the day. Also, sprayed in insulation on the ceiling. Without it, you'll have to put up with condensation dripping everywhere on humid morning, which is a big problem here.

e.t.a. We're planning a 50 x 60. Three stalls, a tack room and space to park my trailer under the same roof.

The reason all the old (50+ years) show horse barns are dark is to keep flies to a minimum. Just saying.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2017-06-20 6:50 PM
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OregonBR - 2017-06-20 3:56 PM I would never have insulation put in a barn ever again without first putting chicken wire mesh so the birds can't pick at the insulation. I got talked into it in my stall barn but I refused in my arena. It does sweat a little bit when the weather is just right. But it's not enough to worry about vs the birds destroying the insulation.

 The kind I have is a heat shield and birds have never messed with it.  I do have barn cats tho. 
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NipntuckLR
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2017-06-20 9:03 PM
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Whiteboy - 2017-06-19 1:37 PM

Good to know on the wash rack.  Weather wise we are rarely over 100^ in the summer and rarely colder than 0^ in the winter.  What about insulation in the barn??    What about stall dividers, Pre-fab or stickbuilt?

That's funny, my wash rack is one of my very favorite things! if I were building a barn I would never skip one, it is kind of a dream come true of mine to finally have a wash rack inside. I use it almost every day.
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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2017-06-20 9:18 PM
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hannahbug - 2017-06-20 6:21 PM

Nita - 2017-06-20 4:36 PM

We're planning a barn, too. So, following your thread!
One thing I want to do is put in sky lights to save on electricity, so I don't have to run the lights during the day. Also, sprayed in insulation on the ceiling. Without it, you'll have to put up with condensation dripping everywhere on humid morning, which is a big problem here.

e.t.a. We're planning a 50 x 60. Three stalls, a tack room and space to park my trailer under the same roof.

The reason all the old (50+ years) show horse barns are dark is to keep flies to a minimum. Just saying.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that about the flies.
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Ashley Lynn
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2017-06-20 10:10 PM
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Nita - 2017-06-20 9:18 PM

hannahbug - 2017-06-20 6:21 PM

Nita - 2017-06-20 4:36 PM

We're planning a barn, too. So, following your thread!
One thing I want to do is put in sky lights to save on electricity, so I don't have to run the lights during the day. Also, sprayed in insulation on the ceiling. Without it, you'll have to put up with condensation dripping everywhere on humid morning, which is a big problem here.

e.t.a. We're planning a 50 x 60. Three stalls, a tack room and space to park my trailer under the same roof.

The reason all the old (50+ years) show horse barns are dark is to keep flies to a minimum. Just saying.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that about the flies.

I've heard if you paint the roof light blue the flies will stay away?!
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-06-20 10:29 PM
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make sure your center aisle is wide enough for a tractor and have a drain in  wash area and slant.. from center to outter.. i had a Mortan barn built love it.. and had porch with cement on outside of stalls with dutch doors so I could sit out there .. tack room drywalled.. hot water heater .. seperate feed room totally drywalled enclosed so rodents stay out.. with a sink fridge etc for medicine and carrots..high ceilings for air flow and end doors you can shut for bad weather.. doors are sliding so not to be a pain..stalls 16 by 16 loved the room.. auto waterers are good but you cant monitor water intake but also have plenty of electric plugs up high so horses cant chew the fan cords..
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2017-06-21 5:52 AM
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I'd poop a ring around myself to have some of the barns you guys have!
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4Horse
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2017-06-21 7:48 AM
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We have a 36x48 4 stall barn, all stalls on one side, 12' center aisle, 12x16 tack room and a 12x21' feed room with a small area as a sitting area just off it on one end. Tack room and feed room are drywalled with fire proof and water proof drywall, T&G on the ceiling; exterior is T&G like the stalls. The barn has 16' overhang off both sides, making the paddocks covered and make covered equipment parking on the other side. All stalls have interior and exterior doors. My biggest complaint is the ceiling/rafter height is so tall I can't clean it, even with one of the duster's and all the extensions for it. We spent about $70,000. In retrospect, I wouldn't spend that kind of money again on a barn again. It is a pretty barn with a lot of bells and whistles but has very little resale value for our area. If you are getting many years of use out of it, great investment, if only a few years, might be something to rethink.
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4Horse
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2017-06-21 7:59 AM
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We have a 36x48 4 stall barn, all stalls on one side, 12' center aisle, 12x16 tack room and a 12x21' feed room with a small area as a sitting area just off it on one end. Tack room and feed room are drywalled with fire proof and water proof drywall, T&G on the ceiling; T&G on the wall to the aisle like the stalls. The barn has 16' overhang off both sides, making the paddocks covered and make covered equipment parking on the other side. All stalls have interior and exterior doors. My biggest complaint is the ceiling/rafter height is so tall I can't clean it, even with one of the duster's and all the extensions for it. I also wish we had a 6' porch off the front and back so center aisle doors could be left open when its raining.

We spent about $70,000. In retrospect, I wouldn't spend that kind of money again on a barn again. It is a pretty barn with a lot of bells and whistles but has very little resale value for our area. If you are getting many years of use out of it, great investment, if only a few years, might be something to rethink if you think you would be moving and selling in the near future.

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luluwhit
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2017-06-21 8:01 AM
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Whiteboy - 2017-06-20 1:15 PM
countrygirl2006 - 2017-06-20 12:06 PM
Whiteboy - 2017-06-19 3:37 PM Good to know on the wash rack.  Weather wise we are rarely over 100^ in the summer and rarely colder than 0^ in the winter.  What about insulation in the barn??    What about stall dividers, Pre-fab or stickbuilt?
I love my stickbuilt stalls, as they were so much more affordable than prefab but they also look good in my opinion. However with my next barn, I will have to do some more thinking on how I want to do them. At a previous barn that I worked for, they had prefabs and the dividers folded back if needed. So 2 12x12 stalls became 1 12x24 foaling stall. In your situation, as I think you have a stallion, I would think that this would be a great feature to have for mares and foals. Or for myself I would have used it when I've been rehabbing a horse, but I didn't have that option. Just something to consider.   
I really like the idea of having a couple stalls with the folding divider.  Good recomendation.  
i would think the folding wall might be a bit much.  i have the chanels and just 2x8 boards slid in them.  we can take the side walls out for foaling or rehab and stack the boards in the corner.  i have also had one cast and was able to pull all the boards out and able to get him up that way. 
i did use pre fab fronts on our stalls.  i like the feed door access they provide and they have held up well. 
Plan for fan placement for airflow.  We have a large fan hanging from the rafters to push air thru the barn and then individual stall fans to circulate air into the stalls.  the big fan we just winch up to the rafter behind it to store in the winter.  Also the outlets for the fans double as outlets for heated buckets in the winter.  Always put covers over the outlets in the barns to keep the mud daubbers from filling up the holes. 
I would definately reccomend insulation on the celing at least.  it helps keep my barn warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer. 

i would prioritize airflow over misters for cooling horses.  also our barn was built on a rise and has a slight drop to the outside.  Never had any issues with water getting in from heavy rains and keeps the stalls dryer.

lululand = southern indiana  highs mid 90-100 and lows 10-0 are the extremes we hit here. 

ETA i almost forgot my favorite feature.  we have our barn laid out east to west.  my eastern doors are 1/2 plexiglass and built like windows.  I love them.  they let in so much natural light that most of the year i dont need lights in the barn. 

 
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lazytdickens
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2017-06-21 8:15 AM
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Mine is 42 x 42. Nothing impressive but all I need since I only have one horse. 2- 14 x 14 stalls on one side, with hay stall in between them, 14' hall and open on the other side. This is my favorite part.... I had a 10 x 12 metal building that I was going to put beside the barn, which I was already dreading it being there. When the guy came to move it, we figured out that it would roll under the open side so it now sits in the barn, across from hay stall. It was already insulated so it has made the perfect tack/feed room.
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Whiteboy
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Posted 2017-06-21 10:13 AM
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NipntuckLR - 2017-06-20 9:03 PM
Whiteboy - 2017-06-19 1:37 PM Good to know on the wash rack.  Weather wise we are rarely over 100^ in the summer and rarely colder than 0^ in the winter.  What about insulation in the barn??    What about stall dividers, Pre-fab or stickbuilt?
That's funny, my wash rack is one of my very favorite things! if I were building a barn I would never skip one, it is kind of a dream come true of mine to finally have a wash rack inside. I use it almost every day.

I had to spray off a few colts last winter and I was wishing I had an indoor wash rack, but I also wonder if it worth the cost to really need it 2 or 3 time a year.  
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Whiteboy
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Posted 2017-06-21 10:19 AM
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For those of you who store hay in the barn, does the fire potential worry you??
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lazytdickens
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2017-06-21 10:38 AM
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Whiteboy - 2017-06-21 10:19 AM

For those of you who store hay in the barn, does the fire potential worry you??

No, but the snake potential does.
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lhighquality
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Posted 2017-06-21 12:06 PM
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Whiteboy - 2017-06-20 12:15 PM

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Whiteboy - 2017-06-19 3:37 PM Good to know on the wash rack.  Weather wise we are rarely over 100^ in the summer and rarely colder than 0^ in the winter.  What about insulation in the barn??    What about stall dividers, Pre-fab or stickbuilt?
I love my stickbuilt stalls, as they were so much more affordable than prefab but they also look good in my opinion. However with my next barn, I will have to do some more thinking on how I want to do them. At a previous barn that I worked for, they had prefabs and the dividers folded back if needed. So 2 12x12 stalls became 1 12x24 foaling stall. In your situation, as I think you have a stallion, I would think that this would be a great feature to have for mares and foals. Or for myself I would have used it when I've been rehabbing a horse, but I didn't have that option. Just something to consider.   

I really like the idea of having a couple stalls with the folding divider.  Good recomendation.  

I have a folding divider door in my stalls, love them!!! They work great!!!

My husband is a welder, my stall doors are full length of stall & are heavy made "chain Link" (my dad was in the military & they dismantled the insides of a storage bldg that had "cages" in it!!!) that he welded to a frame work, we live in KS my barn sits North & South, which helps to keep it cooler than an east & west barn!
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Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2017-06-22 8:42 PM
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How much barn do you need...?

None.

I survive with a couple three sided sheds.

That said I'd sure like one, lol.
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2017-06-22 9:53 PM
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being in florida i would never store hay in my barn ..  
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Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2017-06-23 12:47 AM
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I love my washrack.  Probably my favorite part.  That and the feed room see me everyday.  It's my washrack, my doctoring spot, my hitching post, my saddling spot (which my daughter and I fight over because that's where we both want to park our horse.  It is in the space of a stall, right next to the feed room, and in the middle of barn.  The barn is a center alley, all stalls on one side, stall/feed/wash/stall/hay on the other, overhangs on three sides (should have done the 4th also) for trailer, tractors, equipment.  The washrack is open on the alley side (with pipe gate for keeping horses in the alley) and the exterior wall side (12ft sliding door if I want to shut it up, always stays open though) so it serves as another entrance into the barn and as a pass-through from the horse trailer parking.  We never unload the trailer anymore.  The rear tack of the horse trailer is right there at the wash rack.  We can also load/unload horses while completely under cover.  My stall dividers are the 2x12 tongue and groove that slides in the channels.  I've never taken them out on purpose but one of my mares has....  
?  I would add electric outlets at every other stall, water faucet at every four, lights outside - on EVERY side, and more ways to open up for ventilation.  I want to go back and make the higher part of the walls like doors so I could open them in the summer and close them in the winter.  I added two six foot gates across the front of the ally, inside the sliding door.  In the summer I keep the sliding door open and use the gates.  During the winter I use the sliding door and the gates fold back against the stalls or just stay fastened.
?   How much do you really need?  For you or your horses?  My horses are way less in love with my barn than I am.  They tolerate it long enough to eat but then they want right back out.  I need all the barn I have.  They need none of it.  
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