Southtxponygirl - 2017-07-03 12:22 PM Yes you were wrong for posting your disappointment with this trainer on Facebook or where ever you did the posting, the problem should have been between the two of you not the public.. You should have been going to check on your horse to see how it was doing.. Take your horse for a vet check and see if they can find out if theres a issue of it being sore are hurt. 

lonely va barrelxr - 2017-07-03 5:21 PM





I totally disagree with it not being OK to post negative results of ANYTHING we purchase on FB or any other social media.  If anyone has any common sense they understand that one side is just that - one side of an issue.  But it's BS to be the bad person for posting negative stuff.  Life is not all rosey cheeks and rainbows.  We can't all post positive posts all the time.  And if there are issues with specific trainers (or any other product or service) how the heck else are we horse people supposed to let others know?  



I think this pussy footing around bad trainer service is stupid.  There are good trainers and there are those that aren't.  Some are good business men and women and some aren't.  I've seen plenty of slamming of shady sellers - so why would the rules be any different for bad trainers?  



I've had some bad dealings with trainers and tried to handle it between me and the trainer(s).  All that did was make them think they could do it again, to me and to others.  

So Lost - 2017-07-03 3:18 PM Yes, I shouldn't have trusted the trainer, even though previously I had a great experience with them, and when the updates were slow I should have been a thorn in this trainers side. I should have said get me videos or I'm sending a hauler. Instead I was understanding about how many horses this trainer had and the long hours they were working and every other excuse I was given for why updates were slow, or vauge and they couldn't get video.



I should have traveled up to see and ride my horse, unfortunately because of my work right now I can't be gone for much more than 24 hours or I would have.



As far as riding different yes everyone rides a bit different but horsemanship is horsemanship. I grew up buying, retraining and selling sale barn horses, catch riding at sales, I usually train all of my own horses but the property I have now isn't set up for it. I have ridden everything from cutters, reiners, western pleasure horses to dressage and jumpers. So I can pretty much guaranteed this isn't a case of the horse has my number.



I asked the trainer about the issues I was having as soon as I rode the horse and they had no explanation, at all. Didn't even say it was odd for the horse or suggest maybe I was doing something wrong. They just said they feel bad the horse is like that. I can't even wrap my head around how a person can take a horse who was going pretty good for me before I sent it, into this dead sided, hard mouthed, animal



As far as my post on social media, well it pretty much said that my horse didn't do well in training and I am disappointed and will have to start the horse from scratch and retrain it. I also said I was feeling sort of ripped off.



I guess I should have told everyone the horse was perfect and retrained it in silence and let the trainer take the credit when the horse is retrained and running because it faux pas to share any experience with a trainer that was bad.

 

1DSoon - 2017-07-03 5:24 PM


passive aggressive is GOOOOODDDDDD 

TrailGirl - 2017-07-03 1:49 PM You know...whether or not she went to see the horse or work the horse with the trainer...something is wrong here. The horse should not be worse off after 6 months of training. Period. If things were going that badly the trainer should have been communicating that with the client. Not just taking their money and continuing on. Makes you wonder if the trainer themselves was even the one working with the horse. I guess I find it hard to believe that most are responding as if the owner is the key one at fault here.

euchee - 2017-07-03 5:18 PM  I agree with what trailgirl is saying.  It is the trainers job to let you know if there is a problem.  In a perfect world we would all be able to go check on our horses in trainig a couple of times a month BUT we don't live in a perfect world.

I have sent horses out and had them call me if they had any concerns or complaints about the horse.  Otherwise I don't want to bother them more then every week and a half or so.

I don't have a problem with her stating her disapointment on line.  In this day and age people providing a service should expect it.  You can bet if she was happy with the results the trainer would darn sure want her to post that.

To me this screams of a trainer taking advantage of a long distance owner.  Flame Away or whatever

 

WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-07-03 5:38 PM  I have to laugh...  You send your horse off for 6 months and never ONCE go ride with the trainer. Even when you pick it up????  That is ridiculous. She said after a few months the trainer was saying the horse was not doing well.  Ummm red flag as a horse owner... maybe I need to dig and see what is up. Go visit with the trainer or communicate with them what is going on. Then make the decision if the horse is not fitting well with the trainer.  I can tell you my horses are my kids and if my horse, that I raised is getting called a bad egg after so many months there is a very big red flag.  Plus I am spending hundreds to a person. I will be there to see what is up.  To many people get themselves into these problems by not physically being involved.  Just like all the farrier problems out there with bad ones. Become some what educated in what services you are paying for. You dont need to be an expert but ASK questions and pay attention to the process. ESPECIALLY when you are dealing with living things!!!! 

lonely va barrelxr - 2017-07-03 4:29 PM I don't think I've been passive aggressive a moment in my life. I'm either happy (or at least ok) with a situation or I'll be in your face about it. Posting something negative on FB isn't passive aggressive, it's pretty straight forward - your name is attached to it. Now here on BHW where we hide behind screen names can be a bit passive aggressive.

kwanatha - 2017-07-03 5:17 PM

i am going to disagree with most on here. i think this is a pretty bad situation and I get tired of these types of problems being the owners fault. sorry but owners pay the "experts" to take care of their horse and to provide quality training. after 6 months you should  be able to ride your horse outside the arena. you should be able to walk, jog, canter and have some body control. and a decent stop according to the horses abilty. the horse should pick up leads decently also.

I have used many trainers and some i have had to keep my eye on and quite frankly that makes them a low quality trainer and they get dumped. The good ones can have a horse dropped off and picked up months later looking good and riding well. If for some reason the horse is not progressing, it is the trainers resonsibilty to comunicate with the owner the lack of progress and ideas of why; and in a timely manner. maybe horse needs a vet or maybe it is a puke. then tell me. 

some of my best expereinces have been: one horse i was told on day 3 that she was POS and it was my choice to pick up or move on. I stayed for 10 more days to finish the half month then the horse had a break though so continued.  horse number 2 was POS after a week, brought it home and sold it. Another one was not doing well and the trainer told me the horse was having lameness issues like within two weeks. so it went to the vet.
 there have been others but i am only commenting on the problems. I have one now that is a POS with tons of talent. I continue with him but am kept informed on him. He has had training on and off for a while and still shows progress he just needs attitude adjustments.

the point I am making here is NOT one of the good trainers took more than 2 weeks to size up the horse and give me an idea of what to expect and they were pretty much right about the horse. The difference here is I was infomred so I could save my money if I so chose.

I do not fully judge a trainer based on the successes. I judge them also by how they deal with the failures. These great trainers handled themselves perfectly and I do not hold it against them that the horse was a puke.

I do not have time to go for a weekly visit to keep tabs on a trainer and make sure he/she is doing their job. i am not their babysitter. they need to be the pro or lose my business.

It bothers me that the owner is the bad guy when the pro rips them off.
peeps get told all the time to get professional help now they need to pay a professional to babysit the professional.
 

NJJ - 2017-07-03 5:51 PM  Surely, you aren't pointing that statement at 1DSoon .....LOL
I wonder how many of those who are taking the OP to task for not going to ride the horse during the training period would REALLY have been willing to make a TWO THOUSAND mile round trip to do it.....because she has posted that the trainer was 1000 miles away ..... and IF this horse was such a "pig", a reputable trainer would have said COME GET YOUR HORSE and not keep taking the money. That being said, with only one side of the story, we don't "know" that the trainer didn't tell the OP to come get her horse.
 

WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-07-03 5:56 PM  Ummm she didnt even ride with the trainer when she went to pick the horse up herself....  and for someone I am keeping a horse at for 6 months and probably paying a couple thousand dollars to I would go ride with the trainer at some point... even just once!

NJJ - 2017-07-03 5:51 PM  Surely, you aren't pointing that statement at 1DSoon .....LOL

I wonder how many of those who are taking the OP to task for not going to ride the horse during the training period would REALLY have been willing to make a TWO THOUSAND mile round trip to do it.....because she has posted that the trainer was 1000 miles away ..... and IF this horse was such a "pig", a reputable trainer would have said COME GET YOUR HORSE and not keep taking the money. That being said, with only one side of the story, we don't "know" that the trainer didn't tell the OP to come get her horse.

 

So Lost - 2017-07-03 5:59 PM Note ! My truck broke down on the way to get it! I had to hire a hauler!