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Location: mi | I really like my BOT quick wraps for race day. I put them on him while he is tied to the trailer or stalled if its a weekend event for as long as I can prior to running. I also like my lame away spray to give his problem joint its own little spritz of feel good juice about 1/2 hour or so prerun. Are they totally necessary probably not. But if nothing else they would make a nice christmas or birthday gift. :) |
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 12:34 PM
Ok, any brands I should look for?
I like Fastrack or Opti-Zyme (by Mannapro) |
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| Thank you! Will definitely get him on a probiotic, and that Lame Away spray sounds like it would be worth a try! I'm going to have to get some for him. |
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Location: mi | emricmacy - 2017-10-04 1:42 PM Thank you! Will definitely get him on a probiotic, and that Lame Away spray sounds like it would be worth a try! I'm going to have to get some for him. My mom had some jacked up knees and she would use it on them on days she was just hanging out at the house and she said it made them feel better. Not as good as a bunch of motrin or ..... but gave her stomach a break and did ease the aches. So I use it on him on race days as just a bit of a helper..... Its cheap and he doesn't complain so I do it. :) a bottle will last all season and then some depending on how much you run.
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 12:42 PM
Thank you! Will definitely get him on a probiotic, and that Lame Away spray sounds like it would be worth a try! I'm going to have to get some for him.
My bullfighter friends LOVE my Lame Away for old breaks and bad knees. They use it way more than I do on my horses.  |
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| I think I'm going to order some of the spray online. Does it spray on clear? |
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 9:57 AM Thank you! I will take him off the ActiFlex. Vet just e-mailed me, saying to not use Bute and Previcox together. He started Previcox this AM, she has him on 1/4tab. She said the Previcox is a bit better for long term use. I will buy a tub of Bute from her when she comes next, just in case I ever need it in the future. So, I will stick to Adequan, pasturn injections, and Previcox for now. I'm overwhelming myself already. I'm the type that just wants to do more and more, but one step at a time. Should I stop using the ForeBasics supplement that the previous owner had him on? It's a bit expensive, but if you all think it's worth it for him, I will continue, if not then I will put that money towards injections.
I think stopping the ForeBasics is dependent on what the rest of your feed program is?
This is what their website states for that supplement.
The foundation formula for all our blends! Whether you’re looking for a quality supplement that is both affordable plus covers the basic nutritional needs for your pleasure and trail horse, or if you’re looking for a means to support your performance horse during the off season, ForeBasic+ is a great choice. ForeBasic+ harnesses the power of Colostrum, Benecell®, prebiotics and equine specific probiotics into a basic, yet complete, blend for horses who don’t require additional joint, digestive or lung support. |
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| My advice is start small... don't do too many things at once where you don't know whats helping. With maintenance I always do the least invasive. 1. cost 2. I want additional steps to take going forward.
I would start with adequan and the injections and go from there. Personally I wouldn't do previcox once those are on board. JMO. I wouldn't bute either unless necessary and I wouldn't switch back and forth.
I personally would think PHT would be more beneficial for the arthritis and BOT but again that's always a decent debate on here. |
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| My vet always injected then did a booster injection within a month.
Make sure you know what your vet is injecting. Not all injections are created equal. Depo or cortisone in the joint will accelerate the arthritis. Trimsclione is a steroid used in conjunction to HA has showed it can restore cartilage.
HA is not all equal. Legend is not good, and it is cheap. Hylartil is a thicker molecular weight and will last longer in the joint, there are other types as well, do your research.
As for prolonging the injection. Acetyl D glucosamine is cheap, and you can give it IV weekly. This will help reduce the inflammation in the joint therefore prevent the progression of arthritis.
The key is preventing any inflammation, any sign of a windpuff you have inflammation in the joint.
Clay poultice will help, back on track will help. Some people say magnetics will help, I am not a believe in magnetics as I had one colic due to magnetics (this is a story in itself).
Cold hosing after every ride will help, game ready, ice boots.
Soft rides while hauling or stalling will help.
if you have any questions feel free to message me, I lived through this as well.
PS some feed through supplements will work on some horses, but it is a trial and error. The things I look for in feed through supplements, collagen hyrdoslate, glucosamine, and HA. |
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| For the clay poultice, I've done a little research, and Sore No More comes up with some good reviews, as well as the Sore No More Performance poultice. Can this just be left on without a wrap? How long do I leave them on? Is this something I do the day before a race, day of? Sorry for all the questions! I'm going to look into some ice boots (used after a race, correct)? I'm going to try some Lame Away spray, but I did see that Lame Away has a Mud, but I haven't seen any reviews online about it.
I guess I'm still a little confused with the ice/heat topic. Ice boots after a race, and BOT quick wraps before a race?
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Location: California | emricmacy - 2017-10-07 5:51 AM
For the clay poultice, I've done a little research, and Sore No More comes up with some good reviews, as well as the Sore No More Performance poultice. Can this just be left on without a wrap? How long do I leave them on? Is this something I do the day before a race, day of? Sorry for all the questions! I'm going to look into some ice boots (used after a race, correct)? I'm going to try some Lame Away spray, but I did see that Lame Away has a Mud, but I haven't seen any reviews online about it.
I guess I'm still a little confused with the ice/heat topic. Ice boots after a race, and BOT quick wraps before a race?
I think Lame Away is mostly popular in Ca since it’s made here. It’s a great product and I just wanted to say they donate a lot of product to our races out here. That got me to switch from Sore No More. I loved SNM too but as one of our producers says support those who support you! You personally may not benefit from their support but it’s great that the company supports barrel racing! I don’t know if SNM does?
Also maybe check with your vet about giving the loading dose twice a year instead of the monthly shots of adequan. That’s how many vets are recommending it now. Best of luck with your horse |
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| Today's the day he gets injected, and starts his adequan shots. I hope for good results. Vet didn't mention last time she was out how long his recovery time is for the pastern injections to start light riding. Any others had this done before? |
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-12 6:08 AM Today's the day he gets injected, and starts his adequan shots. I hope for good results. Vet didn't mention last time she was out how long his recovery time is for the pastern injections to start light r iding. Any others had this done before?
If I remember correctly it was about a week. Good luck! |
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Location: Windoming | emricmacy - 2017-10-06 6:51 AM For the clay poultice, I've done a little research, and Sore No More comes up with some good reviews, as well as the Sore No More Performance poultice. Can this just be left on without a wrap? How long do I leave them on? Is this something I do the day before a race, day of? Sorry for all the questions! I'm going to look into some ice boots (used after a race, correct)? I'm going to try some Lame Away spray, but I did see that Lame Away has a Mud, but I haven't seen any reviews online about it. I guess I'm still a little confused with the ice/heat topic. Ice boots after a race, and BOT quick wraps before a race?
I use the SNM Performance mud. I like to put it on after I ride my horse. I have never wrapped with it on. I just let it wear off. In the summer, I like to put it on his front legs every morning, helps keep him from splitting his hooves stomping at flies. I started using it when he developed a splint on one leg. The splint is pretty much gone now. |
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| Vet visit went good! Injected his pastern and started with the Adequan injections today also..hoping for some good results so he can be comfortable again! He was very sleepy from the sedative, here's a picture.
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Location: Arkansas | They look so pitiful when they're like that!
Keep us updated---hoping for the best! |
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| He got injected last Thursday, had stall rest for 1/2 day on Friday, and has been out all day since. Lunged him tonight, just walk/trot and he's still off going to the right. Vet said it could take 2 weeks to see full results, but I guess I'm discouraged. I'm not sure what my expectations should be. He's had two of the 7 loading doses of Adequan so far. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | emricmacy - 2017-10-17 6:55 PM
He got injected last Thursday, had stall rest for 1/2 day on Friday, and has been out all day since. Lunged him tonight, just walk/trot and he's still off going to the right. Vet said it could take 2 weeks to see full results, but I guess I'm discouraged. I'm not sure what my expectations should be. He's had two of the 7 loading doses of Adequan so far.
Be more patient. |
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