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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-11-01 1:22 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-11-01 2:57 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-11-01 3:45 AM
Buy your truck first since most people do some financing on a car or truck ..
if you are paying on a trailer and then buying a truck financing at a low rate
of interest may be impossible .... or even qualifying might be tuff.
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BUY A 4X4 ... front wheel drive is always in trouble or been abused
BUY AN AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ... most have problems past 150,000
and can easily run 6k to repair and still not be fixed. Also comes with
less engine horse power and torque.
BUY ONE that has been MODIFIED .... nothing worse than a diesel engine
that has been revved up by an idiot to make some noise ...
BUY ONE THAT has had a 5th wheel hitch in it ... it has spent its entire life
dragging it around ..
BUY ONE that has lived on a ranch/farm or with too many owners
VERY IMPORTANT ... HURRICANE flooded vehicles will be showing up
as clean and clear all over the country ... happens every time we have
flooding somewhere
NOW FOR THE GOOD POINTS
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BUY YOU A DODGE FOR THE CUMMINS DIESEL ...
working trucks are not supposed to ride like a Cadillac
Learn to drive a 6 speed manual ... you can replace an entire clutch system
for less than $700 and it will be good for another 150-200,000 miles
You can change gears to go up a mountain with no effort and gear
down to help your brakes coming down a mountain or to slow down.
BUY A 4X2 rear wheel drive dually and enjoy 20-22 mpg empty and
16 mpg dragging a 3 horse trailer .. and will be the correct height
for a BP or GN trailer..
ALWAYS BUY A CARFAX to see where truck has lived ... and when
it was there .. and number of owners ... etc etc I think $39 will
enable you to look at 5-6 trucks ..
If you can find an old man selling a truck in the 125,000 mile range
that lives in a larger city ... buy it... lol
Work the large dealerships in cities that are on the net ... city slickers
have to keep up with the Jone's next door and some clean low mileage trucks are
hidden there.
NEVER REVEAL YOUR SALARY OR WHAT YOU WANT YOUR PAYMENT TO BE ..
and remember ... the dealership has a price they want and then add on
the salesman's commission ... so what you are dealing with is getting the
salesman to lower his commission in order to sell the truck ..
they get bonuses for the number of units they sell so making a deal
at the end of the month may work in your favor ..
If pestered for your salary etc ... just say your grandmother is helping
you pay cash for it ... if you have a credit union where you work use
them for financing ... financing at a bank will rob you .. lol
After you agree on a price ... pretend to call grandma ... and tell them
she spent the money on buying you a horse trailer and then talk financing
if you aren't already pre-approved by your CU or bank ...
Here are a couple that look like good deals ...
but both are automatics .. HA HA ..
THIS white one has a dealer that sounds like the FBI is after him and the
truck is in Florida .... RUN BABY RUN ..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Dodge-Ram-3500-Dually-Diesel/152767653...
THIS RED ONE has been lugging a 5th wheel around all of its life ..
RUN FOREST RUN ...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Dodge-Ram-3500-SLT-2WD-Quad-Cab-5-9-Cu...
GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN LOOKING ..
This made me laugh... There is so much wrong with it but Oh well. And CARFAX means absolutely ZERO!!!!!! Carfax only reports what has been reported to them, which is dealer only stuff.. If someone buys a truck and modifies it and blows it up.... that doesn't get reported to car fax. And I have always been a 6 speed manual guy BUT the newer transmissions ( Autos ) can be shifted just like a manual if need be.. ANDDDDDDDD...... what if you live in an area where you NEED 4x4????? Going to tell a barrel racer pulling a big LQ in Montana in the winter to " Enjoy" 22MPG as they are plumiting off the road cause they don't have 4x4?
If you would read it instead of making noises ...
You would see the Car Fax was to see where the truck has been living due
to the flooding vehicles that will turn up all over the nation ...
Where the truck was tagged is in the Car Fax and loan info too ... it takes
only a few minutes to figure out how many owners it has had ...
Your automatic takes all the power away from the engine when compared
to a 6 spd manual .... and auto's will not withstand the torque of a diesel
engine and are unfixable ... trucks power is totally controlled by your
torque converter in the automatic transmission ...
4x4's do not have the pulling power or the load capacity of a standard 4x2 ..
and is just an awkard fit for pulling anything ...
If you are going to fall off a mountain in bad weather ... my advice is to
move or stay at home ... nothing is worth risking your life or your horses
lives ....
If an engine blows up ... the odometer is reset to zero miles and you can use
any dealer inputs to verify the mileage on the truck is probably true or false ..
This was meant to help this young lady make some decisions ... and not to create
any drama laden posts ...
My brand new dodge 3500 (4x4) has a towing capacity and MORE horse power than the standard transmission option. In dodges, the engine is DERATED in G56( 6 speed) trucks.. Just sayin to help her make an informed decision. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Flit is correct, it's also correct that contrary to the wise words of the resident expert(not really) 4x4 will have a higher rated GVWR than a 4x2
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| 1DSoon - 2017-11-01 2:24 PM
Flit is correct, it's also correct that contrary to the wise words of the resident expert(not really) 4x4 will have a higher rated GVWR than a 4x2
Thank you !!! My AISIN auto trans in my truck can hold more. Power than the stick option. My truck is rated to two more weight for a 1 Ton than any other brand and configuration in a 1 ton. 31,500 pounds. |
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| barrelbasher - 2017-10-31 9:50 AM Good luck finding a good one at that price point that doesn’t have over 100k miles on it. I bought mine with 33,000 miles on it for $27k. They are out there. :)
Edited by brlraceaddict 2017-11-01 5:39 PM
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| There are plenty of nice, used trucks out there. Just take your time and try to find the one that's truly been maintained and taken care of. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Ford diesel one ton will do everything and then some. Stay away from 2003-2006 . 6.0. 7.3 don't like to start in the winter even if they are plugged in.the 6.7 seems to be a peach. If you drive long distance,the Ford is close to sitting in a recliner. Dodge is like sitting on a park bench and Chevy you spend more time under the hood than on the road. Diesels are designed for long distant driving so you need something for short distant driving like shopping.they need a few minutes to warm in the morning before flying down the road they need their "coffee" too. Keep up on maintainance pronto. |
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Location: Florida | GMC diesel with cummins and duramax. Optional 4 wheel drive is a must in sandy Florida. Not the greatest in the mileage dept but can pull a house down the road and be just fine. |
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| Vickie - 2017-11-02 10:47 AM
GMC diesel with cummins and duramax. Optional 4 wheel drive is a must in sandy Florida. Not the greatest in the mileage dept but can pull a house down the road and be just fine.
Can you please Explain to me GMC diesel with cummins and Duramax?? You have a GMC with a cummins in it? |
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Location: in the ozone | if nothing in your area, you can watch autotrader & carguru - if nothing else, it gives you an idea what is out there, what the prices are and where the good deals are. I found my truck on there & it ended up only being about 150 miles away.
Another thing I think is a good idea these days if you are buying from a dealership and no way to know truck's history or how it's been maintained - is get the extended warranty. If you end up with injector issues, or a turbo, etc, it will pay for itself quickly. |
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Location: NE TX | Playing stupid here, but on the Chevrolet website it shows the 2500 6.6 diesel to have an 18,100 pound tow capacity for a gooseneck. Wouldn’t you be able to do a three horse with a small living quarters (under 8-9ft with bed, toilet, shower, sink) on a 2500?
Mostly asking for myself because I do plan on getting a bigger truck and trailer in a few years after I get some bills paid down.
Edited by Flamin10 2017-11-04 1:35 PM
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Location: Kansas | Flamin10 - 2017-11-03 6:08 PM Playing stupid here, but on the Chevrolet website it shows the 2500 6.6 diesel to have an 18,100 pound tow capacity for a gooseneck. Wouldn’t you be able to do a three horse with a small living quarters (under 8-9ft with bed, toilet, shower, sink) on a 2500? Mostly asking for myself because I do plan on getting a bigger truck and trailer in a few years after I get some bills paid down.
I would sure hope so since my boyfriend just bought an 08 Chevy 2500 (not sure which exact engine but I assume the 6.6) and he plans on pulling his 3-horse LQ with the things you mentioned (Toilet, shower, sink) with it.
We took my 3 horse stock combo to rodeo finals with the new truck over the weekend and it didn't seem to know the trailer and 2 horses were even back there. It rides nice too, and parking wasn't a total nightmare even though I'm used to my 1/2 ton Dodge that's a lot smaller. |
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| Am I crazy to buy a 3 horse Platinum w/11ft Outlaw LQ (GVWR 15.6k#) that I plan to pull with my '05 Dodge 2500HD short box 5.9 Cummins w/Auto trans?
After some research, I plan to make some modifications to my truck such as, SuperSprings, Extender Coupler, Transmission temp gauge and cooling pan, and bulk up the brakes (not sure which direction to go yet). I also know that I'll have to let go of my lead-foot ways and not haul the trailer fully loaded.
I know others that do it but I always wanted a smaller LQ but came across this trailer and it is such good deal that it is hard to pass up. Obviously, it won't be a good deal if it blows up my truck. |
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| wishingforsun - 2017-11-07 1:14 PM
Am I crazy to buy a 3 horse Platinum w/11ft Outlaw LQ (GVWR 15.6k#) that I plan to pull with my '05 Dodge 2500HD short box 5.9 Cummins w/Auto trans?
After some research, I plan to make some modifications to my truck such as, SuperSprings, Extender Coupler, Transmission temp gauge and cooling pan, and bulk up the brakes (not sure which direction to go yet). I also know that I'll have to let go of my lead-foot ways and not haul the trailer fully loaded.
I know others that do it but I always wanted a smaller LQ but came across this trailer and it is such good deal that it is hard to pass up. Obviously, it won't be a good deal if it blows up my truck.
Its not if your truck can pull it, but can it STOP it??? That is a pretty sizeable load for a 3/4 ton. No " Beefed up" brakes will be any better at stopping. With a short bed ( Extended coupler or not) you are not going to have much stability over the rear axle. Also, the tongue weight of that trailer is going to squat your truck something fierce. With loaded horses and water etc you are going to be well over 20k pounds with a big tongue weight. You had better have some 14 ply tires on the truck to. You have a blow out with that kind of weight behind you and it can go from bad to worse real fast. JMHO. |
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| BHUSA Quote "4x4's do not have the pulling power or the load capacity of a standard 4x2 ..
and is just an awkard fit for pulling anything ... "
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Some people love the short bed, but you have more stability in a long bed and you can fit 2 large round bales in the bed where as short barely fits 1/2 a round and half as many small bales leaving you to make twice as many trips,just remember gas prices are sky rocketing. If you ever need lumber or dry wall a long bed is king. |
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| SO....I found a truck, and I would be getting a STEAL of a deal on it...but it's not exactly what I was looking for. So if I could get more opinions, that would be greatly appreciated! I found a 2007 Chevy 1 ton GAS engine with just over 100k miles. What do you think? I was really wanting a diesel, but this truck is priced too good to overlook. Thank you! |
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| Katielovestbs - 2017-11-29 8:47 AM SO....I found a truck, and I would be getting a STEAL of a deal on it...but it's not exactly what I was looking for. So if I could get more opinions, that would be greatly appreciated! I found a 2007 Chevy 1 ton GAS engine with just over 100k miles. What do you think? I was really wanting a diesel, but this truck is priced too good to overlook. Thank you!
In theory diesel engine have a lot longer life than a gas engine. I would be VERY cautious about a gas engine pickup with over 100k miles on it. |
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Location: nj | One word of caution on the newer dodges - if they come with the Firestone transforce AT tires the tires have no thread warantee and they wear out unevenly very early. Most tires come with a 50k at least wear warantee - these come with none and they wear out before 30k miles. One way they sell the trucks a little cheaper new then ford etc I guess. Just spent like 3 days arguing wiht Dealer, Firestone and Chrysler, so spending alot of money on new tires way to soon. Needless to say the new tires I bought are not firestone! |
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Location: North Dakota | brlraceaddict - 2017-11-29 10:53 AM Katielovestbs - 2017-11-29 8:47 AM SO....I found a truck, and I would be getting a STEAL of a deal on it...but it's not exactly what I was looking for. So if I could get more opinions, that would be greatly appreciated! I found a 2007 Chevy 1 ton GAS engine with just over 100k miles. What do you think? I was really wanting a diesel, but this truck is priced too good to overlook. Thank you! In theory diesel engine have a lot longer life than a gas engine. I would be VERY cautious about a gas engine pickup with over 100k miles on it.
My first truck was a gas, Ford F-150, with 110,000 miles on it. the guy we purchased it from took very good care of it and the miles were all highway miles. We absolutely loved that truck and it only required the usual maintenance. We sold it with about 150,000 miles because I upgraded trailers and needed to upgrade the truck, but that truck was still as solid as the day we purchased it. |
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| Thank you! I currently have an F150 gas that I LOVE. But I am needing an upgrade from that, because the towing capacity is not enough anymore. Bombproof trucks though! Just wanting to know if an 07 1 ton GAS will be enough of an upgrade? And how they tow and hold up compared to a diesel? |
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