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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2018-01-23 6:29 AM
Subject: RE: Mare close to foaling question... UPDATE


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She’s about the same. Her bag is a lot more full tonight. Other than that I didn’t visibly see any change. I let her out by her self this afternoon to graze for a bit and watched her the whole time. She never once laid down or acted uncomfortable.

Just FYI, I had a maiden mare do something similar, on her due date she went off feed, kept to herself, rolled a lot, nosed at her belly, and almost a month-a month!!! -later she foaled. :-/ Hope everything goes smooth for your girl!
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TessBelle
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2018-01-23 9:48 AM
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veintiocho - 2018-01-23 6:29 AM

TessBelle - 2018-01-22 11:47 PM

Chandler's Mom - 2018-01-22 8:59 PM

Please keep us updated

She’s about the same. Her bag is a lot more full tonight. Other than that I didn’t visibly see any change. I let her out by her self this afternoon to graze for a bit and watched her the whole time. She never once laid down or acted uncomfortable.

Just FYI, I had a maiden mare do something similar, on her due date she went off feed, kept to herself, rolled a lot, nosed at her belly, and almost a month-a month!!! -later she foaled. :-/ Hope everything goes smooth for your girl!

The vet that saw her yesterday raises pleasure and halter horses also. She said she’s seen this last anywhere from a few hours to a month. My mates get that been taking care of her was out of town doing relief work for another vet. He called and check on her yesterday and he’s concerned that she hasn’t had it yet. So idk what to do. The vet that saw her is an older lady and my mares vet is fresh out of vet school. So I’m not sure what to do.
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Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2018-01-23 9:58 AM
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Chandler's Mom - 2018-01-22 8:59 PM Please keep us updated
She’s about the same. Her bag is a lot more full tonight. Other than that I didn’t visibly see any change. I let her out by her self this afternoon to graze for a bit and watched her the whole time. She never once laid down or acted uncomfortable.
Just FYI, I had a maiden mare do something similar, on her due date she went off feed, kept to herself, rolled a lot, nosed at her belly, and almost a month-a month!!! -later she foaled. :-/ Hope everything goes smooth for your girl!
The vet that saw her yesterday raises pleasure and halter horses also. She said she’s seen this last anywhere from a few hours to a month. My mates get that been taking care of her was out of town doing relief work for another vet. He called and check on her yesterday and he’s concerned that she hasn’t had it yet. So idk what to do. The vet that saw her is an older lady and my mares vet is fresh out of vet school. So I’m not sure what to do.



My first repro vet was part of the original team for Equine Reproductive Clinic, a very highly rated repro clinic here in VA.

My first foaling experience, second for this mare, the mare went to 365 days before Meredith would consider it late.  Horses gestation is a 330-370 day range.  It is not like humans where 2 weeks early or late can be an issue.  

If your mare isn't ready means the foal isn't ready.  We semi-induced at 368 on that first mare and the foal was born peri-mature.  VERY small (under 24 inches, or 6 hands), floppy ears, almost no mane or tail hair, and still had curly hair on his body.  Only 24/7 care kept him going in the first 3 days.

What is the last breeding date for your mare?  There are plenty of foaling calculators out there that will nail the 340-342 date for you.  The first date anything should be a big worry would be 20 days past the 342 date.  
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TessBelle
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2018-01-23 10:45 AM
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lonely va barrelxr - 2018-01-23 9:58 AM

TessBelle - 2018-01-23 10:48 AM
veintiocho - 2018-01-23 6:29 AM
TessBelle - 2018-01-22 11:47 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-01-22 8:59 PM Please keep us updated
She’s about the same. Her bag is a lot more full tonight. Other than that I didn’t visibly see any change. I let her out by her self this afternoon to graze for a bit and watched her the whole time. She never once laid down or acted uncomfortable.
Just FYI, I had a maiden mare do something similar, on her due date she went off feed, kept to herself, rolled a lot, nosed at her belly, and almost a month-a month!!! -later she foaled. :-/ Hope everything goes smooth for your girl!
The vet that saw her yesterday raises pleasure and halter horses also. She said she’s seen this last anywhere from a few hours to a month. My mates get that been taking care of her was out of town doing relief work for another vet. He called and check on her yesterday and he’s concerned that she hasn’t had it yet. So idk what to do. The vet that saw her is an older lady and my mares vet is fresh out of vet school. So I’m not sure what to do.



My first repro vet was part of the original team for Equine Reproductive Clinic, a very highly rated repro clinic here in VA.

My first foaling experience, second for this mare, the mare went to 365 days before Meredith would consider it late.  Horses gestation is a 330-370 day range.  It is not like humans where 2 weeks early or late can be an issue.  

If your mare isn't ready means the foal isn't ready.  We semi-induced at 368 on that first mare and the foal was born peri-mature.  VERY small (under 24 inches, or 6 hands), floppy ears, almost no mane or tail hair, and still had curly hair on his body.  Only 24/7 care kept him going in the first 3 days.

What is the last breeding date for your mare?  There are plenty of foaling calculators out there that will nail the 340-342 date for you.  The first date anything should be a big worry would be 20 days past the 342 date.  

Last breeding date was March 5th
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total performance
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Posted 2018-01-23 1:14 PM
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According to the Foal Calculator she should be due Feb 10th  
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TessBelle
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2018-01-23 1:32 PM
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total performance - 2018-01-23 1:14 PM

According to the Foal Calculator she should be due Feb 10th  

And I’m sure out of pure inconvenience that’s the day she’ll choose to have it. And probably about 3:00 in the afternoon. Febuary 10th is the day of my wedding.
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2018-01-23 1:51 PM
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According to the Foal Calculator she should be due Feb 10th  

And I’m sure out of pure inconvenience that’s the day she’ll choose to have it. And probably about 3:00 in the afternoon. Febuary 10th is the day of my wedding.

Well there you go! Looks like you’ll just have to skip out on the wedding. Priorities!!
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TessBelle
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2018-01-23 2:00 PM
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TessBelle - 2018-01-23 1:32 PM

total performance - 2018-01-23 1:14 PM

According to the Foal Calculator she should be due Feb 10th  

And I’m sure out of pure inconvenience that’s the day she’ll choose to have it. And probably about 3:00 in the afternoon. Febuary 10th is the day of my wedding.

Well there you go! Looks like you’ll just have to skip out on the wedding. Priorities!!

Don’t tempt me! I’m legit over wedding planning. What was I thinking?!?!?!?
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2018-01-23 9:38 PM
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TessBelle - 2018-01-23 2:00 PM

veintiocho - 2018-01-23 1:51 PM

TessBelle - 2018-01-23 1:32 PM

total performance - 2018-01-23 1:14 PM

According to the Foal Calculator she should be due Feb 10th  

And I’m sure out of pure inconvenience that’s the day she’ll choose to have it. And probably about 3:00 in the afternoon. Febuary 10th is the day of my wedding.

Well there you go! Looks like you’ll just have to skip out on the wedding. Priorities!!

Don’t tempt me! I’m legit over wedding planning. What was I thinking?!?!?!?

Maybe just chance your venue to the barn?!!!!
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2018-01-24 1:07 AM
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TessBelle - 2018-01-22 11:47 PM

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She’s about the same. Her bag is a lot more full tonight. Other than that I didn’t visibly see any change. I let her out by her self this afternoon to graze for a bit and watched her the whole time. She never once laid down or acted uncomfortable.


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Watching for waxing or testing milk is a boring job and can be false ...

Watch the vertical size of her vulva as it gets longer and relaxed the
closer to birthing she gets.

If you see rose colored water droplets ... my mares will usually foal
within 24 hours or if I go to get a sandwich ... lol
It is a sign the water/bag has broken.

My lifetime years of experience with maiden mares is they are "11 month" mares ..
plus/minus one week .... from now till February 12th ..
A pregnant mare is like waiting on a pot of water to boil ...
turn your back or blink an eye ... walla there is a new baby in the stall..

If she is stalled.. turn her out by herself as much as you can ...
the walking and rolling will move baby into position since it will be
bounced around.

A few things I do right now ... 7-10 days from my guesstimated birthing time
I worm the mare with Ivermectin.... to clean out worm eggs .. since
Mother Nature orders the foal to eat some of her poop within 24
hours to start the babies good gut bacteria ... this keeps them from
getting a tummy full of worm eggs .. and not need worming until
weaning at 6 months old.
Then use the round worm wormer with the P word meds on the foal.

TIPS .. If you are present at birthing do not mess with the mare unless
her rear end is lying against a stall wall.
As baby comes out .. stay out of the stall and view babies head and nostrils
to make sure they are free of the sack. It is common for mare and foal
to lay or sit for 30 minutes prior to trying to find her legs. This gives time
for the extra blood in the sack to drain into the foal and make it stronger
and healthier.

The foals navel cord has a weak spot in it about 3 inches from its belly ..
this will break when foal and/or mare stands up.

DO NOT pull on the afterbirth hanging out of the mare ... let the weight of
it and her after birth contractions move it out of her uterus by its self ....
if you try to assist, it is easy to break it off inside her then you are in
real trouble to remove the retained portion.

Ask your vet for some real iodine 6-7% and put it in a small spray bottle ..
use gloves to keep your hands from getting stained ... spray foals naval
cord thoroughly from both sides. This strong iodine is a great antiseptic
and is strong enough to cauterize the rough edges and a small distance
inside the cord. This seals the cord shut so bacteria cannot enter.
Do it again 24 hours later as a safety precaution.

Have a feed sack handy to put the afterbirth in and remove from stall.

Leave the baby alone when it is trying to stand and let it look for a titty
by itself for 30-45 minutes before assisting. At this time mare will also
be nosing and bonding with the baby. Mares have the instinct to spread
a leg backward and nose her baby into nursing position without any help.

Stay out of the stall ... baby will want to bond with you and ignore the mare
where her dinner is ... lol

Assisting or if mare is not accepting baby within 45 minutes..
Place mares right side against a stall wall and nose in a corner so she
can't move around. ... then position baby into sucking position ...
if you get milk on your glove/hand .. let baby suck a finger and get a taste ..
and wipe milk on the back of the baby so mare knows it belongs to her.
You may have to trick her from finger to a tit while sucking .... very difficult
to force babies nose to mares bag without it resisting and stopping any
sucking/nursing motions.

Just keep in mind horses have been having
babies in the dark out in big pastures and
baby has found the dinner table
with no difficulties ...

One other important item ... baby needs to suck to get some colostrum in
her tummy within 3 hours and 6 hours is too late ... the babies tummy
and intestines will make a protective mucus layer on walls to protect them
from stomach acid and colostrum antibodies cannot penetrate this mucus
type barrier ...

Ask your vet where/who has frozen colostrum and nipple bottle and for a phone
number if mare is not milking ... the sucking and udder nose bumping the foal does
turns the milk machine on in most mares ... lol

As you can see, birthing is a normal happening and if humans stay out of the
way ... things work out smoothly with no problems.

GOOD LUCK ..
the above is what works for me without any problems




Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2018-01-24 1:48 AM
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rodeodelux
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2018-01-24 8:58 AM
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My mare that was bred on March 5th, 2016 (breeder only sends 1 straw), delivered her previous 3 foals on day 352, so I was ready for a Feb 20th baby, oh NO this last foal was born on March 7th!!! A year and 2 days!!

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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2018-01-24 10:06 AM
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I check their vulva. Just like cattle it gets bigger. I try to leave mine in an environment that they are accustomed to, which means the pasture. I don't stand around and watch. As a matter of fact, I had a neighbor checking one mare while I was at school. I told him if it looked like she was foaling to go home and have a cup of coffee then come back. I leave the alone.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2018-01-25 12:29 PM
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yes it is with all species.right down to the last minute. sperms swim very very very fast. whoa like lightening.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2018-01-25 12:32 PM
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Oh and that is why mid wife's are not in a hurry to be at your side at you becon call.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2018-01-25 2:30 PM
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are you sure she is in labor? what makes you think so?
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2018-01-25 2:37 PM
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So was that update a false alarm? today is the 25th and no update of gender of said foal. so is she still in foal??
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2018-01-25 6:30 PM
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Look for the milk vein that goes between the teats, it will be very large right before she foals.  Other than that, don't bother watching, they will wait until you aren't. 
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TessBelle
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2018-01-25 9:58 PM
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cow pie - 2018-01-25 2:37 PM

So was that update a false alarm? today is the 25th and no update of gender of said foal. so is she still in foal??

It was. She was faking lol j/k. Vet said what we thought was labor was her just getting baby positioned and ready. I turn her out by her self at daylight and back in her “maternity ward” at night.
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2018-01-26 6:26 AM
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cow pie - 2018-01-25 1:32 PM Oh and that is why mid wife's are not in a hurry to be at your side at you becon call.

"beck and call" 



 
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2018-01-26 9:22 AM
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1DSoon - 2018-01-26 6:26 AM

cow pie - 2018-01-25 1:32 PM Oh and that is why mid wife's are not in a hurry to be at your side at you becon call.

"beck and call" 



 

I was thinking she meant a beacon like Batman has, but you know, for midwives

Edited by veintiocho 2018-01-26 9:23 AM
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