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| want2chase3 - 2018-02-11 7:41 PM
I own a paint horse... I adore him... I never knew so many people didn't like them until I purchased him! Once they realized he was a paint, they just kinda wrinkled their nose and said "oh, he's a paint" ..he looks white .. until he gets wet then you can see he's an actual paint. He's a jam up head horse and he's taking to the barrels pretty well, plus he makes me smile!
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Location: Windoming | I own a solid black gelding that a guy once asked me his breeding. He said, "And don't tell me he's a blankety blank paint!" I said, "He isn't, he's a Pinto!" lol His futurity year, they always put him down as a Paint, but he is a registered Pinto! Not a year goes by that someone doesn't try to buy him.
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| My 4yo. Solid paint.. took to the barresl in no time, very quick and super smart!!
https://youtu.be/7qOkD7rr2s0
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/flashin+sixes2
I couldn't upload pics, but she's really something to look at.
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Location: midwest mama | A number of great paint horses have qualified for the NFR.
Kim West, Suzzanne Faucett, Twila Haller, Joyce Jackson, Charmayne James........?just to name a few. So they can't be all bad! LOL
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| I'm currently in love with that bay paint that Macy Ford is riding. She always enters him as Tommy so I dunno his breeding. Shes a FL girl so I'm assuming Tommy De Great is in there somewhere, maybe not. He just keeps getting better with her tho. Looked awesome this weekend in Perry, GA placing 15th outta like what 1500 head? It was a salty race for sure. |
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| want2chase3 - that's as cool as all get out! I've seen some spots when they get wet but WOW! And he's a beauty wet or not! |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | They bought Hot Shot for $3.79 and a pack of double bubble.
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | It really is such a shame how the paints are looked down on. I've got a APHA sorrel dun paint and he's been the best horse in my barn. Hes such a looker with a puppy dog personality. He's my go-to to babysit, he knows barrels, loves trail riding. He has quite a nice pedigree to boot. He gets his wild moments, but nothing anyone couldnt handle. I've always loved paints, ill never understand why they are so discriminated against. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Bought a solid paint and realized very quickly he was more quirky than the rest.
When presented with a stressful situation he would lose his mind.
Afraid of cattle. Afraid of ropes. He ran a good set of barrels and poles. Was a fantastic flag horse and parade horse but anything "stressful" and he would rear straight up and fall backwards. He was very dangerous when stressed.
He was my only solid. Only had him a few years.
Paints are quirky. And sometimes it's safe quirks. Others not so safe. I think I would give another paint a chance but I for sure would walk into the deal knowing that I couldn't resell for much more than I buy them for. |
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| Griz - 2018-02-12 5:45 AM
want2chase3 - that's as cool as all get out! I've seen some spots when they get wet but WOW! And he's a beauty wet or not!
Thank you! He's my favorite. I got him from a friend of ours who's a horse trainer. He had sold us a different horse a while back and I just couldn't get with that horse, I tried for a year to click with him because he was a super nice gelding but just wasn't in the cards for us. I hauled that gelding back to our friend and told him I couldn't get with him, he let me ride "cash" (the paint) for about 2 weeks at his place, we roped everyday and it was just an instant connection with him. We all knew I wasn't leaving without him lol! So we traded horses. He still has that other gelding and that turned into his main mount. I enjoy cash, I can put my kids on him and he's a great babysitter. He does have his quirks here and there but I don't know a horse who doesn't! It's funny because if I never got him wet, either with a bath or a good sweat no one would think he's colored like that! Hes,definitely unique |
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Location: Jersey Girl | NJJ - 2018-02-11 1:06 PM I don't (and never have) care what color or breed the horse is ..... as long as it fits MY program.
Ditto.
I just bought a nice little grade paint mare (my first paint). I love how she rode when I tried her and she is exactly what I need. She's patterned and lots of fun to trail ride. |
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Location: mi | I think the stigma is still there but getting less and less by the year. It's the same with the App's. I believe it comes from back in the day when both breeds had many breeders focusing more on the color then the quality. I feel for the most part those days are behind the breeds and the majority of the breeders now are concentrating on quality and with that the stigma will start to go away. At least one can only hope. I come from the App world and know if no one asked any of the solids I ride or ride with would be mistaken for a QH. and probably most of them are at least 50% QH along with that. |
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| I have to disagree with so many of the opinions I here all the time on paints, pour additude, bad feet, cant see if they have blue eyes and on and on and on and on....
I love paints and it really does frustrate me the backwords thinking on them. Ive seen horses of every breed be way too hot, have pour feet, crappy additudes ext....
This guys feet were increadible, acatualy the best feet on the place TBH when I owned him, and his blue eyes had no issues coming in arenas at 2AM slack and finding barrels, he could see before I could and was on his own until first at least. Consistantly placing at ammy rodeos when I sold him, went on and kept winning with youth riders.
My young girl Sweetness is solid breed with quarter horse infunce but shes awesome, very smart, willing, kind old sole type way easier to be around than by pure AQHA very well trained mare who can be overly senstive, reactive ding bat some days.
I have always had at least 1 paint around I seek them out, If my new girl is going to be as good as I think she is (watching her play and run the way she carries and holds her self) my AQHA boodmares are going to her dad.
There are of course lines in everbreed that not everbody can get along with ... APHA is no diffrent but I really do love them. Everbody says color dosent matter, a good horse is a good horse ... until its one they just dont like 
Basicaly to answer your question I do not think there is a stigma with paints I KNOW there is... there is a market but it IS small, and even smaller with solid paints, they can be hard to sell, and I find that really sad.
Ive always woundred what happned way back when when they got such a bad reputation, I pretend it was just some cowboy theif that hates them because they are hard to steal haha, nobody notices a new sorrel in my front pasture ... but they will slow down to look at the marked paint LOL
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Location: MN | want2chase3 - 2018-02-11 7:41 PM I own a paint horse... I adore him... I never knew so many people didn't like them until I purchased him! Once they realized he was a paint, they just kinda wrinkled their nose and said "oh, he's a paint" ..he looks white .. until he gets wet then you can see he's an actual paint. He's a jam up head horse and he's taking to the barrels pretty well, plus he makes me smile! Same exact story with mine. Years ago, when I thought I wanted to sell my guy, a girl was looking for a high school rodeo horse and be competitive. My horse fit the bill to a tee until they found out he was a paint. Her dad said "absolutely not" and they never came to look at him therefore, I still have my heart horse. Love him to death and he will always be with me.
PS - your guy is gorgeous!!! 
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | 1DSoon - 2018-02-12 5:34 AM They bought Hot Shot for $3.79 and a pack of double bubble.
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| palgal - 2018-02-11 2:08 PM
I've always wanted a flashy paint...still do. With that said, I am not in the breeding or selling business. Usually anything I end up with stays with me. I get too attached to the darned things to sell them. Then, if I do sell I usually price too low becuase I'd rather make sure they go to a good home than just to try to make money off them. I'm a terrible horse business person. As to the answer to your question, yes I do think there is a stigma but I don't know why. To me, a horse is a horse is a horse. If it does what I need it or want it to do, I don't care about color or breeding. If I were looking at it for resale value, yes I'd have to consider breeding and color I suppose.
I will ditto this. I personally love paints and hope to own one some day. But I don't understand the stigma, I have heard the "goofy" description before but most of the paints I encounter are mostly QH bred so its ironic to me that they would have such weird traits from the limited paint lines in their background. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | della - 2018-02-12 8:43 AM I have to disagree with so many of the opinions I here all the time on paints, pour additude, bad feet, cant see if they have blue eyes and on and on and on and on....
I love paints and it really does frustrate me the backwords thinking on them. Ive seen horses of every breed be way too hot, have pour feet, crappy additudes ext....
This guys feet were increadible, acatualy the best feet on the place TBH when I owned him, and his blue eyes had no issues coming in arenas at 2AM slack and finding barrels, he could see before I could and was on his own until first at least. Consistantly placing at ammy rodeos when I sold him, went on and kept winning with youth riders.
My young girl Sweetness is solid breed with quarter horse infunce but shes awesome, very smart, willing, kind old sole type way easier to be around than by pure AQHA very well trained mare who can be overly senstive, reactive ding bat some days.
I have always had at least 1 paint around I seek them out, If my new girl is going to be as good as I think she is (watching her play and run the way she carries and holds her self ) my AQHA boodmares are going to her dad.
There are of course lines in everbreed that not everbody can get along with ... APHA is no diffrent but I really do love them. Everbody says color dosent matter, a good horse is a good horse ... until its one they just dont like
Basicaly to answer your question I do not think there is a stigma with paints I KNOW there is... there is a market but it IS small, and even smaller with solid paints, they can be hard to sell, and I find that really sad.
Ive always woundred what happned way back when when they got such a bad reputation, I pretend it was just some cowboy theif that hates them because they are hard to steal haha, nobody notices a new sorrel in my front pasture ... but they will slow down to look at the marked paint LOL
I agree that there are some that try and breed to better the paint horse. But the best example I can give is when black and white paints were popular. Anything that was black and white got bred and some of those were the most horrendous looking animals I had seen. Nothing positive about them other than color. They got a bad stigma because so many other things were over looked to get color. And now you have breeders that have them 7/8 QH and still can't sell them because if someone wanted a sorrel with a hind sock, they would get a QH and still be able to sell it. It is the same as any breed. There truly are stallions and mares that have the best of everything. In APHA that might mean a colored-homozygous mare/stud, that has a 10 disposition, conformation to die for and competed in it's particular event successfully. But since it is a colored breed, I believe it should have color. Buckskin registry...Appy registry etc. If it is a color registry the horses should have color IMO and it can be done via homozygous breeding. Not sure what to think of overos though since they can not be. Hmm food for thought.
Back to the reason they don't have the same value as a QH-they don't have the same speed on the track. As SKM stated same day time trials are night and day. Your best APHA might outrun the 10th AQHA. In cutting, the money as a competitor and breeder is in AQHA bloodlines. Same with the show events. Do APHA horses even have to qualify for the World Show or can anyone enter? I know Appy's don't have enough shows/entries nation wide so with that breed assoc anyone can go to the World Show. There is no elite of the elite. |
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| I'm not one to stereotype breeds...BUT...I've owned three paints, and I have not like any of them =/ One was just plain mean, one was a bronc...and the other was very unpredictable. One moment she was a dead head, the next she was out of the world crazy. Purely based on my experience, I just can't see myself owning another one. But all horses are individuals, I know there are probably good ones out there! |
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Location: East Texas | Since so many of you guys don't like them, send your 1D horses that you are getting rid of cheap my way. I would add one in a heart beat to go with the one we already have. He has been an awesome horse. He is 18 and we started him on poles this past year....he had a 20 sec pole run this weekend. So yeah, we will take those crappy old paint buckets.
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| Lets not forget that bad little sucker Samantha Lyne rode. Jimmy Choo. Hes owned by a young lady not far from me and he is still tough even with only one eye! Colby Lovell owned a nice paint that was roped on at the NFR several times. Brad Culpepper's yellow and white paint is another of my favorites. He was won a truck load heeling on him at every major rodeo and the NFR. I love that horse! My husband had a lot of success on a grade paint mare heeling. We still see her at the ammy rodeos. Shes probably 18 now and going strong.
We are always on the lookout for a special prospect that has eye catching color/good breeding. We picked up this little fella from Colby not long ago. He is bred similar to his other paint that did so well. I believe hes by a Smart Little Lena son out of a Delta Flyer mare (waiting on his papers to come back). Hes 18 MO. Has a fanastic mind. So far so good.
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